Ford Focus Zetec engine - ThePilgrim
What is a 'Zetec' engine and how does it differ from a 'bog-standard' Focus engine? I'm after a 1.8 and everyone says get a Zetec.
Ford Focus Zetec engine - mfarrow
All Focus 16v engines are Zetec unless it's newish in which case it will be a Duratec. The Duratec superceded the Zetec.

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Ford Focus Zetec engine - bimmer-driver
As mfarrow says- all petrol focus' engines are zetec. They also called a trim level zetec (the sportier one IIRC) though so that may be what people are referring to.
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Stuartli
IIRC they are a development of the original 1.25 and 1.4 Zetec engines first used in the Fiesta from 1995 and developed in conjunction with Yamaha.

Zetec can also refer to the sporting suspension versions of the Ford model ranges.


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Ford Focus Zetec engine - Dynamic Dave
What is a 'Zetec' engine


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Ford Focus Zetec engine - trymybest

The term zetec was first used when the mondeo came out in 1993.
Since then it has been used to describe the 16v engine and various trim levels in the ford range.
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Dynamic Dave
The term zetec was first used when the mondeo came out in 1993.


According to the link I posted above, the first Zetec engine appeared in 1992, powering the fourth generation of the European Ford Escort and Orion.

ps, this thread will move across to discussion shortly.
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Blue {P}
All Focus bar the 1.4 use Zetec engines IIRC.

What people are saying is go for a Zetec trim level, and I agree.

It outclasses the LX and CL versions in every way, it drives better, looks better and has more comfortable seats.

The only one that betters a Zetec is the Focus Ghia, now that is a lovely car if you get something 51 plate or newer.

Blue
Ford Focus Zetec engine - MichaelR
Bear with me a second...

Zetec.

Zetec is, like poeple said, a name of a family of engines Ford produced between 1992 and very recently. All 4 cylinder petrol Mk1 and Mk2 Mondeos, and 1.6/1.8/2.0 petrol Focus used Zetec engines. Thats that - or at least it would have been, had Ford not decided to do the following...

Around 96/97 Ford decided that actually, Zetec was quite a cool name. Perhaps even as cool as super cool names like 'Sport'. So, they decided they could actually call some trim levels in their car 'Zetec' and garnish them with alloys, a bit of fake alumium trim, perhaps some nicer seats, sometimes lower sports suspension that sort of thing. The engine itself was no different to that in non 'Zetec' cars - a Focus Zetec and Focus Ghia have identical engines, my Mondeo Ghia X has a Zetec engine as well.

The Zetec trim level was born. It was originally restricted to cars with Zetec engines but Ford soon gave up with that and now plaster it on everything - you can buy Mondeo Zetec's, for example, with Duratec engines, and TDCi diesel engines!

As far as the Focus goes Zetec is the most popular trim level. You get alloys, some silver sportyness inside, some nicer seats and 15mm lower suspension. Contrary to what Blue said Zetec is NOT better than an LX in every way - up until fairly recently Focus Zetec did not have standard air conditioning or heated front screen whereas LX had both. You had to specify the climate pack to get these on a Focus Zetec.

So, get a Zetec, with the climate pack. Or get a Ghia.
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Blue {P}
Sorry, you're quite right, but then I wouldn't be likely too buy a Focus Zetec without climate pack nor would I consider buying a Focus LX either. What I should have said is "a Focus Zetec with optional climate pack is better than an LX in every way."

Pilgrim - If you do consider an LX, then watch out 'cos the pre 2001 LX models did not have standard quickclear screen, nor did they have the alloys as fitted to the later ones. So I'm with your frinds on this one, if buying pre 2001 then Zetec or maybe Ghia really is the only way to go (although pre 2001 Ghia wasn't that great either).

Blue
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Adam {P}
Around the tranisitional face between the pre facelift and the post facelift, it seems to be a bit patchy what you actually get spec wise.

However, Blue is right in as much that, if you find a decent Zetec you'd be happy. I think you got traction, ABS, heated seats etc... even on some pre facelift models.

I've got a pre facelift Ghia and whilst I love the car, it shouldn't have been called a Ghia. It has the nice cream interior and fake wood but a Zetec outclasses it equipment wise. No heated seats, no rear electric windows, no traction control, no rear discs, no computer.

Still a great car though...you know - I think I may go and wash it again :-)

Also, take a look on www.ffoc.co.uk. The forum's pretty good but I think the main site has a breakdown of all the models and what you get spec wise on each one.

(That's a legitimate link by the way)
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Ford Focus Zetec engine - Adam {P}
www.ffoc.co.uk/modules.php?name=Focus_Info

That should have everything you need.
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Ford Focus Zetec engine - Blue {P}
I'm struggling a bit to remember here, but I *think* traction control was standard on the Focus Zetec 2.0, and was a part of the optional "Reflex Pack" across the rest of the range, the pack got you ABS, Sidebags and traction control IIRC. Unfortunately this safety pack was priced around the same as Air Con, so when people bought the car new, they could generally afford to pick one option, guess which one they went for?

In the time I worked for Ford I only saw one pre 2001 Focus with the reflex pack! Just one!

Blue
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Adam {P}
I forgot about your calling Blue :-)

He's the man to speak to Pilgrim!
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Ford Focus Zetec engine - cheddar
IIRC the first Zetec engine was the 105ps 1.8 in the Orion and Escort joined shortly afterwards by 130ps 1.8, both were also fitted to the Fiesta XR2i and RS respectively.

When the Mondeo was launched in '93 the Zetec engine range became 1.6 90ps, 1.8 115ps and 2.0 130ps, later the Yamaha developed 1.25, 1.4, 1.6 and 1.7 engines fitted to the Puma, Fiesta and Focus all used the Zetec name. The 1.6 90ps was also fitted to the Escort replacing the CVH though the 2.0 in the RS2000 Escort was a completely different engine.

Of the engines in the '98 to '04 Focus the 1.4 and 1.6 were Yamaha developed and the 1.8 and 2.0 were based on the original '92 Zetec.

Someone will know the correct engine designations etc.
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Blue {P}
IIRC the 1.4 used to be designated simply 1.4 16V DOHC.

I thought that the 1.6 was the first proper Zetec engine, could be wrong about that though, we never got into that much detail about the dirty bits of the car in my job, equipment specs were used more when dealing with customers, most didn't care what engine it had.

Blue
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Roly93
IIRC the 1.4 used to be designated simply 1.4 16V DOHC.
I thought that the 1.6 was the first proper Zetec engine,
could be wrong about that though, we never got into that
much detail about the dirty bits of the car in my
job, equipment specs were used more when dealing with customers, most
didn't care what engine it had.
Blue

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Interestingly also, I understand that the 1.6 Zetec engine in the Focus was designed under contract from Ford by Yamaha. Not surprisingly it is a great smooth revvy and trouble-free unit.
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Blue {P}
Yep, it's a pretty good enigne, I would say it would be my engine of choice, if it's been run in correctly it should be just as quick as a 1.8 but gives better MPG.

I've driven plenty of 1.8 Focus and the only time they have noticeable difference powerwise over a 1.6 is at high speeds when they can pull slightly better in 5th gear. Off the mark and around town I reckon the 1.6 is a better engine. Just my personal opinion though.

Blue
Ford Focus Zetec engine - mr b quality
Focus was designed under contract from Ford by Yamaha. Not surprisingly
it is a great smooth revvy and trouble-free unit.


smooth revvy YES , trouble free NO
Ford Focus Zetec engine - carl233
The Zetec S unit (1.25, 1.4, and 1.6) is not as durable as the Zetec E (1.8, 2.0). Incidentally the Zetec E was also available in 1.6 guise in the Mondeo mk1 and mk2.

The Zetec S unit especially the 1.4 in the 90bhp state of tune can burn its valves at 70k even when correctly serviced and run on the correct 5w30 oil. The Zetec E unit is much more durable and I am aware of a 1.8 unit covering 320k without a rebuild and still running well.

The Zetec S is however much more free revving than the Zetec E. Despite this there is no contest with durability and reliability that the Zetec E if properly maintained and run on the correct oil is the one to have.
Ford Focus Zetec engine - mr b quality
The Zetec S unit especially the 1.4 in the 90bhp state
of tune can burn its valves at 70k even when correctly
serviced and run on the correct 5w30 oil.


This is the engine I have in my S reg Fiesta Ghia X - Great so that's something to look forward too in 15000 miles time !!!
Ford Focus Zetec engine - carl233
If the vehicle has not been driven that hard then you may be ok for some miles yet. The Zetec S is a great little engine and I personally like them but some owners have reported issues with burned valves.

It may be worth having an interim oil change halfway through the service schedule just to minimise any risk. There is no guarantee that any specific engine will burn its valves however I understand that early N and P reg models are slightly more prone to this problem.

Ford Focus Zetec engine - ThePilgrim
Thanks to all for your replies. I'll go for a 1.8 zetec post 51. Do you reckon I'll get a decent one for 7000 from my local dealership? Anything to watch for?
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Adam {P}
You'll get a lot newer than 51 for 7 grand.

Happy Hunting.


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Ford Focus Zetec engine - Imagos
Slight thread digress..trivia time..

IIRC the Zetec family of engines was originally called 'Zeta' prior and during it's launch in 1992 but Ford ran into copyright problems so the name 'Zetec' was adopted.

Not the only name problem though for Ford, the Focus was to be called 'Ikon' until name was leaked by a Ford employee..
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Adam {P}
Thank God for that. We'll reserve that for the Fiesta saloon thank you very much.

Now that is an unpopular car. I really don't know why.
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Ford Focus Zetec engine - Blue {P}
Now that is an unpopular car. I really don't know why.
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You are being sarcastic aren't you? :-)

Blue
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Adam {P}
Me? Noooooo ;-)
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Ford Focus Zetec engine - Imagos
Now that is an unpopular car. I really don't know why.


Hmmm.. Never sold here, For sale in India only where it sells quite well apparently in a very limited market for different types and models although growth potential is huge.
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Blue {P}
Yep, 7K will buy you something newer than 51 and in very good condition. Nothing in particular to watch out for on the post 51 plate models that I can think of off the top of my head. As usual, keep an eye out for manky interiors, stained alloys that haven't been cleaned, and car wash scrubbing on the paintwork from the motability customers. Having said that, if you can find a clean ex-motability car then they were normally excellent, fully maintained etc.

When I was selling them I had a general rule of thumb, if the seats were stained and the interior was a bit shabby the car was normally a dog, if the paint was polished and the seats clean, they were almost always mechanically sound and drove nicely. I know it's hardly scientific but it stood me in good stead, I think I only once brought in a scruffy looking car that turned out to actually drive well. The seats in FOcus seem particularly prone to marking if they are allowed to get damp, so it should be easy to spot one that hasn't been cared for.

With that sort of money you are into main dealer territory anyway so you shouldn't have too many issues, fingers crossed!

The only thing I would strongly recommend is trying the 1.6 version on the road, it is almost as powerful as the 1.8, there certainly isn't a big difference, but there is a lot more 1.6 versions to choose from and they give substantially better mpg, at least that's what I found when I drove them. If running costs aren't an issue and you find one you like, then certanly don't be put off the 1.8, it's still a good engine.

If you see any nice 2.0 models then it's only a little more on the insurance than the 1.8, they aren't a lot thirstier but they have bigger alloys and better equipment than the 1.8 so they may also be worth a look?

Blue
Ford Focus Zetec engine - cheddar
The 1.4 and 1.6 are crisper and feel very free reving though the 1.8 and 2.0 are, albeit marginally harsher, much more gutsy. I think you can notice a significant difference on the road between the 1.6 and 1.8, the former being more refined and the latter a lot more punchy in the mid range.

IMHO the 2.0 Ghia is the one to go for, really pretty quick to go with the standard Focus excellent road manners, added equipment including rear discs, traction control etc, Ghia trim brings 6 CD etc. Of course it will cost more.

Otherwise why not a TDCi 115, also has rear discs and great performance, cheaper to insure than 2.0 petrol.
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Imagos
IMHO the 2.0 Ghia is the one to go for,


Yes i'd agree with that but IMO the Ghia alloys are very disapointing, The Zetec alloys are much more stylish, I'd be inclined to change them to Zetec's if i could find some. (ebay?)
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Miller
Just out of interest, do any suffer you potential early cambelt failure? I noticed Ford upped the replacement time from 5yr/80k to 10yr/100k around 99 onwards, seems to bode well...
Ford Focus Zetec engine - cheddar
This has been discussed before, I would always change the cambelt at 5 years or 50k, better to be safe than sorry, I know others disagree.
Ford Focus Zetec engine - Adam {P}
I'm going to hit 70K soon. Probably going to think about changing it sometime next year.
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Ford Focus Zetec engine - Snakey
The local Renault dealer here has a 2004 04 1.6 Zetec in for £7600 which isn't too bad really!

Ford Focus Zetec engine - ThePilgrim
Thanks to all again for advice. I eventually went to the dealership here and got a Y/2001 1.8 5-dr Focus Zetec with 18 k on the clock, climate pack, 1 year's full RAC membership, FSH, 1 owner from new, 1 year's tax, full 48-month service + MOT, full valet, full tank of fuel - oh and a cup of coffee.
Cost: £6500. Got a pretty good deal on my part-X. Hope I did good. Comments appreciated. Cheers again.
Ford Focus Zetec engine - L'escargot
Ford say 100k and that is good enough for me. My (largish) Ford dealer says they have never known a 1.8 or 2.0 petrol Focus cambelt fail at less than 120k.
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Ford Focus Zetec engine - L'escargot
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>> IMHO the 2.0 Ghia is the one to go for,


And I agree as well.
........the Ghia alloys are
very disapointing, The Zetec alloys are much more stylish...


My 2003 Ghia alloys look quite nice to me. Mind you, I tend to go more for functional characteristics than for looks. And if anyone doesn't like the look of my alloys, then tough!

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