When we talk about relibaility in cars, we conclude that the Japaneese generally produce more reliable cars than German ones now.
Does this apply to televisions? Which tv's are the most reliable, samsung, panasonic, JVC or Sony, or are Grundig better. And what makes them better. Is it the electronics?
I am thinking that if there is a relationship between tv's and car reliability, ie their reliability is better if made in Japan, we can then make better conclusions possibly about the quality control of the countries manufacturing.
Any comments?
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Most Japanese electronics brands are now made in China/Taiwan, as are most German ones.
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If this isn't going to be motoring...................
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This is kind of motoring related. Cars use electronics, and these can be the cause of problems. Electronics, like tv's, can help possibly make a conclusion about the general fall or rise in reliability within manufactured products of a country.
Also, it does show if we can generalise from cars, to electronics in the household?
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Sorry me ole fruit, Grundig is not German. As far as I know Germany has only two major electronics companies, Bosch (with blaupunkt) and Siemens (with VDO dayton)
German consumer electronics dipped out to the japanese years ago.
Bosch make a healthy section of all car electronics used in europe, and as such are maybe responsible for the poor showing of european car reliability?
Still make damn fine consumer white goods tho, would never buy anything else.
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Golf mk4 electrics are apparently notorious for 'gremlins'
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Yes, but look where these German branded automotive items are made these days.
I recently bought a new BOSCH diesel injector, the old one said "BOSCH Germany" the new one was made in my very own "INDIA", India may be excellent for fine tea, s***es, mangoes and IT, it has no history of fine engineering!
I bought a new V-belt tensioner, the old one was made in France by Febi Bilstein, the new one was Febi Slovakia and I have to say it looked a rougher casting, the seams had burrs, and the pivot inserts/bearings looked inferior. If you look at parts on Japanese cars, mowers etc.., they are still all made in Japan. In European ones, even premium brands, the parts seem to be made all over the place by lots more companies.
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I'm not a motor mechanic, but I have repaired a fair amount of hi-fi electronics, having worked in the recording industry for some years ...
Good Japanese electronics (read, cost a bit) are well engineered. The problem comes with the 'consumer' grade stuff, nowadays made in China, of course. It's very reliable whilst it works, but as parts wear, repairing them is a nightmare - they are often designed NOT to be repaired, but replaced - and often that's the entire main circuit board - not cheap.
The flip side is good German/British audio engineering, where there is lots of scope for repairing and stripping down assemblies. On the other hand, German/British stuff often suffer from niggling re-curring faults like dry-joints, especially if they are at the lower-cost end of the market. The best engineered (electrically/mechanically) is up-market British/German stuff. such as Revox/Studer, and of course the many British pro-audio companies (providing they don't use nasty Japanese Alps pots.... )
As for car electrical systems, I do wonder about a correlation here - my Corolla was VERY reliable for its 60K warranty mileage - all the problems happened literally at about 70k onwards ...
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Those who post here are usually people of the world. So a question (which is not car related, but just a long shot). If I wanted to buy a 42 inch rear projection tv, 100hz, what would the best make or even model be for reliability and picture.
And (now this is car related), how would a connect up a normal home tv into my car so that I could watch it?
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Normal TV in car - buy an inverter; 150Watt versions available from Tesco at £25. Plug into cigar lighter, and there is a 13Amp socket on one end. Probably best used with LCD TV rather than plasma or conventional CRT. Actuallly, CRT in car could well be rather hazardous if something broke the screen.
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