I guess if you have bought a car thinking it's a prestige brand, and then it turns out there are seemingly more of them on the roads than Focii, then you will want to individualise it. The sensible thing to do is to buy something else in the first place, but I suppose that they ARE nice cars. There might well be a lot of BMW 3 series coupés about, but they're still nice..
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Watch the language people, and keep it motoring.
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Who took my language comment away? : ) Seriously, Mark, I was only asking a question... I didn't see any bad language, and I certainly didn't use any. And it is all about motoring, IMHO...
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No, you didn't use any bad language that I specifically recall. Yes it is mostly all about motoring.
However, I deleted a chunk of rubbish which did contain bad language and was not about Motoring. The annoying part, other than having to do it in the first place, is that it probably blew away some interesting stuff at the same time just because a couple of immature saddos cannot with without resorting to bad language.
Having deleted it, I then posted a request asking people to be careful and thoughtful.
If you were one of the offendors, then grow up or go away. If you were one of the unfortunates who lost an interesting note - sorry.
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In the 60's and early 70's I use to watch the saloon car racing at Ingliston , near Edinburgh.
The sight of (the recently late) Gerry Marshall in his Firenza, Bill Dryden ditto, Andy Barton in a Mini and husband and wife Graham and Jenny Birrell in their Escorts was soul stirring.
Even when they trickled out of the pits the noise and vibration was tremendous.
Had a great urge to fit bucket seats, little Mountney steering wheel and a noisy Peco exhaust.
I am sure things do not change for todays kids.
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I wasna fu but just had plenty.
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Oh dear. I tried Babelfish but no luck. 'street'/'yoof' to 'English' is not an option. I think I know "chav" but what do "minging" and "Coz its phat innit" mean? At this rate I'll soon be unable to understand English like wot she is spoke.
Someone has explained why they mod a Saxa or a Nova rather than a Jaguar XJS (insurance), but no-one has explained why they want to add mods to a car in order to make it look completely laughable. But then again, I never understood those weird baggy trousers with chains on, trainers that come with a mortgage, baseball caps etc.
Anyone seen my slippers?
Leif
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come, come gentlemen.
We have all in our earlier years done/eaten/drunk/driven/dated something that we would now consider to be utterly tasteless/stupid/irresponsible/antisocial and hopefully we are all all the better for it, or at least 'over it'
leif
www.peevish.co.uk/slang/
I don't know if you heard the newsquiz (R4) last week, but there was a clip of a Radio4 journalist sent out to ask the 'yoof of today' what they thought about the ban on 'hoodies'. Half of them, I couldn't tell what they were saying, and the other half, they weren't talking sense !
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I think you?re being too harsh on them.
It may have been Clarkson or Quentin Wilson who made the point that these lads spend huge chunks of small incomes modifying these cars and as such, wouldn?t dream of doing anything that might break them or involve the police. I mean the genuine enthusiast "modder" not the idiot boy racers.
I think it?s the motoring equivalent of stone-cladding your council house but I?m sure all the teenage girls are impressed and that?s what it?s all about surely.
You never know, today?s "modders" maybe tomorrow?s "backroomers"
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You never know, today?s "modders" maybe tomorrow?s "backroomers"
Indeed ! - nearly thirty years ago, I was fitting whiplash aerails, tinting the windows with paint-on tint, adding extra rear lights,... and look where it got me !
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>> You never know, today?s "modders" maybe tomorrow?s "backroomers" >> Indeed ! - nearly thirty years ago, I was fitting whiplash aerails, tinting the windows with paint-on tint, adding extra rear lights,... and look where it got me !
You're barred.
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No Do$h - Alfa-driving Backroom Moderator
mailto:moderators@honestjohn.co.uk
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That's unfair !
I had to scrape the blue window tint off with a razor blade because I made such a bad job of it, the rear lights filled with water every tiime it rained, and the aerial didn't make any difference because the two matches keeping the radio power leads in the 2-pin parking light socket kept falling out.
ban me for buying a Yugo 45, yes, but not this
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When I was 17 I was tinkering with Tamya radio-controlled models. I can assure you, that does not get you laid.
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whne I was 17 and had passed my test I could not afford a new or secondhand Mini - all the rage at the time as the cheapest was >£100 and would be very rusty. iirc I bought an Austin A30 and added a secondhand Peco big bore exhaust. Sounded great.
I can see why youth today mod cars as they want to stand out from the crowd and for some it gives great pleasure and some mechanical and body working skills.
As for Lexus lights, each to their own taste. After all BMW have dropped Bangle for the new 7 series - the last one made a modded Saxo look a work of art by comparison...:-)
madf
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when iwas 17 or there abouts it was illegal cb radios that were the in thing and honestly i had many (well a couple) encounters with the young ladies thanks to having a good rig and install complete with tx lights on the end of the aerial...cheers...keo.
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>>and look where it got me !<<
The best neighbourhood in town!
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Adam
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When i was at the age before i can drive, i used to buy 'Redline magazine' every month but when i started driving i stopped all that because modifying a car puts a strain on the insurance!!!!
Never thought about it since!
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Its not what you drive, its how you drive it! :-)
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When i was at the age before i can drive, i used to buy 'Redline magazine' every month
Was that for people who used to paint red lines down the side of their cars?
WTM
(ducks and exits fast)
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I used to read my cousin's magazines, was it a title called Street machine? Full of customised cars but these were real customised cars!
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I used to read my cousin's magazines, was it a title called Street machine? Full of customised cars but these were real customised cars!
I've seen these magazines! some people spend so much money on these cars that they cant afford to buy clothes for their girlfriends in the pictures. And some of the poor things look like they havnt had a decent fry up in years!
WTM
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The only one that was worth reading was Car and Car Conversion.
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I'm sure it was Car and Car Conversions. Isnt Car Conversion an old term for stealing it, or a slightly less serious offence?
Over here in New Zealand, we have no compulsory insurance, so the equivalent to chavs, here known as 'boy racers' usually have something Japanese, and there are no restrictions on horsepower. So Nissan Skylines, Subaru Imprezas, Mazda RX-7s, all usually with turbocharger and loud exhaust, wagon-wheel size alloy wheels and go-faster stickers are what keep the NZ Police Traffic Safety Service amused on Friday and Saturday nights.
The police here do have the right to impound cars for a number of offences, though, and exercise that right regularly. They can also ban cars outright (trailer it home) or slightly less seriously (drive it home) until they pass a safety check (MOT).
Our boy racers probably act much the same as your chavs, but with at least twice the horsepower, the consequences are much more often fatal. This accounts for our more draconian approach.
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No compulsory insurance? Thats crazy, what happens if somebody without insurance hits you? Tough luck?
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Why In town? To be seen. I can still recall the day, back in '73 when I looked to my right and saw the reflection of my youthfull expression, arm nochalantly leaning of the wound down window, and full profile of the gleaming white capri (black vynil roof and black coachlines) in the shop window as I sat at the lights.
It looked good, cool, the girls turned their heads I had arrived. Life was starting here.
And why doughnuts in carparks? I learned car control in carparks, how to hang out the rear end on dry, wet, ice and snow, what understeer, whats oversteer. Far better to try and kill yourself at low speed in the car park than high speed on the road.
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>>back in '73<<
I'm not even going to take the opportunity even though it's been handed to me on a plate ;-)
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Adam
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If the Saxo/106 are now cool - how long before it spreads to the Micra? The wife's 99 Micra is up for sale next month. Should I fit blue lights to attract the chavs?
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I'm all for individuality - even though the most I'd ever do is probably alloys but I saw a travesty before. On the way home, a Mark II Golf with silly light brows, side skirts and a spoiler and blue tinted tail lights!!!
Should be locked up.
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Adam
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I think it?s a real shame that hydraulic thing from the States hasn?t caught on over here. Rappers in Oldsmobiles cruising on three wheels or bouncing up and down at the lights. Fantastic! Wouldn?t you love to see a few Saxos doing that?
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Have you ever thought how high a saxo would leap in the air if you fitted the hydraulic rams from an olds' ?
Daily Star: Citroen Saxo spotted on the moon
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Adski, no doubt Espada will let me know if I am wrong but when the Miura was launched, the publicity shots I saw had the car fitted with eyelashes!
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>>How long before it spreads to the Micras? should I fit blue lights to attract the chavs?
Micras are popular already, in an ironic way. I saw a whole load of spoilered-up Micras at a Japanese "Run What You Brung" event last year.
www.micra.org.uk
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Thanks all for the most smiles per thread in months!
And special thanks to stevied for saving me the effort of typing everything i felt like saying...
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You all may be aware of this site, but if you want plenty of examples of really badly modified cars have a look at
www.barryboys.co.uk/mx/
Hope it's OK to post link - I don't think its too much of a rival to HJ - too painful on the eyes!!
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Intresting points !
Mind you I couldn't afford a car until I was 20.
But Since then I've always had mildly modded cars.
I mean yeah there are some awful cars out there and it seems the youth have more money than sense.
Personally I prefer to replace the exhaust, brakes etc with uprated once once the standard ones have given up always have done.
I think as you get older you realise what a waste of money it is and settle down.
The Internet has also played a huge part in modding - And most serious modders despise the max power maxazine and car culture.
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