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Obviously, not the greens, and I apologise if this is isn't a question we're allowed to ask (feel free to remove this if it isn't), but who does everyone think would be the best party for the motorist, solely on this single issue (let's try not to get caught up in other policy-related debate)?
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UKIP seemed to have a reasonable approach to the subject.
The others appear to be maintaing an embarrassed silence on what affects the majority of the population.
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Surely it has to be the Official Monster Raving Loony party? www.omrlp.com/
Some of their ideas are pure genius, make much more sense than t'other parties, e.g.
* Pram lanes will be created in all shopping centres.
* All cars will be converted to run on Venos to help stop congestion.
* Drivers will be allowed to drive over roundabouts when there?s nothing about. This will make driving through Milton Keynes much more fun.
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Thanks for the link NW, thoroughly enjoyed it. Some other gems...
4 wheel drive vehicles will only be allowed to drive off road, therefore stopping mothers picking up their children from school in them when they only live 100 yards down the road. They will also be wrapped in bubble wrap to make them safer.
Bright pupils will be provided with dimmer switches to prevent them distracting the rest of the class
We will replace the House of Lords with the House of Cards, to make it easier for the Government to deal with.
Due to the government?s policy of opening pubs 24 hours a day, a loony government for public safety will make the wearing of seat belts compulsory in all pubs, and pub tables will be fitted with airbags so you can fall over drunk without damaging your head (this does not offer protection from your wife attacking you with the rolling pin when you get home drunk).
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My guess is that if motorists only were allowed to vote in the general election the percentage vote for each party would be about the same, since the majority of voters these days are motorists.
Cheers, Sofa Spud
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But being a motorist doesn't mean they are without opinions on other, possibly more momentous aspects of civic life. Why, being a motorist, should I vote for a particular shade of motorist opinion? The loony tunes party AKA as Safe Speed, or the other end of the spectrum, the Ramblers, who are also mostly rather well-off motorists? What is so important about motoring that makes it a priority over other aspects of life?
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Even under Nanny State, it's still up to the individual to decide where his priorities lie.
I think this was intended as a light hearted thread, please let's not get bogged down in the minutae if whether the motion was sound or not...
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I'm disappointed. I thought from the thread title it was going to be another BR get-together.
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" the majority of voters these days are motorists."
It depends what you reckon as motorists! "Car users" I'd accept.
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>>It depends what you reckon as motorists! "Car users" I'd accept.
You accept or don't accept what you like; nonetheless "motorist" is the correct term and not reserved for some sort of snobbish, superior club.
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"You accept or don't accept what you like; nonetheless "motorist" is the correct term and not reserved for some sort of snobbish, superior club."
Distinguishing between those who actually enjoy motoring (or would if allowed, nowadays) in whatever sort of machinery they can afford, and those whose vehicles are kept to get about, or to impress other people, is not snobbish; rather, having regard to the latter purpose, the snobs are in the second lot.
Superiority I did not claim but seeing it has been conferred.....
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Distinguishing between those who actually enjoy motoring (or would if allowed, nowadays) in whatever sort of machinery they can afford, and those whose vehicles are kept to get about, or to impress other people, is not snobbish; rather, having regard to the latter purpose, the snobs are in the second lot. Superiority I did not claim but seeing it has been conferred.....
Well I knew what you meant and agree with the distinction if not the specific term.
:shuffles toward the coat stand:
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>>It depends what you reckon as motorists! "Car users" I'd accept.
What's the difference? I suppose 'car users' includes passengers.
True, there are 'motoring enthusiasts' and 'as long as it gets me from A to B' type drivers. But there are good and bad drivers among both categories, car abusers and neglectors among both categories.
Cheers, SS
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I don't think, for this purpose, the good & bad distinction makes a difference.
But I can see that the 'motoring enthusiasts' distinction might, since that group might be more influenced by motoring policy.
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I think that the loonies would definately get my vote, if they wanted to field a candidate where I live. Perhaps I should remedy the situation in time for the previous election. The (motoring)issues I would stand on would be:
1-In line with further integration with euroloonyland, I propose changing the nation to driving on the right. This is bound to cause some confusion, so the change over should be gradual.
2-Introduction of parking meters on the M25
3-Road fund license to be payable in goats.
4-Subsidised driving licences for all registered blind people.
5-Minimum of zero occupants in cars during rush hour.
6-Bus stops every 137cm
7-Paying to drive into central London. I realise someone else may have thought of this already, but a loony idea is a loony idea, and politicians have no qualms about pinching ideas.
Vote loony-you know it makes sense!
WTM
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"3-Road fund license to be payable in goats"
Shurely, Groats?
It would be refreshing if just one of them asked us what we'd like instead of always telling us what we're going to get.
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At the risk of being very dull, I reckon the main issue is congestion, and none of them are doing much in that respect. Labour reduced road building to record lows, and have now done a u-turn. The integrated transport policy was a miserable failure though to be fair to them it was mission impossible from the start. They and councils reduced house building to record levels, so the low paid can't afford to live near work, and have to travel. And they are proposing congestion charging to create a two tier system of those who can afford to pay and the rest. But maybe the most important problem is that in the modern world we move from job to job every few years, and have no choice but to travel long distances to survive. No party can change that fact.
So how about more housing, more roads, more consumption of local food (less lorries on roads).
I'm not convinced there's that much between the mainstream parties, though the Tories and probably the Lib-Dems (can't remember) are opposed to the current emphasis on speed cameras and speed bumps.
Suddenly Screaming Lord Sutch's vision seems all the more sensible ...
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Screaming Lord Sutch, sadly, is no longer with us though his party lives on.
Cheers, SS
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I would like to see more private circuits where drivers can take their cars to blow away the cobwebs. Then there should be less fuss about speed cameras and speed limits.
Cheers, SS
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I'd like to be able to ote local Traffic Engineers out of a job. One street (Furlong Road) in Stoke on Trent has - over the past 4 years - had at least 4 different sets of raod calming measures put in.
They are put in because the raod is used as a short cut tothe access road to the local Stoke By pass (A500) where the proper access roads have not been built (access roundabout has a deadend ).
I reckon the traffic engineers have spent £100,000s - and now there is a new housing estate being built using the road as only access and making things MUCH worse.
Fire the lot I say. Planning? nil. Forethought ? Nil.
Make ALL local officers (incl police) accountable.
As Government Ministers deny all accountability for anything, I'm not going to get very far!:-(
Rant over...
madf
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Madf, I've enjoyed watching the recent interesting occurences on the road leasing from the A500 to Festival park. Over the course of a fortnight they seemed to change their minds about what speed-limit they wanted to set several times (kept changing which contradictory set of signs they covered up with sacking)
That said, I think what they've finished with is far better than before. 40mph enforced with cameras is far better than the earlier unrealistic 30mph, with no enforcement at all, so you got numpties doing 50 down there.
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"3-Road fund license to be payable in goats" Shurely, Groats?
Nope, goats it is.
However, I'm currently considering accepting hamsters for motorcycle tax discs.
WTM
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