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Warning Triangle on Motorway - IanJohnson
Just received the fleet company'e travel in europe pack and it includes an AA Fleet Europe Driver's Guide. It includes the comment that you should "never use a warning triangle on UK motorways"!

I have always worked on the basis that the bang as the snoozing driver hits the triange might wake him up but is use of a warning triangle illegal on the motorway now?
Warning Triangle on Motorway - SjB {P}
The travel pack gives accurate advice, confirmed by the Highway Code.

www.highwaycode.gov.uk/24.htm#248

My assumption is that pedestrians are banned from motorways, and that's exactly what you would have to be to place a triangle behind your vehicle. In the process, you would be exposed to grave risk.
Warning Triangle on Motorway - SjB {P}
Posted too soon.

Wanted to add: Simply get all occupants out of the car through the passenger side, and walk well away from the motorway.

I recall a heated discussion at work once when a colleague said that 'all occupants' should exclude pets, even those on a lead. They should be left in the car. I agreed with him, but a dog loving colleague went in to orbit about cruelty.
Warning Triangle on Motorway - IanJohnson
Thanks for the aqnswer, must re-read the highways code.

If it is because pedestrians are banned how do you walk to the nearest emergency phone?

Ian
Warning Triangle on Motorway - SjB {P}
Thanks for the aqnswer, must re-read the highways code.
If it is because pedestrians are banned how do you walk
to the nearest emergency phone?
Ian


Not straight down the hard shoulder!

But anyway, I believe it's all about risk, and placing a triangle doesn't give enough benefit on a motorway to warrant taking it.
Warning Triangle on Motorway - SjB {P}
On the subject of emergency phones, I read last year about them potentially being phased out because of the cost to maintain and that most people carry cell phones now anyway.
Warning Triangle on Motorway - patently
a dog loving colleague went in to orbit about cruelty.


Better that than the dog escaping the lead and being sent into orbit itself.
Warning Triangle on Motorway - Cliff Pope
Aren't the circumstances in which a red triangle would be most useful likely to be precisely those where it is most dangerous to place it?
Is it safe to walk along a narrow fast single carriageway road with no pavement in order to place the triangle? What precisely are the circumstances in which using a triangle is considered to be safe?
Warning Triangle on Motorway - BazzaBear {P}
Aren't the circumstances in which a red triangle would be most
useful likely to be precisely those where it is most dangerous
to place it?
Is it safe to walk along a narrow fast single carriageway
road with no pavement in order to place the triangle? What
precisely are the circumstances in which using a triangle is considered
to be safe?


I think the point is more the different benefits of placing the triangle, rather than the risks.
On a normal road when you've broken down you are exactly where traffic would normally be travelling, hence the triangle to make them aware. On the motorway you're theoretically not in the route they'd be using anyway, so the triangle would just possibly alarm someone un-necessarily, and the benefit is low enough that the risk of placing it is deemed to great.
Warning Triangle on Motorway - Cliff Pope
I think the point is more the different benefits of placing
the triangle, rather than the risks.
On a normal road when you've broken down you are exactly
where traffic would normally be travelling, hence the triangle to make
them aware. On the motorway you're theoretically not in the route
they'd be using anyway, so the triangle would just possibly alarm
someone un-necessarily, and the benefit is low enough that the risk
of placing it is deemed to great.


Possibly. But the risk of walking back to place the triangle on a motorway is no greater than the risk of walking to the emergency phone (and taking the same diversion into the undergrowth to avoid walking along the actual hard shoulder)
The risk on a fast single carriageway is much greater, because you may well be forced to walk in the road directly in the path of oncoming traffic. Yet no one seems to be saying that you shouldn't use the triangle then either, despite the same or greater risk.
Also don't forget that the risk is borne by the walker with the triangle, but the benefit is mainly to the other driver who is warned against crashing into my (now empty) car. Do I want to take any risks just for someone else's benefit?
Warning Triangle on Motorway - patently
Possibly. But the risk of walking back to place the triangle
on a motorway ...


You could always give the triangle to the dog and send him instead.


;-)
Warning Triangle on Motorway - codefarm
>>>but a dog loving colleague went in to orbit about cruelty<<<

Just shows where pets are concerned common sense goes out the window.

Imagine trying to control some bounding hound while you wait 3 hours for the AA to turn up
Warning Triangle on Motorway - frostbite
"Just shows where pets are concerned common sense goes out the window."

Disagree, the point of leaving your vehicle is a personal safety issue - how many dog owners would want to leave their dog exposed to the danger they have escaped from?
Warning Triangle on Motorway - patently
how many dog owners would want to leave their dog exposed to
the danger they have escaped from?


None, surely. But people understand that they need to sit still on the verge. Dogs don't. Therefore, for the dog the lesser danger is in the vehicle.

So, put the question the other way round. How many owners would want to expose their dog to the danger of running into the traffic on a potentially busy motorway?

Not me*.

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*although I admit it's academic for me. Our dog gets travel sick, so the longest journey she does is to the kennel. :-(
Warning Triangle on Motorway - hillman
We all had to buy warning triangles when I was in Zambia, quite a profitable business it must have been for the supplier. I still have them here in the UK 25 years later.
Before the triangles it was the practice to walk back down the road a 100 yards or so and break branches off the nearest tree. A pile of green, leafy branches lying in the road alerted the following drivers just as well as any number of triangles.
Warning Triangle on Motorway - Altea Ego
"A pile of green, leafy branches lying in the road alerted the following drivers just as well as any number of triangles"


I tried that in December, but a pile of brown crunchy twigs did not seem to have the same impact.
Warning Triangle on Motorway - frostbite
So, put the question the other way round. How many
owners would want to expose their dog to the danger of
running into the traffic on a potentially busy motorway?

>>

I was assuming that they would be sure to be carrying a lead.
Warning Triangle on Motorway - Altea Ego
Dogs have leads and collars. Motorways have fence posts. dog+lead/collar+fancepost=safety.

However

The recovery service usually WILL NOT recover pets. so it has ot be left in the car to be recovered.
Warning Triangle on Motorway - hillman
>>I tried that in December, but a pile of brown crunchy twigs did not seem to have the same impact.

Renault Family, the leaves do not drop in Zambia, some turn bronze/gold, others stay green. Best climate in the world. It rains between November and March. From April to September it is dry and sunny, with the very occasional shower about August.
 

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