Unless council have given consent..It is an offence to park a wheel on the kerb/path..This aside.I think its done because so many get their door mirrors smashed by idiot drivers..Or get sideswiped on wings/door panels..But it is legal on some roads Like mine.And you have no choice.In your case probably the above reason
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Exactly the same thing's starting to happen here. Most of the time they do it because they're ignorant, lazy, stupid, arrogant or a combination thereof. I'm sure some feel their cars are more important than people but others may do it to avoid collision damage which costs them £££'s so they'd rather watch people in wheelchairs and those with pushchairs etc. walk in the road. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen cars with all 4 wheels blocking an entire pavement! I just wish people would be a bit more considerate but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for them to see the light!
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Shrinking middle-classes, burgeoning undercalsses high on welfare.
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Shrinking middle-classes, burgeoning undercalsses high on welfare.
Actually it's the other way around--that's why there are so many car-proud people about, parking on the pavement. I am never too careful pushing the pushchair past cars parked on the pavement and I know I've made a couple of unfortunate misjudgements, but I've been thinking for a while now of making up some stickers of about two by three inches in size saying: "You are a selfish idiot. Don't park on the pavement again. Idiot." This could be stuck on the nearside door mirror for maximum annoyance and a possible driving without due care rap if they don't remove it.
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Not come accross it being legal to park on pavements anywhere and would be interested to learn more especially from a Local Authority that gives concent (?).
It is a particularly anti social thing to do.
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PU, it's become quite common for our council to replace the grass verges with tarmac, hardened verges they call them, and then paint a white line to designate them as part of the highway so people can park half off the road. In other parts of the town they have dropped the kerbs along the full length of the street on both sides and again taken part of the pavement for parking. By slightly narrowing the pavements they are then able to allow parking both sides and remove parking restrictions from a large number of roads which were absolute parking hell. This of course only works where the verges exist or the pavements are fairly wide to start with but seems to be a fairly win-win situation as drvers now tend to park where they're supposed and not just create a space wherever.
As to the legal definition of whether this constitutes LA consent to park on the pavement I would guess that the marked area would be regarded as part of the highway and not part of the pavement. Certainly the local parking attendants issue tickets if people stray over the lines and hence reduce the width of the pavement, quite rightly.
May not be the best answer to the problem but it seems to work pretty well and at least shows the LA in a better light than the usual 'paint it yellow' brigade.
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Ah the pavement has always been part of the highway.
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PU. your council site will. or should tell you the roads in your area.That you are allowed to park partially/fully on the kerb/path.If it is anti social.Its more to do with keeping roads clear.emergency services able to get to destination.Apart from problems some have with it.In my area it works well.With (fingers crossed)I hope it stays that way with no accidents
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Near where I live, there is a housing estate with what were once very narrow cobbled roads and pavements, the residents all park completely blocking the pavement on one side, the road is then just wide enough for one car, the opposite pavement is always free. It works well, though I don't think I'd like parking there!
Where i live, you can park on the pavement, and still have room for another car to drive around you also on the pavemnet - very wide pavements. It's a trunk road.
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Not come accross it being legal to park on pavements anywhere and would be interested to learn more especially from a Local Authority that gives concent (?).
london and its boroughs:
"Footway Parking
Footway parking is not permitted across London unless the area is specifically exempted, and indicated by white bay markings and appropriate exemption signs. The footway-parking ban applies 24 hours a day, 7 days a week."
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Ah Londinium ! Outside PU's shepre of influence.
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>>All a part of our selfish eff you society that began somewhere in the Thatcher years.
Greed, selfishness and looking after No.1 were around long before Thatcher's era, I assure you.
Cheers, Sofa Spud
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Part of the problem is that modern estates seem to be built with such narrow roads, to cram as many houses in as possible I suppose. In the meantime cars have got fatter. My own estate is a case in point. Although everyone has a drive and a garage if you do have to leave a car outside for any reason there is not a lot of room to manouvre past.
If I do have to park on the road (SWMBO has barred me from car cleaning on the paved drive) I put two wheels up, but it is a wide pavement and I always make sure I leave enough room for a push chair to get by.
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Part of the problem is that modern estates seem to be built with such narrow roads, to cram as many houses in as possible I suppose.
how true that is.
some councils are insisting that only a single garage and one car parking space is allowed per house.
i heard last week of a brand new development of "prestige executive" 5 bedroom houses in the home counties where the builder is having difficulty selling any of the plots - because planners have restricted the drives and garages to cater for just 2 cars per house.
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"SWMBO has barred me from car cleaning on the paved drive"
This is typical of the modern attitude of 'I don't care who else I inconvenience as long as I look after me and mine'
I have a very expensive block paved driveway. the reason I paid for it to be block paved is so that I have somewhere to park, wash and clean the cars etc.
Surely, even in a quiet road you are at risk (door opening etc) and definitely inconveniencing others if you have to put 2 wheels on the kerb.
Maybe we need to adopt the Japanese strategy of not being allowed to own a car unless you have off road parking for it.
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I hope we don't adopt the Japanese strategy of not being allowed to own a car unless you have off road parking - that would rule pretty much 90% of the village where I live out of car ownership....
Its getting the balance right - sometimes I leave a wheel on the kerb if it is difficult getting in the space outside my house
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I hope we don't adopt the Japanese strategy of not being allowed to own a car unless you have off road parking - that would rule pretty much 90% of the village where I live out of car ownership.... Its getting the balance right - sometimes I leave a wheel on the kerb if it is difficult getting in the space outside my house
I would very much like to see the UK adopt the Japanese rules, at least in cities. The Japanese don't say you can't have a car only that it must be a less than a particular size and engine capacity if you don't have a space. Its the reason why they have wacky little cars like the Copen and Wagon R
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I remember an occasion in days of yore that British Gas was searching for a gas leak underneath a pavement near me. The British Gas employee told me that gas leaks under pavements were invariably caused by vehicles parking on the pavement. The foundations of pavements are not as substantial as those of roads, and subsidence leads to damage to public services. My apologies to Michael Caine, but I expect that not a lot of people know that.
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You're quite correct my snaily friend, a lot of people don't know that and to be honest neither did I.
However, I know that the surface of the pavement on the corner of the road outside my house has broken up as a result of vehicles bouncing on and off it.
I can only guess that some people can't judge the width of their cars properly so rather then risk kerbing their alloys they drive 2 wheels onto the kerb.
Yet another law that plod chooses not to bother enforcing.
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Yet another law that plod chooses not to bother enforcing.
When I was at my last abode the person opposite, who habitually parked on the pavement, WAS a policeman. He had a garage, and a drive long enough to park at least three cars! Selfish or what?
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L'escargo, not long ago I had to attend a vehicle breakdown in the local university grounds. Narrow roads and wide pavements so to reduce the obstruction risk I parked halfway on each. Soon pounced on by the campus parking warden who explained pretty much what you have and included the cost of cracked paving slabs etc. Much more effective than a ticket or chastisement. And I drove off the pavement VERY carefully - just in case !
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A while ago now I saw a young mother with toddler in pushchair. She was apologizing to a driver for knocking his car (gently) with the pushchair. The car was so far onto the pavement that she barely had room to pass. I have rarely observed such an absurd inversion of responsibility.
Not long ago I found (perhaps on this board) a report of a fire engine having churned up a whole row of front gardens, because the pavement was obstructed by cars that could have been on the drives. The fire officer had no sympathy and explained that he would have had no need to cross the gardens had the cars been on the drives.
Vehicles do indeed damage pavements (footways) and what lies beneath them. I reported one trucker to the local council when I actually saw the pavement sinking beneath the 30+ tonnes of his vehicle.
Crossing kerbs doesn't exactly do much good to a vehicle's suspension system either, so it's a pretty stupid thing to do routinely.
Yes, I'm a fully subscribed member of the Grumpy Old Men club. I'd feel uncomfortable about that if only I didn't know so many people, from all walks of life, who agree with me on this particular issue.
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Many households have too many cars and can't or won't park on their own property, eg next door to us 2 drivers in household but 3 vehicles, car in drive with for sale signs on it, big people carrier and van in street, junk in the garage.
Across the road, 2 drivers but 4 vehicles. However give them their due all 4 are parked off the road (or pavement).
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Re the houses getting smaller and cars getting bigger. Our house is nothing special but with the drive going down the side of it, we're able to fit 3 cars on it (4 at a push). However, my mate's Dad has just bought a super duper new huse with 5 bedrooms. Only has space for 2 cars though - side by side....well - a Clio completely takes up one side of the drive.
Our house was built in 1990 so we probably missed out (just) on the driveways getting smaller and smaller.
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