Tonight's traffic Cops - BobbyG
Survey time, do you think that the copper that was driving the Volvo on the Cat and Fiddle tonight

a. was really good at his job or
b. a smug policeman?

I am personally still trying to work out my own opinion! I dare say I know how I would feel if I was stopped by him!
Tonight's traffic Cops - frostbite
Erm, have I missed a day? I started watching it last night - until after a few minutes I discovered it was yet another BBC repeat masquerading under a new title.
Tonight's traffic Cops - BobbyG
Was on BBC1 Scotland tonight - maybe was on other channels at different times.
Tonight's traffic Cops - frostbite
Was on BBC1 Scotland tonight - maybe was on other channels
at different times.


Sorry Bobby, should have thought of that.
Tonight's traffic Cops - Thommo
Smug git and obviously looking 'concerned' for the cameras willing to bet a large some of money that he behaves even more insufferably when no cameras are there.
Tonight's traffic Cops - Rishab C
Yes, have to agree, a very unprffessional 'cop'.
Had he of stopped me, I would have given him a stern dressing down for chewing gum while speaking to me, having his hands in his pockets, and his general manner of addressing a member of the public. Did anyone see how he drove round the bends slouched in his seat, with one finger hooked on the steering wheel, arm resting on the door, other on the gear leaver, what an incompetant hypocrite. He also punished the "possibly/maybe" people worse than those who had lost control or crashed of the roads!
Tonight's traffic Cops - BobbyG
Rishab

But would you have given him a stern dressing down? I would suggest that maybe after a ticket was issued and you had nothing to lose, then yeah, maybe let rip. But up until that time I would suggest that the majority of us would let the copper say whatever he wanted if it meant that we would not get points?
Makes it all the more infuriating and yes, I agree with a previous post that he is probably a lot worse in the smugness dept when the cameras are not there.

Agreed, a youngster put his Saxo into a field with a bald tyre and gets a telling off, a biker goes over a double white and gets 3 points? Mmmm
Tonight's traffic Cops - Robin Reliant
Shove a camera on someone and they start acting. These "Real Life" documentary's are becoming one big yawn. The original Police Camera Action was interesting because it gave an insight into the work of traffic policing we hadn't seen before, but like the learning to drive documentary soaps they are just the same old formula over and over again.

For a real sickbag experience, try and catch Sherrif something or other on sat tv. The man who put the mug in smug.
Tonight's traffic Cops - Adam {P}
Never speak ill of Sherrif John Bunell (Ret.)

NEVER
--
Adam
Tonight's traffic Cops - Robin Reliant
Never speak ill of Sherrif John Bunell (Ret.)


Relative?
Tonight's traffic Cops - Citroënian {P}
Seconded. 27 years of law enforcement and a bomb-proof barnet combined with a wicked sense of humour make him really top quality entertainment.

From Sunday on Channel 5
"This drunk seventeen year old in her Mum's car is Underage, under the influence and now under arrest."

Brilliant
-- Lee Having a Fabialous time.
Tonight's traffic Cops - BazzaBear {P}
However, he does try to glorify something they should be warning people against, and also spends a lot of time talking utter, utter rubbish.

"This person sped at uncontrollable speeds along a busy highway with no regard for others safety, swerving from lane to lane"
Cut to picture from UK road of someone doing 75mph on a motorway, pulling into the fast klane smoothly and overtaking someone.
Tonight's traffic Cops - Citroënian {P}
a lot of time talking utter, utter rubbish.


Not much else comes out of TV these days, but I do find John Bunnell entertaining. He does some great golf videos too.

Er, and Volkswagen make a car called a Golf....shuffling back to motoring


-- Lee Having a Fabialous time.
Tonight's traffic Cops - Adam {P}
Don't get me started on him again. He cracks me up!

You'll see them on an empty highway at 1am chasing a 15 year old in a BM and he'll go "They reached breakneck speeds of 100 miles per hour. It's a miracle the car didn't turn over!" like BMW's are prone to just flipping upside down on a completely flat road.

Another good one is "If he's not careful this suspect will make it from 60 to eternity in no time at all"

Have you ever noticed how they're always "seconds away from disaster".
--
Adam
Tonight's traffic Cops - Citroënian {P}
And what about Captain C W Jensen? A solid pillar of sensible advice.

Why is it that the American cops come across on TV much better than the UK ones? They seem to have a more relaxed air of authority. Perhaps it's the gun.

What you're about to see in the next sixty minutes is real

-- Lee Having a Fabialous time.
Tonight's traffic Cops - Adam {P}
C.W. Jensen's badge seems to get brighter every time he's on!

And remember Lee, "danger is a reality that can't be avoided"

"This drunk will see more bars than he bargained for. for a long time!"

Superb!
--
Adam
Tonight's traffic Cops - Citroënian {P}
{laughs}

We're gonna get this thread pulled here, so I'll keep the new ones to posts elsewhere...

The standard issue patrol car. It's a life saving tool

Lee.

{still chuckling}
-- Lee Having a Fabialous time.
Tonight's traffic Cops - Adam {P}
Hilarious. The man is a legend. I'll keep thinking of some of his more witty quotes!

I'm still laughing!
--
Adam
Tonight's traffic Cops - chronyx
For a real sickbag experience, try and catch Sherrif something or
other on sat tv. The man who put the mug in
smug.


I hate this guy with a passion normally reserved for Micra drivers.
Tonight's traffic Cops - Robin Reliant
The thing that irks me the most about Sheriff John is his constant repetition of "You can't beat the law".

Bearing in mind that half of America's rich list is made up of Mafia Dons I don't know where he gets that from.
Tonight's traffic Cops - Altea Ego
oh come on - he was fair enough.

He let off the bloke in the lotus who nearly lost it because he was genuinely sorry and wouldnt do it again, and he nicked the biker because he jumped the white lines *and didnt look in the mirrors to see a copper in full livery on his tail*

thats sheer stupidity and shows lack of care and he would probably do it all again and boast to his mates.


Two classic instances of failing the attitude test.


Tonight's traffic Cops - Rishab C
But... there isn't even supposed to be an attitude test, in fact they have a little handbook to pursude them otherwise.
I can't believe they even bother to stop a motorcyclist who can see for miles ahead and takes about 0.5 secs to get around a car, they encroach onto the opposite carriageway about 2 feet anyway.

I have yet again had dealings with the Police at work over very serious crimes involving large numbers of really bad habitual criminals, that they just don't seem in the slightest bit bothered about, taking some 3 days to arrive to a serious incident, they seem to avoid real crime like hares avoid hounds.

A freind has just joined the service in Nottingham, and at the passing out parade the chief contable addressed the rows of new recruits, "Hi, I'm Steve! Your chief contable..." That just about sums it up.
Tonight's traffic Cops - Hawesy1982
If i get pulled over by the police for no obvious reason, and they start trying to impose their authority on me by aggressive behaviour and/or threats of points/fines, i always ensure that i remain calm and polite with them, but ask if i may take down their names and numbers.

I've had this happen many times, and twice from the same undercover car which was not road legal (headlight out, and was stopped by same car twice in a fortnight).

Every time, this request results in them backing down and usually driving off without any further needless questioning.

**I get pulled over a lot due to me being in my early twenties, and often driving around town late on friday and saturday nights. I have no issue with being spot-checked as long as the policeman conducting it are reasonable in their manner**
Tonight's traffic Cops - MichaelR
**I get pulled over a lot due to me being in
my early twenties, and often driving around town late on friday
and saturday nights. I have no issue with being spot-checked as
long as the policeman conducting it are reasonable in their manner**


I guess I must be lucky as I never seem to suffer from this. I am also early 20's - just - but have the unfortunate problem that I look about 3 years younger than I am. Constantly asked for ID's in pubs etc.

Yet despite driving around town, often on Saturday nights when I pick friends up etc, in a car that looks far beyond my insurability prospects, I've never been stopped for no reason (Never stopped at all infact).

Wonder why?
Tonight's traffic Cops - Dynamic Dave
I started watching it last night - until after a few minutes I discovered
it was yet another BBC repeat masquerading under a new title.


I video'd it as I was watching The Bill. But same as you Frostbite - seen this one at least twice before, and one of those times was earlier this year, when it was shown at 22:30. Zapped through it only then to realise I had set the timer wrong and recorded the Whistleblower programme afterwards, which made much better viewing.
Tonight's traffic Cops - Imagos
Keep hearing the term 'cat and fiddle'

As i'm from 'dahn sarf' i'm a bit naive here. What is it?
Tonight's traffic Cops - PhilW
'cat and fiddle'
Name of pub on the A537 Buxton to Macclesfield over the Pennines - given its name to the road

www.derekmobbs.com/CatAndFiddle/intro.asp
Tonight's traffic Cops - Pete M
Tom Shaw: That's Sheriff John Bunnell (Retired), and he makes a number of programmes along those lines. I've almost given up watching any that he fronts. They tell you what you're going to see, then he gives his homily, then you see a long drawn out process of the chase, with the climactic scenes repeated several times with some wierd scene shift distortion stuff. Then they recap it for you and you see it again several times while John intones some more purple prose. The makers obviously have worked out how to make ten minutes of material fill half an hour of television. To cap it, most of their material has been in other programmes, and presented better.
The British programmes are far better.
Tonight's traffic Cops - BobbyG
Meant to say re the Traffic Cops program, I take it Alfa wouldn't be too keen in seeing one of their cars "spontaneously combust (the copper's words), and write itself off due to fire, right in front of the cameras!
Tonight's traffic Cops - v8man
The traffic cops series was shown on Men and Motors molnths ago.
--
\"Nothing less than 8 cylinders will do\"
Tonight's traffic Cops - tyre tread
I never thought I'd see the day when a boy in blue would refer to an offender as "Mate".

No wonder people are losing or have lost respect for the Police.

I have always treated them with respect as I acknowledge that they do a thankless job and when people are in trouble, who do they turn to first but I'm afraid any policemen that speaks to me like that will be quickly reminded of his status and mine.

Don't get me wrong, i have taken many a rollocking from coppers and been booked for the odd speeding offence but accepted them in good grace but equally the Police personnel concerned all treated me with respect and courtesy.
Tonight's traffic Cops - Pezzer
Gonna even it up here, got a waved finger from the Volvo estate on the M27 yesterday evening. I was late for picking my son up and was perhaps 'pressing on' a bit too much. Luckily I saw him very early in my rearview.
It had the desired effect and I will certainly be a bit more careful - far more effective imho than a speed camera.....Thanks
Tonight's traffic Cops - Altea Ego
I played a bit of tag with a copper in a Ovlov last week. I was pressing on (90 and a bit - and a bit more) on the A1 south late evening. He was tootling up the loooooooong l/h slip for the a14. I saw him miles away but still carried on. It raised a flutter of interest he puled out of the slip and I saw the back squat down down as he applied some welly, but by the time he had got to within 50 yards I had slwed it down to 75 ish so he lost interest and filtered back into the slip.


I recount this tale becuase it demonstrates to me yet again that the thing coppers hate most is not being seen when driving a car in full makeup.

Thats why the biker on the cat and fiddle got knicked.
Tonight's traffic Cops - madux
Quite agree with with RF. I was in a bike shop a few years ago when a traffic cop came in with a big grin on his face.
"What's so funny?"
"I've just nicked a scooter rider for speeding."
"So?"
"He was doing 40 in a 30."
"And?"
"I followed him for 3 miles."
"And?"
"He had FOURTEEN mirrors!"
b********!
Tonight's traffic Cops - madux
The asterisks above have replaced Basil Brush's catch-phrase, BTW.
Who designed this filter????????
Tonight's traffic Cops - No Do$h
The asterisks above have replaced Basil Brush's catch-phrase, BTW.
Who designed this filter????????


This site is viewed all over the world. In south-east asia the phrase you refer to has a very different meaning, hence it's inclusion in the filter.
No Do$h - Alfa-driving Backroom Moderator
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Tonight's traffic Cops - madux
>> The asterisks above have replaced Basil Brush's catch-phrase, BTW.
>> Who designed this filter????????
>>
This site is viewed all over the world. In south-east
asia the phrase you refer to has a very different meaning,
hence it's inclusion in the filter.
No Do$h - Alfa-driving Backroom Moderator
mailto:moderators@honestjohn.co.uk

How many languages does the swear filter speak then?
Can I mention Cona coffee?
Tonight's traffic Cops - madux
>> >> The asterisks above have replaced Basil Brush's catch-phrase, BTW.
>> >> Who designed this filter????????
>> >>
>>
>> This site is viewed all over the world. In
south-east
>> asia the phrase you refer to has a very different
meaning,
>> hence it's inclusion in the filter.
>> No Do$h - Alfa-driving Backroom Moderator
>> mailto:moderators@honestjohn.co.uk
>>
How many languages does the swear filter speak then?
Can I mention Cona coffee?


Yes I can!
Funny that. There must be more Spanish speaking readers out there than South East Asian ones.
Perhaps Mr Growler could tell us what 'Basil Brush' means over there.
Tonight's traffic Cops - Pezzer
Couldnt agree more - not the first time that good observation has saved the day !
Tonight's traffic Cops - Beaks
Admittedly i am not a traffic cop, but have been a patrol police officer for 16 years and routinely deal with motorists. The majority of people who get stopped by police and then get a ticket get it because their driving so bad to be untrue and/or they have an attitude problem and fail the attitude test. Most police officers would rather educate than dish out tickets.Most of us do not like spedd cameras either.They have no discretion and only persecute decent motorists..
Tonight's traffic Cops - Hugo {P}
Interesting debate here WRT the biker and the Elise driver.

The Elise driver learned a very good lesson, and he knew it.

He hadn't had the car long and it was his inexperience at driving it that he fell foul of. IMO it was nothing more. The stern warning from the copper that his driving was unacceptable worked at that time. I have had similar when I was pulled for 95 on the M5, by an unmarked patrol car. The reason I was let off IMO was because I was polite, apologetic and genuinely keen to understand the errors of my ways (plus I asked the officer to "consider a caution" when he said I was going to get a ticket :) but that's another story). The same logic applied with the elise driver.

The biker, as many of you observed, did a deliberate, and some say OK manovre. There were no mistakes, just deliberate actions. He commited a specific offence and seemed oblivious to that huge volvo right behind him with POLICE written all over it. His continued arrogence after he had been booked underlined this for me. He was trying to tell the reporter that what he did was safe? The white lines are there for a reason, because years of experience in road designs have told the highways authority that they should be where they are.

Hugo
Tonight's traffic Cops - Thommo
As has been said above there is not supposed to be an attitude test.

The police are supposed to deal with everyone in a fair manner. Instead we all know that if we treat them like revered gods and call them officer and sir we have a chance of getting off and we do it and then say onanist when they've gone. Also having large breasts (if female) is said to help a lot.

And in this case the law was applied er... eratically.

Whilst not suggesting there should be one law for cars and another for bikes, bikes can do certain things more easily than cars and moving back and forth over the line is one of them, add superior acceleration and what he did whilst illegal didn't really seem that bad to me.

The Elise driver was driving in such a crazy manner that he binned the car backwards. Have you ever driven an Elise? They stick to the road like excrement to a bed covering. Plus what would have happened if there was a vehicle coming in the opposite direction when he binned it. Clear ticket if not prosecution for dangerous driving but as he was all crawly lick bottom he didn't get one.

This is what drives people mad!
Tonight's traffic Cops - BazzaBear {P}
I did not see the programme, but I know the road and the reputation it ... enjoys.
This is only a theory, but is it possible that police on that road have been told to be particularly hard on bikers, to send out a message.
A very large proportion of the accidents on that road are down to bikers enjoying it a bit too much.
Tonight's traffic Cops - Wales Forester
The Traffic Cops episode mentioned was a 'taster' episode for a completely new series that was filmed in the second half of 2004 and is due for transmission soon.
The new series, I am told, has been filmed entirely with Cheshire Police, as opposed to South Yorks for the previous programmes.

PP