Having a browse through the Rochdale Observer this weekend I read the court pages.
At least 10 people were convicted of driving without tax, insurance, or MOT, yet the maximum fine was 250 quid, with many of just 100 pounds.
What's the maximum fine for no insurance? Mine costs me over 1000 pounds per year yet these little toe-rags get away with it scott free.
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Those lenient fines jesse are the reason that so many people drive illegaly. The chance of being caught is small, the punishment if you are is less than the cost of being law abiding. No votes in changing things so politicians will continue to squabble about individual NHS patients; plenty of votes. Hold on while I throw up.
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Maximum for No Insurance that can be imposed by FPN is 200 notes and 6 points.
If taken to Court then 5,000 notes and 6 to 8 points.
This means, at 6 points, immediate removal of Licence for a New Driver.
Under Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005, police can seize the vehicle and impound. Charge hefty release fee on proof vehicle has been Insured.I read some Forces are already using this power.
Courts when someone is before them generally carrty out a financial assessment of the worth of a defendant and what they can pay. Would like to see the face of a Chav (Council House And Violent) given the max penalty!!!!!!!!
DVD
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Let's not forget those tax cameras that read you number plate. No chance of avoiding those.
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I once had the misfortune to work with a bloke who would buy an old banger with 3 months MOT & Tax for £2-300, drive it around uninsured until the tax ran out, then dump it.
He was actually fined (after a parking incident) for having no insurance, but carried on.
After many hints (You really shouldn't be driving with no insurance etc) - (Reply 'That's my business) (Please don't drive to work - I don't want your car parked next to mine) - (He parked around the corner) we in the end 'phoned the Police, giving name, home address and work address, and reg. numbers of his car, and the previous car, by now dumped in the supermarket car park opposite.
And did they do anything about it?
No.
Why bother?
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saw a quote last week, forget where, that says the law and the courts only deal with those who tend to obey the law and who occasionally and genuinely forget to buy the tax or the insurance cos they're having a tight month. Those who ignore it tend not to get caught.
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.>> I once had the misfortune to work with a bloke whowould buy an old banger with 3 months MOT & Tax for £2-300, drive it around uninsured until the tax ran out, then dump it.
Ooh more dis-satisfied customers - let me see if I can help you out here:
1. I think you should be congratulated for your vigilence and and due regard for other people's welfare in encouraging your rogue employee to sort out his insurance issue.
2. The Police - When you called and gave them the information, you have to understand that the Police act within CRIMINAL LAW. It might surprise you to find that the Police (in this matter) do NOT have the power to simply write to the guy 'out of the blue' and REQUIRE him to produce his documents. The power to produce documents comes from (amongst other legislation) the ROAD TRAFFIC ACT Section 163 which states:
A Constable in UNIFORM may stop a VEHCILE being driven on a PUBLIC ROAD and REQUIRE the DRIVER to produce his documents if he does not have them with him at the time.
Not word-for-word but I hope you get the general gist. So, by knowing where this guy lives and where he frequents coupled with a description of the car - these details will have been given to front line officers in the hope that if they can find the car being driven, then give the driver a producer - and if/when he should FAIL to produce the documents he could be prosecuted.
So by giving Police the name and address of the driver and his registration only helps the Police to 'sit up and wait' to catch the driver in the process of driving. I'm sure the car's details were passed onto front line officers and they kept an eye out for the car - sometimes you can be in the right place and right time and act on the information given, or sometimes not.
3. Nothing was done? Well I assure you that the details you gave would have been run through the Police systems and you never know, the reason 'nothing appears to have been done' might be that there are other agencies who have an interest in this fellow and thus prevent the locla Police from acting immidiately. OK perhaps NOT a high possibility - but you don't know. The moral of the story is you have to do your bit and trust that the Police will do theirs. Without information on who is doing what how will we as a society be able to deal with the varous nefarious (and anti social) elements in our communities? You SHOULD bother because without you, the Polcie would find it very difficult to catch the bad guys.
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Ooh more dis-satisfied customers - let me see if I can help you out here:
Customers? Would that mean us, the general public?
Surely the scroats are their "Customers"!
you never know, the reason 'nothing appears to have been done' might be that there are other agencies who have an interest in this fellow and thus prevent the locla Police from acting immidiately.
So the locla Police did look into it, but were warned-off by Special Branch/MI5/Customs & Excise/Tescos, who didn't want their cover blown?
I think I saw that episode of The Bill.
Or could the bloke not be bothered to fill out the form.
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From the local rag last week :-
a)local man broke into two cars and, on each occasion stole a CD player and CD's.Already on probation for other matters.Sheriff deferred sentence for 6 months for good behaviour.
b)thief with long list of previous convictions in court for stealing a purse. Was originally charged with assaulting 64 year old woman and robbing her but pleaded guilty to lesser charge. Also admitted stealing a a bag and a purse from two different locations.Has previously done time. Sentence deferred for 6 months for good behaviour.
c) man assaulted local woman, was bailed not to approach her but turned up later and assaulted her again. Sentence deferred for 4 months for good behaviour.
15 other reports of offences where public are asked to contact police with information.
Local prisons are so full the Justice Minister proposes giving 'get out of jail' cards after 25% of the sentence is served.
Is it any wonder police are strugglng to cope?
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>>Or could the bloke not be bothered to fill out the form.
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Like I said in my post - you'd never know what the Police did with the information, and just because you don't see an immidiate action doesn't mean it's been tossed aside. Furthermore, I refer you to the point of the Police having to act within the Law, namely Criminal Law. If you attend the front desk of your Police Station and report So-and-So as driving with no licence or insurance then the Police will need to catch him driving to then issue him with a producer.
In the absence of a road traffic accident (for which you CAN get a letter in the psot instructing you to produce your documents) or moving traffic offence - there IS NO POWER. What would you have the Police do? Like us, the Police must work within the framework of the Law.
I don't understand why you're so anti? If no power exists, then no power exists - if you don't like the law then lobby your MP to have it changed.
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