I know it's supposed to be a boring procession & everyone supposedly hates Schumy (not me actually)etc but I wonder how many of us will be tuning-in in the middle of the night to catch the start of another Grand Prix season?
I will be for sure. I won't catch every race but the anticipation and atmosphere from Melbourne takes some beating for a sporting spectacle.
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I'm sure I'll have every intention of staying up and wathching live, then simthing will happen (i.e. I'll have too many tubes) and I'll fall asleed and miss it.
Probably just watch the re-run later in the day.
Another season of the mrs being in a hump with me every other Sunday.
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I for one will be watching as hopefully McLaren, or anything other than a Schumacher driven Ferrari, taking the podium.
I would watch the re-run in the afternoon, but then it's just old news, and they tend to hack the grand prix to pieces and miss out bits that weren't so interesting. Plus I can't watch the live timing online.
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'they tend to hack the grand prix to pieces and miss out bits that weren't so interesting' and as a result of this the programme will now fill the slot between the news and the weather forecast!
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No motorsport gets moaned about more than F1. Yet none of the others come even close to F1's viewing figures. The speed, technology, intrigue, double dealing and political backstabbing between teams with bigger budgets than many economies, it's Dallas and Dynasty in real life.
Love it!
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Not to mention the predictability after the first couple of races - once everyone know which cars are capable of completing races consistently and which ones aren't.
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Worst thing is having to read about it on here:-)
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Could anyone tell me the EXACT time the race starts?
Not the main program, preview or highlights.
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Could anyone tell me the EXACT time the race starts? Not the main program, preview or highlights.
Usually approx. 30 minutes after the programme start, on the hour.
I do hope no-one will start posting results or comments about results prior to the later transmission time for us less fanatical followers.
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on the hour.
Yes but which hour?? I can't find an answer anywhere!
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The programme starts on ITV at 1:35am, I would presume start time is around two. I may well stay up myself, with a lie in on Sunday to recover.
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I shall tape it, and watch it with croisant and coffee at breakfast
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No motorsport gets moaned about more than F1. Yet none of the others come even close to F1's viewing figures. The speed, technology, intrigue, double dealing and political backstabbing between teams with bigger budgets than many economies, it's Dallas and Dynasty in real life. Love it!
Eh? More like Eastenders- same old plot and tedious in the extreme.
If you want fast exciting racing and have Sky Motors then watch Australian V8 touring cars.
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Arghh!! does no one know when it starts?
>bangs head against wall in frustration!>>
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>>hh!! does no one know when it starts?
TV Times has it as 03.00hrs on Sunday for race start Programme starts 01.30hrs.
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Ah! Yeah but, No but, Yeah But...is that the first start or the restart?
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Have you heard the latest?
The results for the 2005 season have been stolen from bernie's motorhome.
b********! i thang yew..
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>>hh!! does no one know when it starts? TV Times has it as 03.00hrs on Sunday for race start Programme starts 01.30hrs.
According to ITV.com & the F1 page, the programme starts at 01:55hrs.
www.itv-f1.com/TVSchedule.aspx
www.itv.com/listings/ShowListings.aspx?itvregion=l...0
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Because of the cooking of the rules to mess up Ferrari I may give it up, and since these new rules are going to make things boring it may be that others will too.
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If in any doubt as to when the race actually starts, see www.formula1.com it has a big countdown clock at the top
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Our local fairground has a turntable type ride housing various stylish racing cars - the cars and young drivers all follow each other like sheep as well...:-)
Always preferred the British Touring Car Championship with real racing for at least 85 per cent of the time.
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Ah, BTCC - I wondered when that would come up. Whatever floats your boat I suppose, but I alway's think of it as banger racing for the well off. Reminds me of sitting watching reps drive round the M25.
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... and the first race has not even started!
I am a great fan of Formula 1 (and Moto GP!) however they keep mucking around with the rules, now we have combined qualifying times from the two sessions, Sat and Sun, making up the grid. However a downpour just after the first session started ensured a 2 sec gap from 1st to 2nd and 20 odd seconds from 1st to last. If it is either consitently dry or consistently wet in the second session then the Renault of G Fisi is virtually guaranteed pole unless he drops it or it blows up, futhermore he can now run more fuel in the second session therefore taking more into the 1st stint of the race (He could now almost secure pole in Vtiredeyes missus's new Clio!).
Yes it might be intersting to see MS come from the back of the grid however this makes a lottery of the whole race meeting devaluing the millions invested and 1000's of skilled hours spent developing the cars over the winter.
Bring back the one hours session on a Saturday, all cars on the track at once, greater spectacle and fairer too.
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Cobblers.
The rain has throw the whole thing in the air, mixing up fast car and slow cars, ensuring everyone going into session 2 is going to go fult pelt to improve grid slots. Even then the Starting grid will be mixed up.
EXCELENT start.
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Cobblers, might as well cobble the main straight for all the difference it will make now, you're just happy a voiture Francais is on prov pole! Even if it is made in Britain and driven by an Italian!
The gaps between the cars are too great to expect major changes in the second session unless there is, once again, a major downpour. If it is either wet or dry throughout then no change.
Yes the race will be interesting however I want to be able to see the best cars and best drivers come to the fore via a level playing field, the new qual system is not conducive to that.
Still getting up for 3:00am tomorrow though!
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I live three miles down the road from Rons Mercedes madhouse, I am wearing a BMW/Willams F1 sweat shirt, and I hate Flavio with a passion, so no not prejudiced towards voitre Francais.
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I used to live three miles from Ronald McLaren's place, and only a few hundred yards from the Dennis household, infact my wife was an aquaintance of his wife's (and I was just saying to Robbie Williams the other day how I hate name dropping!) however I was always, and I guess still are, drawn to the red cars. F1 merchandise has never appealed though.
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>>Yes it might be intersting to see MS come from the back of the grid however this makes a lottery of the whole race meeting devaluing the millions invested and 1000's of skilled hours spent developing the cars over the winter.>>
But surely this "lottery" as you call it would make F1 far more more fair to all involved, thus attracting many more people like me who usually don't watch because we pretty well know the results in advance; what's more you can add whose going to land the driver's and manufacturer's championship at the end of the season even before the first race warmup lap is underway?
Meanwhile I gather the Melbourne result may well have surprised people like me, going by what clues the other half is giving out?
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They had an interesting but too short - interview with Ross Brawn (Ferrari's technical director) in which he voiced the opinion that the aerodynamic changes made this year will not make overtaking any easier.
He was of the opinion that the only way to get more overtaking would be to remove all of the down-force aids - I assume he meant wings and under-body diffusers.
Much has been made about ideas developed in racing cars finding their way into our road cars - disc brakes etc. However the huge emphasis in F1 on aerodynamic aids to down-force have, I suspect, little relevance to the cars we drive 'reasonably' close to the speed limit.
As long as nobody was hurt it would be quite enjoyable to see a Ferrari get airborne like those Jaguars? at Le Mans a couple of years ago.
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Thought it was flying Audis?
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Or even Le Mans 1999
First Mark Webber did it twice in a MB CLK-GTR at almost 180mph and then Peter Dumbrick did it before the cars were withdrawn.
Mark Webber was on the brakes in 0.7 seconds but too late.
"I was actually more relaxed the second time around"
Now I think that really is Coooool.
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I'd love to see the formula changed to diesel engines for a few years. It would be great to see how much performance the best engineers and designers in the world could wring out of them.
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I'd love to see the formula changed to diesel engines for a few years. It would be great to see how much performance the best engineers and designers in the world could wring out of them.
and how much extra the promoters could make selling all the spectators face masks.
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I'd love to see the formula changed to diesel engines for a few years. It would be great to see how much performance the best engineers and designers in the world could wring out of them.
Might be the one thing that would rule Ferrari out!
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Nope, they were Mercedes CLK GT cars (nothing like a road CLK)took off on the Mulsanne Straight as the front went light over the humps, the 200mph air flow got caught underneath overcoming the down force and they flew like a playing card would if you dropped it out of a car window at 50mph.
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Nope, they were Mercedes CLK GT cars (nothing like a road CLK)took off on the Mulsanne Straight as the front went light over the humps, the 200mph air flow got caught underneath overcoming the down force and they flew like a playing card would if you dropped it out of a car window at 50mph.
This in reply to RF though HenryK got there first.
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Anyone up and watching?
I am!
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Not having tyre changes in the pits stops is a nonsense. The mechanics looking at the tyres wondering what else to do is farcical.
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I managed to make to the grid at 3.00 am. Good but unexciting race ... nice to see DC having his best race for ages.
Agree with comment over tyre changes. Also with engines supposed to last 2 races - does this mean that alternate races will see drivers pushing their engines harder?
There! I think I mangaged to comment without giving the result away for those viewing on VHS later......
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Also with engines supposed to last 2 races - does this mean that alternate races will see drivers pushing their engines harder?
No idea. But I see that BAR have already found a loophole in the new rules. Both their cars were outside the top eight finishers, so the team told the drivers not to cross the finishing line.
By not crossing the finishing line, they were classed as failing to finish the race and thus allows BAR to use a fresh engine in both cars the next race.
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the huge emphasis in F1 on aerodynamic aids to down-force have, I suspect, little relevance to the cars we drive 'reasonably' close to the speed limit.
But they do have a huge amount of relevance to the amount of advertising the cars can carry...
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James Allen said "That was a reasonably entertaining GP"
Well I do not think so.
TV coverage was not good. They did not even show most of the easiest bits - the pits stops. I guess the Aussies are used to covering action on the track whereas in F1 there is more excitement in the pit lane.
I am amazed that the powers to be have not trained the TV companies to understand what is going on and therefore cover the action in a better way.
Having introduced car to pits radio coverage we now get commentary over the top of it. I need a " mute the chat" button.
At least they have stopped wasting time with complete restart when someone screws up on the grid.
The other improvement may be that, due to the raised nose wing, more cars may survive going agricultural.
Oh the race? So glad I have a video as the race was certainly not worth watching live.
Lets hope things improve a lot.
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Agreed TV coverage was confusing. The commentators just 'do their own thing' and pay no attention to the pictures being broadcast.
I think the inability of cars to overtake will once again dominate the outcome of races.
Alonso was probably the quickest driver out there today. However he spent 19 laps behind Jacques Villeneuve trying to overtake. When he eventually got past he went away at 3 seconds a lap and eventually lapped Jacques.
I wonder what will happen to BAR for bringing their cars in on the last lap. Engines have to last for 2 races now unless you do not finish the race. BAR had no chance of getting points so they effectively retired their 2 cars - new engines allowed for next race. How long before every team pulls in their cars when they have no hope of points.
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For all the interest and excitement in F1, they could probably get away with using horses and carts...
Come to think of it, they would see some overtaking atleast...
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Yeah I Agree wih you madf formla 1 used to be good in the days when Mansell and Piquet were going at hammer an tongs! never mind though when the races start coming on on the sunday afternoon we can all go to sleep with them lol!!
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Why have all those blokes in the pit stop when no tyres get changed? Surely this is exposing people in a dangerous environment for no good reason?
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Why have all those blokes in the pit stop when no tyres get changed? Surely this is exposing people in a dangerous environment for no good reason?
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Considering the money they're on and the general environment, I reckon the job has shrunk to the point where I might apply - well qualified in standing around watching others work.
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I think it is hard to judge the impact of the new rules on this weekend's showing as there were weather conditions which came into play.
I thought Mikey got his just desserts. Cheeky wotsit.
I wish I had that many people checking my tyre pressures in the local Shell garage.
I have great respect for Brundle as a commentator. He goes to the bother of learning the rules and understanding them, often better than the teams themselves. He is also (occassionally) entertaining - what on earth was he getting at with the barbed pre-race question about traction control??? I'm sure he will learn that when the caption comes on to show the pit radio he will shut up.
And...further to discussion somewhere up above "Lord won't you fly me...a Merceedes Benz". Yes, they were the Le Mans flyers... IMHO sports car racing (and specifically endurance racing) suffers insufficient TV coverage. I won't go into why, it'd take too long. But the season starts in Sebring in 2 weeks. I wonder if it will be on UK TV? Especially as there is a new Aston in the line up... and she looks a beaut... www.astonmartinracing.com/index.htm
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I have great respect for Brundle as a commentator.
I have to disagree. His yearly, even every race sniping at Ferrari and in particular Schumacher is becoming a trifle tedious. Of course he should know the rules, he was a driver in F1 for 13 years for heavens sake!
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Good to see Fisi take to the podium, he was not able to last time he won.
Good to see Rubens and Alonso show the rest how to race.
Good to see DC and Jaguar, er I mean RBR, stuff McLaren.
Otherwise not a good start to the season.
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The race promised quite a bit of excitement with the mixed-up grid positions but strangely failed to deliver.
On the whole the drivers seemed to be too concerned about preserving their tyres to make any overtaking manouvers, content to trail around waiting for their opponents to slide off.
Schumacher, M might have been expected to provide some interest but after blitzing the no-hopers in the opening laps didn't seem to be that much better than the rest.
Alonso, however, was able to get some life into the race. Interviewed on the grid he didn't rate his chances of getting from 10th to the podium but by daring, determination and superior equipment managed to make up the places.
Disappointments for Toyota and BAR. Trulli had a gift starting on the front row but depite their traditional pre-season hype the car wasn't up to it. Don't think I even heard Schumacher, R mentioned once.
BAR didn't have the feel of the place either and although Sato managed to pass Schumi, not mentioned by James Allen, got bogged down in midfield. Button went backwards at the start amnd never recovered.
Encouragement for Red Bull, they were lucky with their grid slots but were on the pace and finished the race in good positions.
The new rules don't appear to have made the racing any more exciting as even the best drivers in the best cars can't or won't pass lesser oppostition. I went back to bed a trifle disappointed.
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Imagos - the rules have changed somewhat over 13 years, yet he often seems more abreast of them than the teams themselves.
He isn't the only one who snipes at Ferrari - I suspect that's done for the popular vote.
Although M Walker was vastly entertaining and knowledgable I prefer the more sober insight given by the current team of commentators.
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Imagos - the rules have changed somewhat over 13 years, yet he often seems more abreast of them than the teams themselves.
But he has kept his ear close to the ground over the years in being a commentator and something that really irks me, being Mr Coulthard's advisor.(A driver that i really respect)So he is well aware of the rules. He seems to quote every race (as he did this sunday)that he has some connection with DC. This to me means that he's not impartial but biased, im particular against Ferrari. Did you listen to his commentary when Schumacher collided with Heidfield?
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Brundle is quite an astute businessman. Not the worlds best F1 driver it has to be said but a good enough sportcar driver.
He is heavily involved in the BRDC and Silverstone so he hates the dwarf.
He is Coultards business manager so he will always be "preaching the cause" (a lost cause if you ask me)
He is British as a bulldog so he will have a natural inbred "affinity" towards the French.
And like most of us, starting to get a little weary about Ferari winning a lot, and subsequently starting to throw weight around and abuse power.
Biased? Noooooooooooo!
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I was sorry to see the re-appearance of Jacques Villeneuve on the F1 scene.
IMO, he will add no more than a mobile chicane with his less than state of the art car, and particularly with his arrogant attitude towards others.
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Quite amusing to see David Coulthard sporting a.. well an attempt at a beard. It was probably a dig at his old boss as his new one said 'David doesn't have to shave everyday now if he doesn't want to and he doesn't need to know the press pack word for word either'
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/43...m
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Formula 1 has turned into a sanitized guff complete with pantomime goodies and baddies. The whole circus is run along the same lines as WWF wrestling. 2005 will be more of the same, with a ?thrilling? dash to the championship by Michael Schumacher (unless - for conspiracy theorists Ferrari have been told to loose)
Engineering wise F1 has my admiration, as sport turn over and watch Emmerdale.
Where are the real racers?
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Did Minarda get in with last years car....the one that does not meet the new rules but is needed to keep up grid numbers?
If so why don't all users of this forum club together and see if we can buy an old Vanwall or a Renault F1 Turbo from 20 years ago so we can have a go at the championship.
F1 leaves me cold.
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Did Minarda get in with last years car....the one that does not meet the new rules but is needed to keep up grid numbers?
No they used their new aerodynamics IIRC. The FIA certainly weren't happy that Paul Stoddard won the court injunction to run last year's car. But I think he conceded to FIA pressure in the end.
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Where are the real racers?
You didnt see fisichela and Webber then?
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After hearing today's result, my better half did make the comment that at least it was ensuring that that Michael Shoemaker or whatever his name was wasn't winning every race.
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I thought today's race was pretty good. Drivers are having to drive the cars rather than pilot them.
Do you notice the number of Jordans on the track?
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"Do you notice the number of Jordans on the track"
yes there was 116 Jordons. Two to be overtaken every lap.
I hear they are going to paint them with red and white stripes so they blend in with the kerbs.
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Yes, some real racing for a change.
Only downside that I felt was some semi-crippled cars - perhaps if they allowed them just one tyre change??
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I have watched F1 since Raymond Walker was the comentator. This season I have completely lost interest.
I dislike arrogant Germans like everone else, but Michael Schumacher is one of the greatest drivers ever.
He pulled up Benetton from nothing, winning 2 word titles. He went to Ferrari, who had not won a championship for ages and we all know what he has done there. Now because us British hate success, he is criticised.
To see inferior drivers beating Schumacher because of stupid rule changes makes me switch off.
If the other teams want to beat him they should make better cars and get better drivers.
Just in case people do not believe what I say about the British not liking success, look at Henry Cooper and Stirling Moss. They never won the world championship, but we love them, don't we. Well I do anyway.
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Tried to make a thread for each race www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?f=2&t=30...9
Oh well that didn't work then.
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"To see inferior drivers beating Schumacher because of stupid rule changes makes me switch off.
If the other teams want to beat him they should make better cars and get better drivers."
Well my son, open your eyes and look at why he is getting beaten?
He is getting beaten by BETTER cars. The renault has proved to be reliable, quicker, easier to drive and kinder on its tyres.
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"To see inferior drivers beating Schumacher because of stupid rule changes makes me switch off. If the other teams want to beat him they should make better cars and get better drivers." Well my son, open your eyes and look at why he is getting beaten? He is getting beaten by BETTER cars. The renault has proved to be reliable, quicker, easier to drive and kinder on its tyres.
Two points:
1/ IF MS was in the same car as Alonso, Fisi et al he would stuff them all.
2/ F2005 due imminently.
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"To see inferior drivers beating Schumacher because of stupid rule changes makes me switch off. If the other teams want to beat him they should make better cars and get better drivers." Well my son, open your eyes and look at why he is getting beaten? He is getting beaten by BETTER cars. The renault has proved to be reliable, quicker, easier to drive and kinder on its tyres.
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We will see in October. It's the whole war to win, not just the odd battle. I don't think MS or Ferrari will take these defeats lying down.
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Just in case people do not believe what I say about the British not liking success, look at Henry Cooper and Stirling Moss. They never won the world championship, but we love them, don't we. Well I do anyway.
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Not to mention the reliable loser Henman.
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Ah yes another English loser.. Jenson Button
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Unfair to put Button with the great British losers - a racing driver is only as good as his car will allow him to be, and he got the maximum out of the BAR last year. It's hardly his fault that Honda's race engineers have got it wrong this season.
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Tom, Tongue firmly in cheek in that post, i want to see Jenson do well as any English Driver
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I have watched F1 since Raymond Walker was the comentator. This season I have completely lost interest. I dislike arrogant Germans like everone else, but Michael Schumacher is one of the greatest drivers ever. He pulled up Benetton from nothing, winning 2 word titles. He went to Ferrari, who had not won a championship for ages and we all know what he has done there. Now because us British hate success, he is criticised. To see inferior drivers beating Schumacher because of stupid rule changes makes me switch off. If the other teams want to beat him they should make better cars and get better drivers.
Perfectly put!
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Wasn't that Raymond Baxter?.
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Wasn't that Raymond Baxter?.
Or Murray Walker?
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If you read Murray Walkers book , even before Raymond Baxter, the first commentaries he did were with Max 'Going for a Song' Robertson who had no interest at all in motor sport and was a tennis commentator.
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Yes you are correct, it was Raymond Baxter the ex Spitfire pilot. And yes I was thinking of Murray Walker, at least he could make a boring race interesting.
Who do you think was the worst F1 championship winner of all time?
Could it be Damon by any chance, he wasn't as good as his dad.
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"Could it be Damon by any chance, he wasn't as good as his dad."
Certainly not as good at PR as Graham (a super chap I had the honour to meet).
One of the team sponsors told me Damon would always slope off rather than meet & greet sponsors.
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"Only downside that I felt was some semi-crippled cars - perhaps if they allowed them just one tyre change??"
Nah, its a good rule change - the best for years. Firstly rubber companies should be able to make a tyre last 200 miles. Secondly it kicks the designers into making cars that handle better (as opposed to sticking to the road) and be more kind to the tyres.
Thirdly It rewards a smooth driving style.
Forthly it keeps interest going throught the race.
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One thing I'm not clear on, what happens if the race turns wet, or even wet/dry/wet again? Surely there is a provision for tyre changes then, or are they on all weather tyres now?
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Tom this link explains the tyre situation and other rule changes,..
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/42...m
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I see I am not the only one who disagrees with the rule changes, and the lack of spectacle.
When are those that rule the sport going to realise that there is no way of cutting the cost of being at the top level other than reducing the number of races as Ron Dennis says. e.g. any team will spend whatever it can raise in sponsorship.
If they want more overtaking and more exitement then why not just reduce the amount of fuel allowed. This will;
1. Limit the benefit of those teams with the most powerful engines since they will burn more fuel;
2. Create overtaking opportunities since you will not be able to run flat out all race , unless you are in the least powerful car - but can when you need to overtake.
Remember Senna running out of fuel in the early years and Prost pushing his car over the line!
To balance the funding for the lower teams how about a levy as a percentage of advertising revenue based on points won the previous season paid out to the lower performing teams again based on points "not" won. Would help keep the grid numbers up and would Mclaren/Ferrari/Williams rather have to run four cars each?
We could then go back to real tyres and real pitstops and best man/car to win.
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I'd like to see an end to pit to car radio and engine data transmission. One of the skills the older drivers had to master was working out their own race strategies based on the limited amount of information available from the pitboards, and deciding for thaemselves whether the engine needed nursing or not. The technical information and race situation that can now be relayed to the drivers has turned it into too much of a chess match, with tactics decided in the pits rather than down to the skill of the driver.
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I know a guy who'se involved in this new identical cars racing in national teams formula thing. Given whats happening in F1 I think this formula stands a good chance of success...
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I'd like to see an end to pit to car radio and engine data transmission. One of the skills the older drivers had to master was working out their own race strategies based on the limited amount of information available from the pitboards, and deciding for thaemselves whether the engine needed nursing or not. The technical information and race situation that can now be relayed to the drivers has turned it into too much of a chess match, with tactics decided in the pits rather than down to the skill of the driver.
I appreciate what you're saying but the fact is that the modern F1 car is a bit different to those of even just 10 years or so ago. You can't just kick the tyres and light the fires anymore.
Also you have to remember that there is so much money riding on the result nowadays, not just a couple of hundred quid and a few beers for the winner.
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Why bother indeed. Give me the NASCAR any day. But here's a crafty one for you. I spent many years in Bahrain and have a great many contacts there. The government crows about its much vaunted race track in the desert.
The word is that they had to pay university students to attend the last F1 because not enough people were interested enough to sit through a day in 40 C heat, and the couldn't lose face.
Remember you heard it here first.
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"Allons enfants de la patrie,
Le jour de gloire est arrivé"
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Funny question this. I don't think he should have done. The GP win was what he wanted, and I think it was unfortunate that the suspension, not the tyre, gave way in the end.
A great shame for the championship though.
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"Allons enfants de la patrie,
Le jour de gloire est arrivé" again
Well F1 is shoveling up drama in spades this year.
Should he have pitted? well its easy to say now isnt it.
Unfortunte the suspension went? Not quite. He was lucky it held out as long as it did. That car took more abuse and went further than it it had a right to. I have never seen a car shake so much.
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Unfortunte the suspension went? Not quite. He was lucky it held out as long as it did.
The suspension still takes a hell of a beating whenever the wheels go over the curbs, and to take that kind of a beating the designers would have included a fair safety margin in the design. Unfortunate therefore that the margin wasn't big enough for the over-abuse suffered today.
I'm trying to decide whether the guys on the pit wall would have known that the suspension was likely to break. They must take these components through a lot of rigorous testing at the factory which should have shown them what kind of beating the suspension can take. It's likely it was touch and go in the McLaren garage when they decided if the parts were likely to last or not, based on recollection of said tests.
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Irrespective of any decision from the pits, at one time a car so obviously in danger of having an accident would have been black flagged by the race authorities. I can only surmise that all the safety things now mean that drivers almost always get away with an accident, so less worry is felt about the prospect of one.
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It's a lot cooler today, and I think I'm thinking rationally.
So, how come MF apparently answered RFs question nine minutes before he asked it?
Time to lie down again.
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So, how come MF apparently answered RFs question nine minutes before he asked it?
Because I was answering the question I put in the subject header. Or because I'm psychic.
So psychic in fact that I'm predicting your next post to read "so you did".
:-)
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Mike Farrow
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