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Great links Martin, they have answered my questions.. thanks
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some tractors being used other than solely for agric purposes are using derv and have operator licence making a very grey area over conditions of use,example would be lorry at 20 mph is just a slow lorry but a tractor at 25 mph or even30 and everyone complains.I find the comment of tractor at 60 mph plus hard to believe unless it was a unimog and full truck spec suspension air brakes etc ,however I bet more than a few motorists have been glad of a tractor during this snow whether it was with a snowplough or even pulling them out of the drifts
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I have no problem of tractors on the road, they have just as much right.. etc.etc, even though they don't pay road fund licence.
But they MUST obey the rules..
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my point was that as they go on to derv and have operators licence the become goods vehicle and are not subject to agricultural restrictions,I agree that all motorists should abide by the rules no matter what they drive.
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You'll be expecting everyone to keep to the speed limit then?
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Defender, the tractor that was seen was probably a JCB Fastrac easily capable of well over sixty plus mph. I have driven the 50kmh model and at full pelt down hill rekon that I was into the sixty area.
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I see several JCB Fastracs round here. Can confirm they travel at lorry speeds (40-50 mph) but seem to run out of puff rapidly on hills. With a properly matched trailer, surely just what every farmer needs. What about driving licences, though? Surely LGV would make sense for a 60 mph tractor towing a heavy trailer.
Cheers, Sofa Spud
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They lose puff because the drivers drive them like tractors - if you drive them like a lory looking at the revs and changing acordingly then there ok on hills.
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I see one of those JCB fastrack's nearly every day in Shropshire, carting big trailers around. Not sure what the buisness is cause all the trailers are unmarked. Are they allowed to run on red diesel? seems unfair if they spend most of their time on the public highway.
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Martin has covered the flashing amber beacon.
There is no specific law that a tractor has to pull in to let those behind through. That stems from US of A where |I understand it is a requirement if 4 or more vehicles are behind then the tractor should pull in.
What has to be considered is an offence of driving without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road. This was used a couple of years ago when a tractor had about 40 cars behind it on the A.1. to Knaresborough Road and the driver sailed merrily on. But, at Harrogate Magistrates Court, they threw the case out.
Must have thought that like us all, Farmers also need to get on with their jobs without delay?
DVD
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richy if they are carting the farmers own goods within a limited distance of his farm they can run on red deisel,if they are carrying non agri products for hire or reward or longer distances they should use derv and have an operator licence thus becoming a goods vehicle and pay tax accordingly
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When I registered my Ferguson a few years ago the rule was that to qualify as an "agricultural machine" at nil tax rate it had to have a top speed of no greater than 25 mph.
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Very irratating on the A38 south of Bristol (even when the road works are not there!), and few places to overtake over 12 miles or so past the airport, lots of farm tractors and JCB diggers, some drivers are thoughtfull pulling over and delaying themselves by 2 mins as opposed to delaying 20 cars by 5 minutes over 6 or 8 miles, others dont give a toss.
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Defender is right, you can use a tractor with red diesel on the road only for carrying farmers own goods.
Ordinary tractors (not Fastracs) are only supposed to do 20 mph, but most of us go to the max speed of 25 mph. This helps following traffic a bit.
Tractors are not allowed to go on motorways, must have an amber beacon on dual carriageways and are supposed to pull in to let traffic pass.
I use the beacon when on the road, I also pull in where possible. Sometimes drivers are abusive when I allow them to pass, sometimes it takes ages for people to come past, it puts me off pulling in so often.
We are usually in a hurry to get the work done, but I think most Farmers try to be considerate to other road users, and I apologise for the few who don't.
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