Oh dear!
New legislation comes into being on 1 January 2005. Speed limiters will soon have to be fitted to goods vehicles grossing at above 3.5 tonnes restricting them to 56mph. What's more, they're likely to be banned from the outside lane of three-lanes-or-more motorways.
www.whatvan.co.uk/news_s.asp?id=4382
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expect a surge in demand for 3.45 tonne vans
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"limited to 56mph" What in 1st gear?
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OH dear indeed!
I can still shoot up the M way in whichever lane I choose in my 2.? tonne Primastar!
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Oh Lawks!
Yet more dual carriageway rolling road blocks!
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Is this dictated by the EU, or something this crackpot government have cooked up to "punish the motorist" to quote them.
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Be afraid!
Unless there is a sea change of opinion among those who "look after us", it is a certainty that within the next decade speed limiters will be fitted to cars.
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They already are!! Mind you it is at 155 mph ! :)
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You beat me to it. Just wanted to point out that my car is speed restricted to 155mph (250 km/h). I also know the speed restriction works as I've maxed it on the autobahn although the speedo actually shows 265 - 270 km/h when the limiter kicks in.
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The new legislation won't affect the average Luton or Jumbo van. The vehicles affected most will be the 7.5 tonners. Due to the size of some of these vans, many car drivers assume that they LGV's anyway. (And express the appropriate indignation when overtaken by one).. Things won't change much on UK roads for a couple of years yet, until the new legislation and new vehicle purchasers sort of 'gel' together - as they will have to. Even then, pre 2000 (IIRC) won't have to be fitted with speed limiters, so you can expect to see old 7.5 tonners weaving along the motorway at 70mph for some time yet.
By the way, a quick way to check whether or not a commercial vehicle is entitled to use the outside lane of a motorway at 70mph is to count the wheel nuts (one wheel or pair of rears) 6 nuts or less, and it probably is.
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By the way, a quick way to check whether or not a commercial vehicle is entitled to use the outside lane of a motorway at 70mph is to count the wheel nuts (one wheel or pair of rears) 6 nuts or less, and it probably is.
You've better eyesight than me if you can count the wheelnuts of a vehicle doing 60+mph
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spikeyhead,
If you blink at about 2000 bps you get a sort of stroboscopic effect. Sometimes I find it easier to count at the next traffic holdup. Seriously though, check the wheelnuts of the next medium sized 'lorry' you see delivering goods to the local shops. You might be surprised !
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Just think friends, 7.5 tonners now joining the Q of artics trying to overtake on dual carriageways! JOY.
Lorry driver.
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Trouble is, blinking at 200p/sec...the mild frontal lobe epilepsy kicks in and I lose control.
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That wont make make any difference on these van's when you have 44 tonne artic's flashing you to move over from the centre lane when you are doing 70 mph, its time the department of transport sort these truck drivers out who disconnect the speed limiter's
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Agreed (mainly overseas lorry's which they have no control over), but if there's nothing in lane 1, you should move over anyway.
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Try driving in Massacheusetts,
You get used to having to do 80mph jsut so you're travelling faster than the trucks
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Question:
Why, if the speed limit for these vehicles is 60mph, are they limited to 56mph?
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Question: Why, if the speed limit for these vehicles is 60mph, are they limited to 56mph?
Vehicles weighing under 7.5 tonnes are currently allowed to do 70mph on motorways. (60mph if if articulated or towing a trailer)
www.highwaycode.gov.uk/09.shtml#103
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>> Question: >> >> Why, if the speed limit for these vehicles is 60mph, are >> they limited to 56mph? Vehicles weighing under 7.5 tonnes are currently allowed to do 70mph on motorways. (60mph if if articulated or towing a trailer) www.highwaycode.gov.uk/09.shtml#103
Yes, so why the 56mph limit?
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Question: Why, if the speed limit for these vehicles is 60mph, are they limited to 56mph?
56mph = 90kph
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You should hog the outside lane instead Motel, then they won't flash you as they are not allowed there...
It's time the department of transport sorted out lane hogs too...
:-)
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cant get in the inside lane full of other traffic if i go into overtaking lane then i get overtaken by speeding lorries, they are cut to 56mph ec rules also good fuel return
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How many Transit/Sprinter/Iveco etc vans weigh over 3.5t?? Almost none as far as I am aware...
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Only newly registered vehicles will be affected this year. (05 plate). It is from 2006, that older ones (1998 - 2004) have to be retrofitted and by 2008 all of them will have to. Light goods vehicles account for only a small amount of motorway traffic anyway. Does anyone here drive one of those vehicles affected by the new legislation?
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they are limited to 56mph so that when they get on a downhill gradient with a full load, gravity pushes them to 60mph and above for a short period of time. 4mph is the margin given at which driver should think going a bit too fast and put the brakes on.
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I always thought it was EU influence since 56 mph is almost exactly 90 kph
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Could be this or a combination of reason 1 and 2.
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Working 56mph limiters? Don't make me laugh.
I spend two hours a day commuting on the A1, and there aren't many lorries doing less than 65-70. I know people say that dashboard speedos usually read high, but that much?
Out of interest, how do the lorry limiters (and indeed the 155mph ones on autobahn-stormers) work? Do they cut fuelling or what?
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There's a lot of hills on the A1 is all, if you have 44 tonnes on a steep downhill, that's what you get. Limiters just cut the power and maintain through altering the revs.
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Working 56mph limiters? Don't make me laugh. I spend two hours a day commuting on the A1, and there aren't many lorries doing less than 65-70. I know people say that dashboard speedos usually read high, but that much? Out of interest, how do the lorry limiters (and indeed the 155mph ones on autobahn-stormers) work? Do they cut fuelling or what?
Modern limiters now work via the ECU itself and are therefore virtually tamper proof. I'm a coach driver and can tell you 99 percent of lorry limiters work; they very rarely pass me.
{upsidedown style of replying corrected. If you must quote the persons message to which your're replying to, then please do so BEFORE you start writing your reply. DD}
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I do a reasonably high mileage too and I would say that lorries match my speed when I'm doing an indicated 60 mph, which is just what you expect.
Don't forget that it doesn't apply to 7.5 tonne box vans, etc., which might look like trucks but legally aren't, for the time being at least, as mentioned earlier in this thread.
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Check the cabin of some coaches and HGVs and you'll find a functioning fuse just sat around on the dash whilst the accidentally burnt-out one sits in the slot for the limiter (where the limiter is on a dedicated circuit)
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Hi,
Quoted earlier.."How many Transit/Sprinter/Iveco etc vans weigh over 3.5t?? Almost none as far as I am aware..."
Well Quite a lot. 3.5tonne is the gross weight, fully loaded.
On some sprinters and transits maximum weight can be up to 4.5 tonnes. Above 3.5 tonnes gross have to be fitted with a tacho too.
Clive.
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