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Talking about his family now on BBC2. Should be some motoring stuff in it.
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No, there wasn't much in the way of motoring. Maybe a few roadtest type shots of him in his new shape Range Rover.
A few priceless JC thought up sayings such as:
Churchyard where a lot of the Clarksons were buried = Family genetic landfill.
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Like so may "media personalities" he is a crashing bore and should be ignored.
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Like so may "media personalities" he is a crashing bore and should be ignored.
i watched and enjoyed the programme. It was interesting.
Lots of people have a problem with Clarkson, that's fine, i think his style deliberately rubs people up the wrong way. But if you know he going to be on the telly, don't tune in. Problem solved.
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I don''t like him but I enjoyed this - I think it showed where his motoring genes came from given the mechanical bent of his forefathers....it was good.
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As a self-confessed hater of environmentalists JC's becoming a bit of a dinosaur. Environmentalism used to be synonymous with being anti-car, and the whole eco movement was linked to left-wing political beliefs that didn't care much for individualism.
But now environmentalism is centre stage within the car industry and the energy producers and consumers. Renewable energy for road transport is no longer pie in the sky, even if there are many problems to be overcome before it becomes a widespread reality.
cheers, Sofa Spud
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Motoring? Anybody? No?
(with apologies to Matt Lucas)
No Dosh - Backroom Moderator
mailto:moderators@honestjohn.co.uk
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Jeremy is a breath of fresh air and, unlike most, speaks his mind.
Much of what he says is shared by many even if it doesn't suit the politically correct, do as I say not what I do types.
In fact much of the outpourings of the "environmentalists" is merely hot air and the facts they present often prove unsupported when fully investigated.
I can't say I've always liked Jeremy but at least you know exactly where you stand....
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>>Environmentalism used to be synonymous with being anti-car>>
As far as I'm aware it still is. Such protaganists tend to hate others enjoying life to the full and failing to follow their own stridently held, bigoted views.
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The jury is still out on global warming and if it is occurring there might be causes other than burning fossil fuels - e.g. past use of CFCs. These gases were banned because they gradually accumulate in the upper atmosphere and interact with the ozone layer leading to the 'greenhouse effect'. The effect was predicted to increase for some decades after the ban came into effect in 1987.
I'm not in the doomsday global warming alarmist camp. My environmental stance comes from the inescapable fact that the oil and other fossil fuels are being used up and will run out sooner rather than later. North sea gas is already running out and BG is now importing liquified natural gas from the far east to make up for the shortfall. As China's economy grows its energy demands will increase. Even if there are oil reserves for 100 years, much of that oil may become unavailable through international conflicts.
Cheers, Sofa Spud
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"CFCs. These gases were banned because they gradually accumulate in the upper atmosphere and interact with the ozone layer leading to the 'greenhouse effect'"
SS, Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the destruction of the ozone layer by CFCs a different problem to the "Greenhouse effect". Isn't the ozone layer primarily a defence from harmful UV rays? Its destruction would cause problems, but not a greenhouse effect? The ozone layer contributes a tiny amount to "greenhouse effect" so its destruction would mean a decrease in the greenhouse effect. That is not to say that its destruction would be good because it would reduce greenhouse effect since the other effects would be more harmful!
I am open to correction - will have to do a bit of research!!
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Was the Rangie a more product placing than a mere happened to be there car. Rather fetching shots of it combined with its Sat. Nav feature and the "ooh that's an useful table for maps" tend to suggest that it was.
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Clarkson is one of the best presenters on the telly. That little bloke with the horrid shirts isn't bad either.
Comedy moment of last week was surely Clarkson and Geri Halliwell, demonstrating their size difference.
"Just the right height" said Clarkson....and most of us knew what he meant...
At least now the US Election is over, we won't be fed the daily innuendo from Today on Radio 4 any more:
"He said Bush is unbeatable", "She said I go for Bush every time" etc
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>>That little bloke with the horrid shirts isn't bad either.>>
Funny you should say that. Richard Hammond began his TV motoring reporting on Granada's Men and Motors digital output, which came to the attention of comparatively few viewers compared to terrestial TV.
However, his delivery tended to be somewhat flat and tedious - his considerable improvement on Top Gear is most impressive.
Yet he wasn't the worst motoring presenter on Men and Motors. There was one elderly bloke who literally made you want to quietly fall asleep such was the monotony of his voice delivery.
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SS, Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the destruction of the ozone layer by CFCs a different problem to the "Greenhouse effect". Isn't the ozone layer primarily a defence from harmful UV rays? Its destruction would cause problems, but not a greenhouse effect? The ozone layer contributes a tiny amount to "greenhouse effect" so its destruction would mean a decrease in the greenhouse effect. That is not to say that its destruction would be good because it would reduce greenhouse effect since the other effects would be more harmful!
I am open to correction - will have to do a bit of research!!
I'm sure I remember my old chemistry teacher, as far back as 1973, describing the CFC / ozone layer / global warming theory. I can't remember the details but I can distinctly remember him using the actual terms 'greenhouse effect' and 'global warming' all that time ago.
Cheers, SS
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Further to above:
Here is an excerpt re. CFC's from this site:
www.yptenc.org.uk/docs/factsheets/factsheetheader/...f
>>CFCs - found in fridges, air conditioners, aerosols etc. are extremely effective greenhouse gases. Although there are lower concentrations of CFCs in the atmosphere than CO2 they trap more heat. A CFC molecule is 10,000 times more effective in trapping heat than a CO2 molecule, methane is about 30 times more effective. Methane molecules survive for 10 years in the atmosphere and CFCs for 110 years. It is this that causes people to want to ban them completely.<<
Cheers, SS
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Thanks SS - your old chem teacher was right!
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Mods, might not this thread be successfully combined with Top Gear discussion of 4 Nov...?
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Thanks Stuartli, I didn't realise that they had any motoring sections on "Men and Motors".
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Last time I looked it was all about breasts and the surname of the US President...
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Wonder what William Wollard is up to these days?
Fullchat
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Wonder what William Wollard is up to these days? Fullchat
Voice overs for Citroen ads. At least it sounded like him
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>>Last time I looked.. >>
Then you can refresh your memory at:
www.menandmotors.co.uk/
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I was referring to the days of ONDigital and ITVDigital when I used to watch Men and Motors - don't know what it's like today as I now have the Freeview replacement.
This link reveals that Granada Plus is now the just launched ITV3 and that Men and Motors will continue whilst its long term future is assessed:
www.gsb.co.uk/corporate/index.php?ID=2
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PS
Other presenters used to include Chris Goffey and Steve Coogan's brother, Brendan, has dabbled a bit on one of the digital channels in the motoring field.
But V B-H is still the most easy on the eye as well as being a very skilful driver.....
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