{As this thread has become more of a discussion on general high mileages, It's time to move over to Discussion. DD}
When I drive down my road tomorrow I will click over 200000 miles.
The car is a 1999 Rover 75 Diesel. I am currently racking up about 600 miles a week, so around 30000 a yr. I was only planning on keeping the car a short time before getting something with a little less miles with the amount that I drive.
However, there is nothing what so ever wrong with the car and sounds and drives as good as new.
Anyone had any experience of driving cars with these mileages and what can I expect to have to replace if I keep it a couple more years? How much longer is it gonna last before it falls to bits on me?
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I have driven (and fixed) a few 200k mile Mercedes.
Typically the ancilliary componenets pack up first (alternator, water pump, PS pump etc.). Many parts deteriorate on a 'time usage' basis (e.g. radiator, blower motor) and so the mileage doesn't affect them so much.
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I should contact Rover, they may be able to use the positive publicity!
Not that much TiC
Hugo
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Hugo. they may be interested to know that an.M reg 218sld turbo.is on 133k doing well..Mind you due for a service now..Doubt anyone can say that for petrol K series??
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Steve
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My wifes petrol 214si did 140k without any major probs before we sold it. It was still giving 40mpg and no smoke.
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\"Nothing less than 8 cylinders will do\"
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If you have clocked up this amount this quickly (must be mostly motorway) and this easily I would bet it will quite happily clock up another 60K in the next two years. Lets face it, it wont be easy to sell on at a premium price with that mileage up so I would keep running it.
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I agree with Renault Family, run it till it breaks. Changing cars
is the easiest way to loose money and you could end up with something less reliable.
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I doubt that there is many Rover 75's anywhere in the country with this sort of mileage. The main talking point is to anyone you show the car to is 'have a look at the milometer mate', it's something to be proud of.
My advice is keep it and clock as many miles as you can then as previous post, get in touch with Rover.
What can go wrong probably already has.
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The powertrain is all BMW so should be very reliable; it is well proven and runs a comparatively low power output, thus ensuring long life.
Aslong as the engine oil is kept clean and changed reguarly I don't forsee any major problems.
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groups.msn.com/honestjohn - Pictures say a thousand words.....
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Well my 196K Cavalier mk3 needed a new head gasket at 185K; my 194K Carlton never had anything major go. I was wondering what a reasonable lifetime is for a modern car with basic servicing - 250K?
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Fifteen years ago, in a factory in Dagenham, some Ford engineers decided, as a prank, to make a single Mk4 Escort - the world's least interesting car - and make it last forever. Then, fifteen years later they'd see what idiot was still driving it.
Hello! *waves*
-Mark
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Lol.
I think whoever said it early on was right - 200k on a car which is pretty new and working as good as new is really quite impressive.It it were mine, I'd be pointing it out to everyone!
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Adam
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I'm not impressed yet. Been there, done that - now on 306,000 miles.
(1993 Volvo Torslanda)
The local agent knows of two others with over 400,000 miles, still working perfectly.
I think any car will do it if you keep it serviced and in particular change the oil frequently. The wonder to me is why so many people virtually give away cars that are still working.
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The key is to do the miles quickly. At least 25 - 30k per year if you want to go really high.
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How about 1 million miles and very little wear?
www.mobil1.com/why/whatsit/test.jsp
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Don't worry it'll die soon! I found out today when I cleaned it, that mine's rotting from the inside out due to water running down the inside of the rear wheel arches from the drain holes in the rear windows (3-door).
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>>What can go wrong probably already has.
Thats the thing that could be slightly worrying. The only thing thats been replaced aside normal servicing and tyres, brakes etc is an ABS sensor, Air mass meter and the air conditioning has needed recharging...
I think I may run it and go for a record. Does anyone have a higher mileage 75??
The only problem is im only 23 and really wouldnt mind a ZT, wouldnt do my street cred any harm!!
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Not this make or model though an 800 went for about 120k.
I ran a VW Passat from 1991 to 1998 and to 303.500 miles when it was written off whilst parked.
Problems before 200k were very few - battery, silencer, rear dampers and mysterious misfire at 155k miles and at 3000 rpm that went away on its own and never came back. After 200k, one rear wheel bearing (twice - badly fitted), heater pipes fractured at the bulkhead (a variation on the overheating Heater matrix problem subject to recall).
Engine, clutch & gearbox original (despite 2 children learners).
Overall, if it's got to 200k it may just start to feel tired before 300k but nothing much falls off a well made car and the 75 seems the same!
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Heard of a 1999 Saab 9-3 2.2 tid which recently hit 290,000 the owner impressed with this has planned to change it at 400,000 miles!
Keep it service it by the book and it will no doubt return many more miles. It is often the case with high milers that they deteriorate quickly through lack of use.
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A friend of mine did just under 200,000 in his F reg Carlton 1.8i Petrol Estate. He had had it from new.
He was so pleased that he paid serious money to change the engine for a NEW unit from GM. I think he may have had the box changed as well. The car was some 12 years old by then. This was the first time he had ever changed the clutch.
He then did a further 70,000 miles then the car badly failed its MOT, still he got £150 just for the engine, and the rest of the car earned him money as well.
Hugo
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I traded in an L reg 2.0GL Passat Est at 232,000 a few months ago [still with original cambelt - eat your heart out HJ!!] - very little trouble, water pump failed early on at 60,000ish, cambelt tensioner pulley 160,000, new front discs at 200,000, new inner CV joints at 210,000ish, 3 windscreen wiper motors! Main reason for pre-summer sale, aircon condenser failed - would cost more to repair than car worth!
It was never taken in for service - do it yourself. There's not a lot to 'service' these days. At oil changes, leave it for 1/2hr to fully drain, 10,000 + filter + 10-40 cheapish semisynthetic. Don't touch the coolant. Change brake fluid every 5 yrs if you are really keen [I didn't]
Goodness knows what it would have cost if I'd had it serviced every 10K and a cambelt every 60K plus unnecessary jobs like brakepads and discs - probably as much as a new car! The annual MoT is sufficient for peace of mind.
If it works, don't mend it. Unless you are flush, run it till it drops.
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Hi John, Must say I reckon the saying 'more by luck than judgement' applies here.
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To be clear I am refering to the cam belt.
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There is a Subaru high mileage club with many 200k and 300k plus mile cars on.
Two bits of advice on their. Increase frequency of oil changes and use thinner oil as the car ages.
www.subaruhighmileageclub.com
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My 1984 Ford Laser Capri 1.6 did 255,000 miles before I scrapped it.
Same engine, gearbox, back axle, alternator, VV carb (must be a record!), starter motor.
During this time it had 3 Batteries, one clutch (at 165,000), one set of shock absorbers all round, four complete exhaust systems, several sets of front brake pads, one pair of discs, three pairs of rear brake cylinders, and the same of rear shoes. One pair of track control arms, two radiators.
It was the "New" LRP petrol which ended it's life. It burnt out a couple of the valves, and I never did get around to putting the head back on and fixing it. A great pity!
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Late last year whilst working in Stockholm, I took a ride in a nine month old Volvo V70 D5 auto taxi with 187,500 km (Just over 116,000 miles) on the clock.
This equates to some 13,000 miles per month! I asked the cabbie "How come?", to which he replied that the car is driven in shifts by a number of drivers, and utilisation exceeds 20 hours per day.
The previous car that he drove at work was a Volvo 740 that had clocked up over 800,000 miles by the time that his son purchased it from the business to run as the family hack!
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Is still find it hard to believe that John went to the trouble (or paid someone else to!) of changing the belt tensioners and didn't spend an extra tenner on a new belt, but each to their own. There will always be exceptions to the rule, but as far as cambelts go, this is likely to be a very exteme one! The belt went on my sister's AX last Christmas - the belt was only 4 years and 30k old (but I didn't strip it down, so don't know if it was due to the belt or a seized tensioner or water pump).
Back to the original, provided the car continues to prove reliable enough for your needs, the cost of an occasional repair is dwarfed by the cost of a new car...
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Is it illogical? It must be Citroen....
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Back to the first post - why not phone mg rover, im sure they will be very interested in your vehicle and its condition.
(will help with design and research).
also, you will give a dying british car maker a boost!
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An extract from an earlier thread.
"The taxi driver explained that it is quite normal for several drivers to share the same cab, and for ultilisation to be of the order of 20 hours a day. As an aside, I'm convinced that it's because of this, and that the engine never gets properly cold, that they last for such intergalactic mileages."
I think the above statement is the key long lasting engines. My brother runs a taxi firm in UK and with 2 or more drivers using the same car it is not unusual for Mondeos and Vectras to cover 400k or more without any trouble from the engine. His current Mondeo has done over 300K without any attention to the engine and a Nissan he owned did over 600K.
However as had been said many times on this site, the cost of keeping older cars on the road is rarely due to engine wear problems. Most go to their automotive grave with perfectly serviceable engines."
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