do journalists, or 'business correspondents' earn good money -
or to put it another way, why would anybody reading the business telegraph need to be told 'dropping the price (by a mooted 1000 pounds) could eat into rover's profit margin
you have to get out of the car sometime
so visit www.mikes-walks.co.uk
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Interesting bit:
Kevin Howe, MG Rover's chief executive, warned at the Birmingham Motor Show in May that the CityRover was struggling. He said: "Since we launched the car, some new product has come on the market that has raised the bar."
Talking of the new Fiat Panda I assume?
But basically an explicit admittal 'a new product has come along which is better than ours'
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shurely shome mishtake - the market was full of better products before they brought the cityrover to the market
you have to get out of the car sometime
so visit www.mikes-walks.co.uk
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If they lower the price and tighten up on the cabin quality then it stands a chance. Afterall the Metro was always a pretty dire car, particularry the pre 1990 models (before the K series models came along).
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If they lower the price and tighten up on the cabin quality then it stands a chance. Afterall the Metro was always a pretty dire car, particularly the pre 1990 models (before the K series models came along).
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Now here's a car that I'm glad exists now that we no longer have Lada and FSO to laugh at.
Whoopie do it's got a 1.4 that pumps out nearly as much emmissions as a Honda 2.0 VTEC. And it does 30mpg.
The interior ergonomics and quality is from decades ago.
Admitedly I have not driven one, in fact I am quite looking forward to it in a perverse way.
In all honesty it is actually a perfect car for it's target market- the 'Keeping Up Appearences' type of buyer.
Oh and should I mention the Rover 'Streetwise'? I've just wet myself lauging...
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tins is doing the base model solo for £4999 www.tins.co.uk
the city rover has a parts shortage. some with very minimal accident damage have been put in the brakers at cat d & c.
im tempted to get a mid-spec one, but it isnt worth more than 5.5k new - if i could get one for around 5 i would buy one tommorrow.
yeah, its basic - but a guy my size who struggles in most super mini's, the space is very helpful.
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Oh dear,Just read all the disparaging remarks on the City Rover AFTER I had ordered the \'select\' model.
Have already chosen the Reg.number,and is now probably with dvlc Swansea.
Is it too late to change the deal for something else more favourable,is that possible even,or have I made the biggest mistake of my motoring life?
Is there a legal \'cooling off\'period involved here?
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The problem with this car does not like with the vehicle itself. It lies with the management thinking it could slap a Rover badge on anything with wheels and it would sell.
Well, things have moved on. It is not the 1970s anymore when we were inflicted with dire offerings like the Marina, Maxi, Allegro. Even the most budget conscious motorists want a little bit of street cred and unfortunately the CityRover has absolutely none ? not that the other MGR brands have much more.
The CityRover will most likely shed 70 ?80% of its value in the FIRST year ? that is truly an horrendous proposition for any car buyer.
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Well over at the top gear web site its only worth 25% after 4 months:
www.topgear.com/content/my_topgear/write_turns/200.../
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Oh dear,Just read all the disparaging remarks on the City Rover AFTER I had ordered the \'select\' model. Have already chosen the Reg.number,and is now probably with dvlc Swansea. Is it too late to change the deal for something else more favourable,is that possible even,or have I made the biggest mistake of my motoring life? Is there a legal \'cooling off\'period involved here?
Oooops.
Sadly there is no such cooling off period for cars unless it comes under the distance selling regulations. At best you would lose your deposit. At worst, the dealer would sell the car on as a one-owner car and sue you for the shortfall. I regret the latter is more likely than the former. There is some middle ground. Dealers are able to pay the DVLA to de-register a car within a short period of registration.
It may be worth talking to the dealer first thing this morning but I don't see them backing down.
No Dosh - Backroom Moderator
mailto:moderators@honestjohn.co.uk
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Out of interest, what made you decide to buy a Cityrover?
Did you test drive different models?
If you've checked what cars you like, and this is the one for you, what does it matter what everyone elses opinion on here is?
If, two years ago, I'd come on here and asked whether I was right to be buying an Alfa 145 I'm pretty sure the majority would have said no way, and if I'd followed their advice I'd have missed out on the best car I've ever owned.
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No Dosh.Thanks for that info.As a result I think I,ll have to bite the bullet and go through with it.
BazzaBear.
The 1.4 engine size and the \'Select\' spec.seemed good value. I didn\'t test others,as wife and I were taken up with \'Special offer\' advert in local Free press. To us it looks a smart little car,as we take another couple with us on days out,1.4 engine seemed ideal for the task. Never owned \'new\' in my life (68)and thought it would see me out or \'off\' depending on your point of view. I suppose the best opinions are from those people who drive them,rather than any one else. I wonder if HJ can be more positive?
Thanks for all the comments,much appreciated.
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It is not ugly to llok at by any means - i guedss what annoys people is the high RRP price.
if it had a tata badge on it and was selling for 5 grand then we ould all be welcoming another car manufacture trying to break into uk sales and bringing in more competition.
BTW - 4/5 months ago tata announced a face lift and re-design of the car - any news when its coming out and will it be in rovercity form?
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>>No Dosh.Thanks for that info.As a result I think I,ll have to
bite the bullet and go through with it.
In the long run it might be cheaper to loose deposit and other costs because the MPG is very poor (20 MPG less than a Picanto) and the servicing is every 6000 miles. If a getz cost £5600 with 3 years servicing, then this would save thousands in the long term costs. Or perhaps they might do you a deal on the Rover 25 (still not great but better than a city rover).
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why would it need a 6,000 mile service?
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According to Auto Express, Rover are in talks with Tata to reduce the price by £1000 due to sales not being as good as expected.
Not good news for the people who paid full price for one; their resale price will fall even further.
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This is worse than the weather!
I paid £6k for the \'select\'which is £1585 off the original,plus trade in £800 \'saving\' £785.
I suppose you can go on forever debating the pro\'s and cons but what\'s done is done.Just hope it turns out ok,should be alright for 7/8k miles a year surely?
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I saw my first today............having a tow on a bar from an RAC Transit...I kid you not!
PP
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Aha! So that\'s why you get AA service free for the first year.
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How much of a deposit did you pay? Sorry to 'rain on your parade' but if the motoring press reviews are correct then the CityRover isn't that great. See HJ's car-by-car breakdown for the CityRover on the menus to the left.
You can get a 5 door 1.3 Toyota Yaris from www.drivethedeal.com for £7921 on the road.
Or a 1.3 5dr GSI Hyundai Getz for £6512 on the road with a 5 year warranty and 3 years free servicing from the same place.
Or a 1.25 5 door Ford Fiesta with aircon for £7777
Or a 1.1 5dr Kia Picanto LX for £5952
Or a Fita Panda 1.2 Dynamic with aircon for £7000
etc. etc. etc.
Point is there are lots of good 5 door hatchbacks available in the £6000 to £8000 price range.
Do you have a good relationship with the Rover dealer? If you feel he'd just keep your deposit (assuming it's not that big)and let you walk away then perhaps you can be totally honest. On the other hand if in any doubt perhaps you could indicate that you can't afford the car anymore due to some unspecified financial difficulties....
Probably best not to post too many details of the specifics of your deal in case the dealer reads this forum!
Best of luck...
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My sincerest aplogies - I didn't realise that your deal was so far down the line. If you do take delivery just remeber to give it the once-over very carefully before handing over your cash.
Good luck!
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No need to apologise Martin,thanks for your observations and
concern.
As you suggest,i'm well down the line now,arranged ins.today.
I will definitely give it a good check out before paying and
leaving the premises.
I did read HJs report,however I feel there hasn't been enough
feedback from owners.One Swallow doesn't make a summer.
Seems like I will have to be in the vangaurd that reports back.
Cheers.
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Any ownership experiences you can feed back to us would be gratefully received.
All the best in your new motoring venture,
No Dosh - Backroom Moderator
mailto:moderators@honestjohn.co.uk
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Will do.......and thanks.
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Dry Bearings,
A small observation. There is no need to press the return key at the end of every line of your text. When you reach the end of a line, the text auto wordwraps to the next line.
DD.
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Definitely an RAC van in orange, not a yellow AA van, I'm not colour blind you know!
PP
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i think perfectpeter has a MG rover grudge.
did you used to own a rover 800?
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ooh nooooo, not likely, like the General Belgrano those things, wallowing about!
No grudge, just adding to the post with what I'd seen.
Not much fun seeing any brand new car being recovered.
PP
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Looks as though the Indian-made CityRover hasn't been selling at all well ...
According to today's FT "India's Tata motors will consider pulling out of its troubled partnership with MG Rover of the UK if current talks fail to resolve differences over the price and market positioning of the Tata-built CityRover car."
"CityRover sales have been so poor that Tata suspended exports earlier
this year. At the launch of the partnership, the two sides spoke of sales of 100,000 cars over five years."
"The disappointing UK performance has led to a build-up of inventory of export-bound vehicles. Superficial changes for the UK market, such as
trim, make the cars unsuitable for sale in India."
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I don't think I've seen any CityRovers yet, maybe one but I can't remember.
This prompts the thought that if MG Rover had continued producing the Rover 100, based partly on the 1980 Metro, they would probably still be selling more of them than they are CityRovers!
Cheers, B55
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I saw my first Cityrover on Monday and about 5 minutes later my first Streetwise (?) thing.
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Haven't seen one for weeks and weeks or driven one ever (thankfully!)
Maybe a special edition should be introduced to boost sales,
I suggest the 'Bay City Rover' full of seventies cool kit...
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I saw a City Rover recently and it was upholding all that we associate with Rovers. It was on the back of a recovery vehicle.
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I saw a City Rover recently and it was upholding all that we associate with Rovers. It was on the back of a recovery vehicle.
So they pushed the Alfa off into a ditch to make room then.
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