All,
Sat in one of the indoor open spaces in work is a 1934 Duesenberg J555 Phaeton Tornadoe (or something like that).
I've had a look around on t'internet, but can't find any information on this car. Having been led to believe it's worth a lot of cash - I'm interested to know more about it.
Does anyone here have any knowledge of them?
Many thanks, as always.
DB
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That might be because it should be spelt Duesenberg.
Plenty on Google with this spelling.
Hawkeye
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That might be because it should be spelt Duesenberg.
But that's how he has spelt it.
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Was having a dyslexic keyboard day ...
Hawkeye
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"That might be because it should be spelt Duesenberg."
Before I get flamed; absolute rubbish. Sorry.
But Google finds entries on both spellings.
Hawkeye
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dial 72292 and I'll tell you.
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Saw one at the National Motor Museum at Beaulieu about 20 years ago.
Very very expensive in their day with pigskin upholstery and silver plated bumpers and huge engines.
Company only lasted a few years.
HTH
Charles
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However it is spelt, there is one in the Haynes Mueseum at Sparkford. There is also a V12 Packard, the latter a bit less flamboyant in styling, but both are stunning pieces of motoring history!
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I seem to recall that one was used in the 007 movie 'Goldfinger'. Odd Job was the chauffer.
H
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>>Company only lasted a few years.<<
1919 to 1937, according to Beaulieu. But the J (and SJ) models were indeed only made from 1928. The twin cam straight 8 was good for 250 horses (J) and a fair amount more for the blown SJ.
Makes the Blower Bentley and perhaps even the SSK Merc seem a little anaemic. Perhaps some doubt about the chassis.
Rudolf
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I seem to remember seeing one on the display ground at Beaulieu or 'Balloo' as SWMBO calls it. Huge old motor.
IIRC Marlene Deitrich was reputed to have owned one and the pretty young lady driving this monster was dressed accordingly in 1940's movie star outfit.
I remember it particularly because she found a wrap around skirt is not the best thing to wear when descending from a Duesenberg and more was displayed on the display ground than intended...
As a gentleman of course I averted my eyes immediately...
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Found your old thresd about this car. My dad bought it last year.
Claire
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And.......
come on tell us more.....
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Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
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My dad collects cars got around 50 or so, no lambos though. Vintage Bentleys, delages, W O Bentleys prototype V12 Lagonda for Le Mans, xk12o, c type, d type replica, mercedes, etc etc. He swaped a Daimler Double six Corsica (the only one in the world) to get the Duesey.
Claire
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If I wasn't married.......
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Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
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Wondered where DieselBoy sat in it??
Claire
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Come and get yours.....
www.prewarcar.com/searchresults.asp?make=Duesenberg
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Looked at link thanks. Look much better in the flesh though!
Claire
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In the flesh is OK for people - cars look better in the metal IMHO! The Duesenberg, being an item of style and sophistication became the origin of the American phrase used to describe anything outstanding, as in "Its a Doozy"
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I've just finished reading the superbly illustrated and produced book, The Art of the Sports Car (The Greatest Designs of the 20th Century), written by Dennis Adler.
Duesenberg is, of course, featured with the beautiful boattail Speedster designs, particularly with bodies by the Walter M Murphy Company of Pasadena, the SJ Speedster from coachbuilder Weymann and the 1931 J Sportster which was bodied in France by Joseph Figani.
In 1928 the new Duesenberg-built 420cu in straight eight engine developed 265bhp at 4,200rpm and a supercharged version launched four years later offered 320bhp.
Every Model J could accelerate to more than 100mph regardless of engine displacement or number of cylinders, to 125mph if it had lightweight speedster coachwork and cruise "effortlessly" up to 89mph in second gear; the engine had dual-overhead cams and four valves per cylinder, still features of today's cars.
Some other American designs proved just as stunning between the wars, including Packard's 734 boattail model.
But one of the most interesting cars detailed in the book is the Jacques Saoutchik bodied Dubonnet of 1938 on behalf of Andre Dubonnet, a sporting car driver and holder of several rece records (his grandfather Jean created the famous aperitif) who designed a number of models.
Its aerodynamic body had doors which swung out and were then slid rearwards close to the bodywork to gain entry and entrance.
So there's nothing new under the sun from France it would seem, Peugeot (1007!)
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Several Duesenbergs are on display at The Autocollections museum / dealership, at the Impreial Palace Casino, on the Las Vegas strip.
www.autocollections.com
Visiting this place was a highlight of my first trip to Vegas, and is a must-see for any car enthusiast who visits the city.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_XJ#Daimler_Corsica_co...t
According to this the Corsica is owned by Jaguar....
Andy
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The link you refer to to is about a new Corsica, My fathers was 1931 Daimler double six 50 corsica which was the only one.
Claire
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He sounds a very lucky man...:-)
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I asked my Dad and he said the Duesenberg was sat in the foyer of MBNA for about a year, so i guess thats where Dieselboy sat in it.
Claire
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Hi Stuart
Is the book worth getting, very short on Duesenberg literature.
Managed to get him the model j owners manual from ebay.
Claire
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>>Is the book worth getting, very short on Duesenberg literature.>>
Not really as it covers a vast range of sports cars, of which the Duesenberg section is but a "small" part although giving details of the company's history and vehicles.
If you look up these numerous Google links you'll find plenty of information about Duesenberg and could always print them off as required:
tinyurl.com/cl3ov
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There are a couple at the National Automobile Museum in Reno, NV.
www.automuseum.org/
It's a really great day out--we were in there 5 hours and didn't notice we'd missed lunch. The utterly bonkers 1913(?) Stutz Bearcat was my favourite.
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Owners of the rivai (equally tasty) Mercer Raceabout used to say 'you must be nuts to drive a Stutz'...
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What surprised me seeing it was the size. I expected Bentley proportions but the Bearcat is about the length of a Ford Focus (without a boot) and still weighs in at two tonnes. If I recall it had a 6 litre engine and could manage 90-odd mph on its cart springs. This says a lot for the engine, because aerodynamic it is not. And that circular windscreen is just weird.
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" I asked my Dad and he said the Duesenberg was sat in the foyer of MBNA for about a year, so i guess thats where Dieselboy sat in it."
Correct!
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