Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - HJ Editor

Closure of Forum for New Postings from 30 September 2025

Hello all. We have some bad news. As of the 30th September 2025, the HJ Back Room Forum forum will close to new postings.From that date onward, it will remain available as a read-only archive.

This decision has not been taken lightly, but it is a direct consequence of the Online Safety Act and the new regulatory obligations it introduces for online platforms, including forums such as ours.

The Online Safety Act places extensive legal requirements on operators of online services to monitor, moderate, and remove a wide range of content, while also introducing severe penalties for non-compliance. These measures include:

  • Active content monitoring: We would be required to proactively scan all posts for potentially harmful or illegal content, not just respond to reports. This necessitates costly automated tools and constant human moderation that a small business like ours simply cannot afford.
  • Verification of user identity: The Act imposes strict rules around age assurance and identity checks to prevent minors from accessing certain types of content. Implementing such systems securely involves substantial technical, legal, and data protection complexities far beyond our current resources.
  • Liability for user content: Forum operators can now be held legally accountable for harmful material posted by users, regardless of intent. This means that even well-moderated, community-driven platforms face significant risk from a single inappropriate post.
  • Compliance reporting and oversight: The Act mandates regular audits, detailed risk assessments, and formal compliance reporting to regulators, further adding to the administrative and financial burden.

While the objectives of the legislation - to make online spaces safer - are understandable, its practical effect is to impose regulatory standards designed for large social media platforms onto small, niche communities.

For large tech corporations with dedicated compliance departments and advanced AI moderation tools, these requirements are challenging but achievable, but for business like ours, the cost of compliance is simply prohibitive.

We explored every option, from outsourcing moderation to upgrading our platform infrastructure, but the reality is that meeting these requirements would not be financially sustainable. Continuing to operate under the new law would expose us to significant legal and financial risk.

We know how much this forum means to many of you. It has been a place to share expertise, seek advice and connect with like-minded individuals. While it will no longer be possible to post new content, the forum will remain online in an archived, read-only form, ensuring that the wealth of information it contains is preserved for future reference.

The Back Room Forum has helped countless numbers of car buyers and owners over the years thanks to the efforts of all of you. We want to thank each and every member for all you have done and we hope you understand this decision we didn't want to take, but ultimately had to.

We'd also like to take this opportunity to thank the moderators - Roger (Xileno) and Mansel (Leaseman) for all their hard work and efforts over the years in ensuring the Forum had such a good community.

Thank you. The HJ team.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Xileno

Certainly sad although understandable. The end of an era. I think I first washed up on these shores in 2002.

I would also like to thank ORB for the time we worked together, plus of course the late Avant who in many ways set the tone for the moderation, which we tried to follow.

Finally, many thanks to all those who contributed their knowledge, advice and opinions. It's the contributors that make a forum.

Best wishes to all.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - leaseman

May I add my hearty thanks to all contributors over these many years of the Forum's existence.

Most of my short tenure as Xileno's "apprentice" has indeed been most educational, entertaining and pleasurable......with a few exceptions when we have been under attack from groups of spammers and spoilers. I thank Xileno for his guidance and shared philosophies.

But...Hey Ho .. times and legislation change. Let us hope that the wisdom and knowledge exhibited on the Forum remains of great help to future visitors, who will not, of course, be able to pose new questions, but will be able to access the solutions and answers archived.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Andrew-T

Can't add anything worthwhile to the comments above, other than to agree with all of them. I have also been around for perhaps 20 years, probably poking my nose in more than necessary, but as has been said, the site may have lasted longer than we expected a few years ago.

So we have only a few days left .... :-(

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Metropolis.
What a pity. Whilst I don’t often post I do log back in from time to time and have got so used to other member’s writing styles I can usually recognise who is posting before I see the username.

All the best everyone, and thanks Xileno, Leaseman, the late great Avant and others for your time and effort which as I understand it has been entirely voluntary.

Farewell, and if any of you will be migrating to another forum perhaps mention it on this thread.
Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Orb>>.

Well. It has been fun for the past 15 years or so.

I have enjoyed the comments and some of the criticism over the years.

Perhaps we'll meet again on the "Other " forum.

Best wishes to All.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Metropolis.
What is the other forum?
Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Orb>>.
What is the other forum?

It was an offshoot.

C A R 4 p l a y all one word should find it no spaces..

If they survive too...

Edited by Orb>>. on 25/09/2025 at 14:08

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Adampr

What a pity. I'm relatively new here, but have enjoyed my time a great deal. I was unwell when I joined and looking for something to do through the long hours of 'house arrest'. Since then, I've learned a lot and enjoyed getting to know many of the characters here.

The reasoning is understandable and I think we all thought the end was coming in any case. Still an unwelcome shock that it has.

Thanks to all who have kept the forum running and largely spam free for so many years.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - movilogo

What a sad news!

It seems now only big American tech companies can control everything. Monopoly game in real life.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - percy

As a long time lurker...

I have greatly enjoyed reading and learning from the forum since the early days.

Sad to see it end like this.

With many many thanks to the mods and the experienced useful replies and advice from the learned contributors.

I wish a thankyou and good luck to all.

Percy

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - tim10597

That’s a real, shame. I’ve been a long time reader, and occasional contributor. Many thanks to all the moderators over the years and also to everyone who has commented on threads I’ve posted. The knowledge I have picked up on this site has been invaluable.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - nellyjak

Shame...a sad loss...but many thanks to all involved in helping keep this site alive as long as they could. I'm not an avid contributor but I'll miss my daily read here.

Edited by nellyjak on 25/09/2025 at 14:17

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - paul 1963

Oh dear! My mornings just won't be the same..

Thanks mods and regulars, I'll truly miss you, see you on the other side.

Regards Paul

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Terry W

The damage done by some social media needs to be addressed. Imposing rules intended to eliminate content that is grossly offensive (drugs, abuse, bigotry, violence etc etc) is to be applauded but probably not wholly achievable anyway.

Largely ignored in forming legislation is the social impact on smaller groups brought together through common interest - not just motoring but all that is reasonable and decent from art to zoology (includes cookery, sewing, woodwork, stamp collecting etc etc etc).

Despite occasionally making somewhat provacative posts, my thanks go out to the rest of the HJ community for their general tolerance, and the moderators in particular for what may be a thankless task at times.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - gordonbennet

Thanks to all who made it viable and made it work over the years and thanks to the mods and posters of present and past times.

Anyone who thinks the country formerly known as Great Britain is still the free country us boomers enjoyed (and loved) should be having another think or two, senior politicians making laughable claims about free speech when in practice the net tightens gradually an anyone who dare stray from the approved narrative of the day, who would have thought a motoring forum like this should have to worry about falling foul of the new apparatchiks.

This is not about protection of children and the so called vulnerable, the state has no standing when it comes to such matters, its about the quelling of alternative views being aired in places not under state control.

I'll quite understand if you feel the need to delete this post, we all know it isn't the fault of the owners of this forum, who quite reasonably need to protect themselves, as we all may have to before long.

Good fortune everyone in whatever you do..

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - edlithgow

Thanks to all who made it viable and made it work over the years and thanks to the mods and posters of present and past times.

Anyone who thinks the country formerly known as Great Britain is still the free country us boomers enjoyed (and loved) should be having another think or two, senior politicians making laughable claims about free speech when in practice the net tightens gradually an anyone who dare stray from the approved narrative of the day, who would have thought a motoring forum like this should have to worry about falling foul of the new apparatchiks.

This is not about protection of children and the so called vulnerable, the state has no standing when it comes to such matters, its about the quelling of alternative views being aired in places not under state control.

I'll quite understand if you feel the need to delete this post, we all know it isn't the fault of the owners of this forum, who quite reasonably need to protect themselves, as we all may have to before long.

Good fortune everyone in whatever you do..

I'd have to agree. Sounds very much like the effect is the suppression of free speech, whatever the intention, and it coincides unpleasantly with the appalling developments across the Atlantic

Also coincides with my impending move back to the UK. I'll have to see if I can do anything to maintain my Taiwan residentcy rights in case things get worse there, as the polls suggest they might. Think its 6 monthly returns though which would get expensive.

Motoring-wise, the forum is less relevent to me (and vice versa) because I no longer have a car, but I'll still miss it.

Thanks all.

Edited by edlithgow on 26/09/2025 at 02:51

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Metropolis.
Ed I have particularly enjoyed your posts and how you go about your motoring travails. I’d stay in Taiwan if I were you. I’ve only been there on holiday but what a place!

Thanks for the interesting posts, hope that you sign up to the other forum c*******

Metropolis
Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Hugh Watt
Ed I have particularly enjoyed your posts and how you go about your motoring travails.

Seconded.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - quizman

I'm sorry that this is happening, I don't know how I will manage without John F's advice on how to save money!

We have now the most vindictive government ever and I worry about our country's future. How can this happen to a decent forum?

I now own a BMW 5 series diesel. It does 55 mpg, is 10 years old and is a lovely car.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - De Sisti

We have now the most vindictive government ever and I worry about our country's future. How can this happen to a decent forum?

I now own a BMW 5 series diesel. It does 55 mpg, is 10 years old and is a lovely car.

You have quickly forgotten abour recent Tory governments.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Engineer Andy

We have now the most vindictive government ever and I worry about our country's future. How can this happen to a decent forum?

I now own a BMW 5 series diesel. It does 55 mpg, is 10 years old and is a lovely car.

You have quickly forgotten abour recent Tory governments.

True, and to be fair, it was they who specifically conceived of (and, seemingly, just as big a fan of it as Labour now are) the dreaded Online Safety Act, but IMHO sneakily left it to the current government to take the plunge in enacting it so they get more of the blame.

Both acts don't reflect well on the vast majority of politicians in Parliament, of any hue, given few there (including those who left parliament at / just before the 2024GE) pushed back against it to any significant degree.

What I find surprising is that those running the C4P forum - one which is far, far more political (and in one direction IMHO, with not much discussion on motoring issues) than this ever has been have deemed they are able to provide and fund the means necessary to comply with the Act when it has no funding as far as I can see, and yet HJ cannot.

I suspect there was far more behind the decision to close this forum than the OSA requirements, though I suppose HJ has more to lose financially if 'complaints' were made to the authorities, given those running C4P would likely just close it down as soon as they became the target of any meaningful OSA-based 'investigation'.

This, in my view, is precisely the reason why the OSA was passed in the first place - to stop the 'little guy' discussing things the powers-that-be want suppressed, but without needing the Old Bill knocking on doors, which is very negative publicity for them and what certain social media platforms finally admitted doing on behalf of government, as we've seen of late.

Authoritarian 'leaders' (and those in cahoots / controlling them) often resort to ever more control in order top keep their positions, because the public start to find out what they've been up to on many fronts over the decades and begin to increasingly push back once conditions in society begin to get really bad, especially for the 'normies' and better off.

Whether enough people realise this in time or ever care to make a difference before things get Communistic / 1930s Germany bad, I don't know. Pretending it ain't that bad and acting like the proverbial frog in water of increasing temperature by just moving to a (IMHO) far lesser site is just putting off being boiled by a short time.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Xileno

Significant differences: C4P is only a forum, HJ is a money-making site with a forum tacked on. Far more people read the HJ forum than contribute, I think because we are (soon to be were...) a small number of contributors, it's easy to glance over that.

HJ will have reviewed the site click through rate - how many people who view the Backroom then go on to look at the rest of the site and what impact that has for site hits and ad revenue etc. They will have looked at those figures in the light of what it would cost both in terms of money and time to comply with the OSA.

Also HJ allows photos to be uploaded in some forums whereas C4P doesn't. Although I assume that would be quite easy to disable but still time for someone to make the change.

It is quite simply a Cost Benefit Analysis situation. C4P can hardly close their forum. Well I suppose they could but then they would have nothing left!

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Engineer Andy

Significant differences: C4P is only a forum, HJ is a money-making site with a forum tacked on. Far more people read the HJ forum than contribute, I think because we are (soon to be were...) a small number of contributors, it's easy to glance over that.

HJ will have reviewed the site click through rate - how many people who view the Backroom then go on to look at the rest of the site and what impact that has for site hits and ad revenue etc. They will have looked at those figures in the light of what it would cost both in terms of money and time to comply with the OSA.

Also HJ allows photos to be uploaded in some forums whereas C4P doesn't. Although I assume that would be quite easy to disable but still time for someone to make the change.

It is quite simply a Cost Benefit Analysis situation. C4P can hardly close their forum. Well I suppose they could but then they would have nothing left!

But that's what many forums are doing - they aren't funded by subscription and few have any meaningful income from ad revenue (I seriously doubt if C4P has either or much of the latter), so I'm presuming they are 'complying' via using a decent number of volunteers or few with lots of spare time, but who also who have money to burn to pay for its hosting and any related software services.

HJ is obviously a commercial enterprise, and probably the cost-benefit of the money spent on the forum's upkeep and possible outlay if OSA 'complaints' are made would likely have a reasonable impact on the overall site's financial viability.

I suspect, as others already have, that the forum declined in popularity over the years in line with the site overall, given car buying / owning is increasingly like buying a PC, home AV or kitchen appliance and less about 'nuts and bolts' and driving pleasure.

Subscription-free forums will likely be a thing of the past unless they are flooded with annoying ads that cannot be blocked, which in itself increasingly turns off users, as it likely did here.

I suppose much of the blame can be put upon the rise of Big Social Media for taking a lot of that revenue stream away (similarly for TV, newspapers and magazines, even ones that have gone mainly/completely online).

The problem also was that despite repeated warnings over many years, few people and businesses / organisations did much to push back and/or adapt to properly survive and thrive.

I don't think it helped that too many were more interested in 'not making waves' and 'managing decline' (even if they never admitted the latter) than defending proper free speech and good / ethical practice.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - FP

Very sad, and as has been pointed out, the HJ forum seems to be a casualty of zealous policing of the more troublesome areas of the internet.

It would be nice to think someone could be persuaded to open a forum similar in spirit to this one, which has always been a valuable source of knowledge of specific models of car and the technical and other issues they may have.

Discussions about EVs on here have been particularly informative.

The obvious place to transfer your attention is the "other place", and if the really well-informed members here show up there it will be to the benefit of all. However, the culture there is a bit different.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Brit_in_Germany

Thanks to all the mods over the years for the hard work they have put in keeping us in line and most of the spam out. Thanks to most, if not all, posters for the educational posts I have enjoyed reading over the last quarter century or so. Take care all, and drive safely.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Richard M

Sorry to learn about the closure of the forum. It has been an invaluable source of information and news. It is a shame that legislation designed to stop the worst of the internet shuts down sites like this that are of no threat. That is the trouble with catch all legislation, it takes out the good along with the bad. Hopefully there will be other sites that will continue. Many thanks to all the mods and others for their work.

RichardM

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Maxime.

Thanks to all. Mods past and present.

We have chosen 3 of our latest cars with the advice given here.

Bye from West Brom...

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Graham567

Very sad day for us all.Britain is now becoming a communist state where hurty words carry harsher sentences than actual violence. RIP England.It was nice being free while it lasted.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Ethan Edwards

Very sad day for us all.Britain is now becoming a communist state where hurty words carry harsher sentences than actual violence. RIP England.It was nice being free while it lasted.

Amen.

Isn't it odd the more restrictive and punitive laws they impose on us the more lawless our society becomes. They dont learn though. They keep repeating the same thing expecting a different result.

Meanwhile go read the 'Gulag Archipelago' a lot will resonate with todays Britain.

Ah well... So long and thanks for all your hard work.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Heidfirst

A sad, albeit not unexpected announcement although perhaps not for quite the reason that was predicted.

Thank you to HJ for providing the forum as long as it lasted, to the Mods that made it run smoothly (most of the time ;) ) & for the other users who shared their advice, experiences, humour etc.

For those of you with (or interested in) Toyotas there is a very good owners club forum run in the UK .

& I might investigate the "other" forum to see how that fares..

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - RickyBoy

Evening ...

... I haven't posted much in recent times, but, as stated by other contributors above – it's been a gas, and the advice from 'within' extremely informative/helpful/useful to me over the years.

The time and effort put in by the various moderators is/was very much appreciated – not a task that I myself could have undertaken!!!

Best to all ...

RickyBoy

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Chris M

Have to agree with most of what's been said up thread.

It's sad, but as has been speculated on the "other" site, perhaps it's a convenient way out for the new owners. There are already some contributors that post on both sites - some of them even keep the same name (I do)!

I hope to see some of you there as it would be a shame to lose the experience and expertise we have here. Thanks to the mods for keeping it civilised.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Big John

Oh dear sorry to hear.

As per Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - "So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish"

Thanks to all.

Edited by Big John on 25/09/2025 at 22:51

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - SLO76
Shame, I’ll miss it. I’ve enjoyed our wee motoring related discussions very much, and I hope we’ve helped a few people along the way. I’ve tried other motoring forums, but I’ve never really took to them. Too many “petrolheads” take umbrage when you suggest that buying a fifteen year old 530 diesel BM on four years of finance might be unwise. Best wishes to all the regulars and visitors, and thanks to the mods for your efforts at keeping us under control.
Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Ex Alfa mail

May I too add my thanks to all who provided such valuable insights over many years. May I give the doc a special mention, our E46 330Ci is still such fun.

I am not skilled enough to make many contributions but have been an avid reader since the early days. Good old Peter. He was a real character.

A question, will other forums face such an extinction event? If not, where exactly can we migrate to?

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Orb>>.

May I too add my thanks to all who provided such valuable insights over many years. May I give the doc a special mention, our E46 330Ci is still such fun.

I am not skilled enough to make many contributions but have been an avid reader since the early days. Good old Peter. He was a real character.

A question, will other forums face such an extinction event? If not, where exactly can we migrate to?

C A R 4 PLAY miss out the spaces..

For how long I don't know.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Xileno

Given that forums in general are not as popular as 10-15 years ago and also faced with 300 pages of tedious Legislation to plod through, I expect a lot of forum owners will decide it's just much simpler and safer to pull the plug.

Even small 'hobby' type forums get caught up in all this if they host user-generated content. It may be that their risk assessments show a low risk and therefore the compliance is lower but it still all needs to be done.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - badbusdriver

Sad state of affairs indeed.

But as others have said, it is maybe a surprise that the forum has kept going as long as it has since the possibility of it being closed was first mentioned. But it was fun (for the most part!) while it lasted.

All the best to moderators in particular (a thankless and unenviable position at times), other forum members and those behind the scenes.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Falkirk Bairn

Really sad to see things end.

I have been here since 2007 and enjoyed everything about the site, especially the Back Room.

In 2010 I was very ill and was up through most nights for many months and many hours. Lots of sites but HJ was one of the best.

Thanks to all who made it possible.

It's back to the "other place" where I would hope all of us will at least look and see if there is something there fill the void after Tuesday.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - catsdad

I will miss the forum.

It’s a bit like a virtual pub with the regulars and drop-ins providing info and amusement. I will now have to nurse my virtual pint elsewhere.

Thanks and good health to one and all.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - De Sisti

I suppose had I accepted the role of a moderator the tenure would have been very short-lived.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Stackman II

This is really sad news. I always look forward to spending a few minutes each day catching up with the Back Room.

Such a pleasure to engage with articulate like-minded individuals who offer their views and knowledge in a civilised setting.

I knew Avant IRL and he was always grateful to the regulars who gave so freely of their time and knowledge.

Many thanks to the current mods and best wishes to all who have made my days that little bit more interseting.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - groaver

Ach, that's a pity!

There's been some good topics over the years.

As Frank Sinatra used to sing, "doobey-doobey-doo."

No wait, "And so the end is near.."

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - corax

Shame. I was looking forward to more of madf's reports on his BMW i3, interspersed with posts about moles bringing up bits of bone in old graveyards.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - expat

Sorry to hear about the closure. I have been a member for about 25 years and have enjoyed reading it each morning. Many thanks to the moderators and to all the contributors. I shall try to join the other site but I cannot see it surviving the effects of this new legislation. Here in Australia they are bringing in a similar type of law and I will expect it to have similar effects. It will close down small hobby type forums and will drive the bad actors into the darker corners of the internet where they will happily ignore the laws.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - thecloser

Oh dear. That is a ball-acher of massive proportions. I used to be a regular contributor under the handle of 'Scouseford' and had many enjoyable debates about a variety of motoring subjects. I can't remember why I stopped debating (probably an 'age thing' but i continued to read what others had to say. I always thought that this was a site that attracted the more sensible contributor. Don't know what direction to take for sensible debate now. Are there any other motoring sites that attract the more balanced contribotor? Probably not.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Random

It's been a blast, thanks to all who've contributed both behind the scenes and up front.

Hope many, especially SLO, will still appear on the other site. So much good knowledgge should still be available.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Xileno

"Are there any other motoring sites that attract the more balanced contribotor? Probably not."

You could try 'the other place' c a r 4 p l a y, it seems to be more of a current affairs forum with minimal motoring content but if sufficient numbers go across that balance could change. Some people have always posted on both anyway.

Forums generally have been in decline for some years, quite a few of my old haunts (both motoring and other hobbies) have either closed or diminished to a trickle. I think this new legislation will be the final blow for some.

I might drift across at some point but having moderated here for 4.5 years pretty much seven days a week (with much appreciated help from ORB and leaseman) I am quite looking forward to a break :-)

Edited by Xileno on 27/09/2025 at 09:48

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Steveieb

I’m really going to miss the site when it closes . I visit it daily as I have done since the site started which was after we waited all week to read. HJs column in the Saturday telegraph.

HJ was able to pick out winners and losers and regularly the Honda Jazz was his car of choice. It was so easy in those days .

i also still have his book of motoring answers vol 1 and 2.

Edited by Xileno on 27/09/2025 at 21:43

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Andrew-T

i also still have his book of motoring answers vol 1 and 2.

I think I may still have all 4 (?) volumes, tho I have to admit I don't consult them. They are a gentle reminder of how things used to be ....

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Xileno

No speculation on why this decision has been made please, we have the reasons from the company. If people think other reasons are behind it then best kept private. Some of what was written is incorrect regarding financials. It's the forum that's been closed not the entire HJ site.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - John F

Just seen this (8hrs behind in California) - indeed sad news. I'll not take up space echoing others, but posting now mainly to thank the current mods and all other contributors. I have much enjoyed the debates over the past umpteen years. Avant must be turning, nay, red-lining in his grave.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - gordonbennet

As we watch the country we thought we knew disappearing probably forever once they get the long planned ID card of total surveillance they've been pushing, this little song might trigger some memories of better times.

Sandy Thom, I wish i was a punk rocker www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLyw7jytykE

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Andrew-T

We know how much this forum means to many of you. It has been a place to share expertise, seek advice and connect with like-minded individuals. While it will no longer be possible to post new content, the forum will remain online in an archived, read-only form, ensuring that the wealth of information it contains is preserved for future reference.

Thank you. The HJ team.

If, after D-day on Tuesday, all our contributions become frozen in an archive, I wonder how long that will last, if the advertising income which has kept it alive ceases because the audience is assumed to be drying up ?

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - gordonbennet

.

If, after D-day on Tuesday, all our contributions become frozen in an archive, I wonder how long that will last, if the advertising income which has kept it alive ceases because the audience is assumed to be drying up ?

When the excellent blogger the late Anna Racc*** (the smallish badgler animal found in the USA) passed on, one of her regular herd managed to save most but not all of her considerable output, this was possible by having her PC kindly donated for that purpose by her husband.

ARs investigations and output were somewhat different to the various ramblings of us here, her well researched posts on a certain notorious late celeb were revelatory/awakening.

I doubt our motoring discussions would interest many as the years go by..

Edited by gordonbennet on 28/09/2025 at 11:56

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Chris M

"I doubt our motoring discussions would interest many as the years go by."

I doubt our postings here are a gateway to immortality.

Good luck with the rustproofing GB ;)

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - gordonbennet

"I doubt our motoring discussions would interest many as the years go by."

I doubt our postings here are a gateway to immortality.

Good luck with the rustproofing GB ;)

Much obliged, will keep up the good work.

This HJ forum closure is the end of an era.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - veloceman
I have enjoyed browsing this forum for many years with the occasional contribution though less so more recently. The mods past and present have done a great job, it’s shame more red tape and legislation should bring about the end of the most easy going and generous forum I have come across.
When you look at the posts that appear on the likes of Facebook and Twitter etc it’s clear that the innocent and well meaners of our society suffer and those disrupters allowed to flourish. This forum has been nothing but polite and helpful and has to close yet the sexist, racist and homophonic comments of other sights carry on unpunished.
I have particularly enjoyed reading SLOs experiences on his moving over to the dark side and I think next time round I shall be there too.
Any way I shall wish all of you the very best of health and happiness for the remainder of 2025 and beyond - Happy motoring!
Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - SLO76
“ I have particularly enjoyed reading SLOs experiences on his moving over to the dark side and I think next time round I shall be there too”

Thanks. It’s a journey many will need to go through over the coming years, one I wasn’t entirely sure I’d be happy making at the start. My doubts disappeared pretty quickly as we adapted and thanks to a red light hopping taxi driver I was forced to experience the speed of EV evolution faster than we planned. The early cars are flawed, but newer cars with greater efficiency and range really can replace a conventional petrol or diesel car without much in the way of compromises. I’m sold.

All the best on your trip to the dark side!
Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Mike H

Sad news. I've been here for a large number of years (20+?), not contributing much recently, but dropping in on a daily basis. I can't get the same connection with the other site.

Best of luck and happy motoring everyone!

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - barney100

End of an era, I've really enjoyed the forum for many years.

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - KB.

Let's not forget there's always the Grumpy Old f***s Village Pub forum which still appears if you type something along the lines of .... The-GOF-Village-Pub. I can't be the only one to remember it starting up as a bit of an offshoot.

It looks like there's one or perhaps two entries for 2025 and a number in 2024. I couldn't remember when it struck off at a tangent from the mother ship but it looks like 2016. I was never sufficiently interested or "in the know" to recognize who the 're-named' contributors were in the original forum but it doesn't look as though all that many have hung around.

I have no idea how long stuff like that remains visible on the internet after it closes down - and indeed it might not have actually ceased to exist. Which just goes to show how little I know.


Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Xileno

As it's a free hosting, I assume it will stay there as long as the website author leaves it. Although possibly the host might be made aware of sites that haven't seen any activity for x months and then alerts the author it's going to be deleted to save some server space. From a user perspective, it looks like it's dead (last post six months ago)

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Mr Mc

Lads, thanks for all your help over the years, it’s been really appreciated. Great advice, common decency & respect. Particularly found SLO invaluable.

The recent proud owner of a Japanese NA petrol Mazda CX30 & personally recommended two other CX5s. Wonder where I got that idea from !!

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - SLO76

Lads, thanks for all your help over the years, it’s been really appreciated. Great advice, common decency & respect. Particularly found SLO invaluable.

The recent proud owner of a Japanese NA petrol Mazda CX30 & personally recommended two other CX5s. Wonder where I got that idea from !!

Many thanks, it’s been an absolute pleasure helping spend other people’s money. I hope that big Mazda serves you well.
Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - leef

Thank you everyone over the years who helped me and countless others. Thank you to all the mods over the years who've kept us spam free and given their free time up to keep things running. Will miss you all.

Lee

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - mord

Sigh, all good things must come to an end I suppose :-( Been lurking these parts since around 2007 when I was looking to buy my first car. I found the Good and Bad sections of HJ reviews to be refreshingly, ahem, honest, serving up information that was not easily found elsewhere and helping to seperate the gems from the bangers.

Whilst I wouldnt be a regular poster, being the introverted antisocial being that I am, I have very much enjoyed dropping in to read the ongoing motoring discussions and EV bashing mixed in with the odd conspiracy therory. A bit like a soap opera really. My lunchtime reading shall forever be a little duller.

Many thanks to everyone who made it all possible, and hopefully be seeing you again over in the other place.

Best regards,

M

Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - focussed
A bit of a forlorn goodbye from me, no more HJ no more c*******, thanks to all who worked to keep HJ going, I seem to remember starting out on HJ around 2002 or perhaps earlier.
See you all on Pistonheads maybe?

So it's good night and goodbye from focussed.
Closure of the HJ Backroom Forum - Car

Signed up over 20 years ago to forum after recommendation from my Dad., when at the time I was having an issue with my Rover 416 (HHR)

Always enjoyed reading HJ questions page in Sunday Telegraph

Thank you for everyones help over the years.

Ps Have signed up on the other forum as Car_Veh.

Edited by Car on 30/09/2025 at 07:41