used buying advice? 5 series, Lexus NX or others? - pete2000

Hi All, After a recent thread where I managed to finally rid myself of an exceptionally faulty Jaguar I-Pace I am hoping for any potential advice on a replacement. Budget of about 25k for ideally something approved used.

Key factors are reliability, years 2020+ (as those tend to have reasonable CarPlay compatibility), 40k miles or below, suitable for long drives and occasional family use. I’ve done my research and I have narrowed it down to a 5 series Diesel, or Lexus NX?

Are they decent choices or any I’ve missed? I’ve considered E Class but the left footrest is impeded somewhat for my big feet, and a Lexus ES which unfortunately hits my head at 6’4. A6 is Audi and from what I gather are probably as unreliable as Jags.

Appreciate any opinion if those 2 are a good choice, or perhaps any I have missed that have the reliable yet ‘name recognition’ aspect. Just want to drive a decent car for a few years while minimising headache risk.

1 slight concern is the rear wheel drive for Glasgow winters but perhaps I’m overreacting and most of the time won’t be on untreated roads or hills.

used buying advice? 5 series, Lexus NX or others? - RT

The Lexus NX is a Toyota RAV4 in a different dress - both can have 10-year warranties if they serviced at a franchised dealer

used buying advice? 5 series, Lexus NX or others? - pete2000

The Lexus NX is a Toyota RAV4 in a different dress - both can have 10-year warranties if they serviced at a franchised dealer

Thanks, yes that was the appeal of a Lexus, the warranty for a few years rather than buying separately. It just felt a touch 'cheaper' than the mid size saloons.

used buying advice? 5 series, Lexus NX or others? - PhilDS

Sounds like your preference is space and a decent badge?

There is the Skoda Superb Sportline/L&K which can come with a 2.0l petrol 280bhp 4x4 and is obviously spacious but less prestigious

Or a Volvo V60/XC60?

used buying advice? 5 series, Lexus NX or others? - Palcouk

You dont mention your annual mileage - I would avoid diesel unless +15K/year

The last 5 owned vehicles have all been Lexus, only annual service costs, no breakdowns.Mileage used o be +30k now retired less than 10k in last two years in my NX

used buying advice? 5 series, Lexus NX or others? - RT

You dont mention your annual mileage - I would avoid diesel unless +15K/year

The last 5 owned vehicles have all been Lexus, only annual service costs, no breakdowns.Mileage used o be +30k now retired less than 10k in last two years in my NX

Annual mileage can be misleading - it's quite possible to do lower than average annual mileage made of just long journeys - it's the journey pattern that's important.

used buying advice? 5 series, Lexus NX or others? - MGspannerman

I have had various "prestige" cars in my time before settling on a series of Lexota vehicles. Least reliable were Mercedes and Jaguar, the Volvos were good but expensive to service and the Audi was terrific, but I need an auto due to a foot issue and DSG gearboxes dont chime with me. However my choice these days is driven by comfort, reliability and safety moderated by the quality of the local dealer.

I am fortunate to have a very good Toyota/Lexus dealer nearby and, of course, reliability is excellent. I particularly like that Lexota stand by their vehicles. If there is an issue they put their hand up and address it rather than weasel their way around it and the warranty terms as some companies tend to do.

Within the family we have had at least half a dozen Toyotas and all excellent, I cant think of a significant issue with any of them. The Yaris we bought new is still being driven by our younger daughter. In its lifetime, apart from routine tyres/brakes/service costs, it has run up a bill of less than £600 - in 16 years.

I now have a Lexus NX. Understated admittedly and wont necessarily score in the driveway stakes next to a BMW or Mercedes. But very comfortable, even on a 10.5 hour, 425 mile drive to Dortmund last year. It regularly delivers 40mpg as well. Most of them are 4 wheel drive, but not in the Land Rover mud plugging sense of the term. Michelin Cross Climate tyres were the talk of the forum I looked at when checking it out, and had these fitted shortly after purchase. What a difference! Great tyres and 35k later still good. I now know why people were so enthusiastic. Hills wont be a problem in this vehicle.

I bought mine as a 2017 model, low mileage used vehicle. It has proved to be excellent after 3.5 years. Nothing required other than routine servicing. I love the car and later models have even more toys such as Apple Car Play and the wider display screen. The only thing I am not keen on is the mouse style controller for the ICE, the somewhat clunky satnav and the poor quality DAB reception. I gather later models have been updated. I think it is the sort of car you have to discover and drive to appreciate its advantages.

used buying advice? 5 series, Lexus NX or others? - badbusdriver

Given the OP's experience with the Jag, i'd have thought reliability should be absolutely the top priority. And if so, the Lexus would seem to be a 'no-brainer' to me!.

I am curious about the notion of comparing a 5 Series to a Lexus NX though. Surely the X3 would be a closer match to the NX?. I see the OP has already tried and discounted the Lexus ES which, otherwise, would be a closer match (size wise) to a 5 Series.

used buying advice? 5 series, Lexus NX or others? - pete2000
Thank you all for your responses especially the decent reviews of the Lexus.

In answer to some of the questions.
1) mileage is mixed usage with at least weekly long drives. 12k minimum up to 15k

2) I do like the high position but I discounted an x3 as I really wanted a Lexus but the ES didn’t fit. If it did I’d have gone for it.

So perhaps I’m trying to squeeze the Lexus in but I’ve always felt the mid size SUVs are a touch mum mobiles rather than dad mobiles with business driving. It’s not far off an Ipace in size but that’s why I included the NX as it is within budget and a consolation for the ES. I have experienced many courtesy cars with the Jag some of them rentals and the 5 series was decent albeit a 2022 model rather than 2021. I just don’t know much about reliability. I’ve always felt Audi was quite unreliable from word of mouth and with BMW being so common there is less reliance on a dealer and a local garage can help mitigate costs due to ease of parts etc. (unlike EVs which need dealers often).

The other advantage is Lexus having 4wd which is handy in Scotland. Seems a tough call. I saw a diesel genesis G80 advertised at a good price which may be an unconventional pick but I think it’ll be less easy to fix if anything goes wrong. Really appreciate the advice as I previously had a trusty civic prior to the Jag based on the advice here so I trust your opinions.

I think if I get a car to drive from 40k miles until 100k then sell most diesels should survive my usage. Performance is secondary to me compared to driver comfort as a tall guy on long drives and no headaches for reliability.