A Lot of Satnav systems in cars also have a TV built in. Does this require a TV license?
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Assume that car is covered by second cravan or mobile home.
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TV Licences for your second home, caravan or mobile home
Second homes
If you have a second home such as a cottage, flat, bungalow or any other permanent structure, you are required to have a separate TV Licence.
Mobile homes and caravans
If you or any other person uses a TV in your static caravan or mobile home and another is being used in your main home at the same time, you'll need a separate TV Licence.
However, if a TV isn't being used in your static caravan or mobile home at the same time as in your home, you don't need a separate TV Licence. In which case you'll just need to complete a declaration form (see below).
The TV Licence for your main address will, however, automatically cover any TV used in a touring caravan, vehicle or boat, or any televisions operated by their own internal batteries.
For more information, or a declaration form, phone 0870 241 6468.
Or you can write to the address below.
Personal information that you provide will only be used by the TV Licensing Authority (BBC and its service providers) to help administer the TV Licence system, including licence applications, fee collection and enforcement. Your personal information will not be provided to anyone else unless we are obliged by law to do so. If you wish to see our Privacy Policy, click here.
Customer Services
TV Licensing
Bristol
BS98 1TL
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I now have this image of a BMW 7 series with satnav and TVs being chased down the M4 by one of those old Commer detector vans, with the big array of aerials on the roof!!
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Dr Alex Mears
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I was told and therefore have always believed (!) that the detector vans was just disinfromation. How could a detector van pinpoint a TV in a block of flats/terraced houses etc...?
I was told that they go to the records and if a house has been buying a licence for years and then doesn't renew it then there is a fair chance that they are being naughty.
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How could a detector van pinpoint a TV in a block of flats/terraced houses etc...?
They have hand held detectors.
And now back to motoring.
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"How could a detector van pinpoint a TV.."
Because TV's with cathode ray tubes radiate a signal. In fact, computer screens can be 'read' at a distance by the same method, which blows a hole in most security measures, although none of this applies to LCD or plasma screens, which will make TV detection a lot more difficult in years to come! However, I gather from people without a TV that they have a lot of difficulty convincing the authorities that they are telling the truth!
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Indeed the radiated output of a CRT screen can be read. An important government ministry in London spent a large some of money on "tempested" PC's. They didnt radiate images (and supposedly could survive an EMP). Didnt stop some bright sparc standing on the railings. looking thro the window, and taking a piccy of the screen with a nikon..................
Motoring thread? errrrrrrrr His car was parked outside.
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LOL, RF! I learned recently that TV licensing is now run by Capita (aka Crapita) so it's not surprising that non-offenders are being hounded. What worries me about this thread is that someone there or in HMG will see it as another opportunity to fleece the motorist...
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As long as the BMW didnt go over about 60 the Commer might have a chance of catching it! Make that 40 if the chase involves bends of any kind ;)
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Yeah, but the BMW would get away when the Commer stopped for red lights... ;)
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As far as I'm aware, you only need a TV License for a TV that is plugged into a mains power supply unit - which you wouldn't with a SATNAVTV. Mobile homes are considered to be mains powered as they have 3 pin sockets usually, and are more often than not, plugged into some kind of mains supply, when not being driven.
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Thanks for all your responses. It was more intrigue, because i can imagine having a car with it (bet it'll be standard rather than an option within 10 years - bit like aircon used to be) in the future and can just see myself waiting on some high st whilst the GF is shopping and me watching telly, when some snoop taps on the windows and asks me if i have a license!
I dont see why they shouldnt be liable for a license. after all if you can watch the bbc on it why shouldnt you pay?!
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For the last world cup I bought a tiny little casio hand held TV from RS as they were doing a good deal. I purchased this through the company and a few weeks later the company recieved a summons for not having a TV license. We got out of it by saying the TV was a prize in a raffle and we had no idea who had won that prize.
Beware.
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Do you mean DVD player/Sat Nav set?
A driver is banned from using a TV receiving apparatus whilst driving on a road when he is in such a position as to be able to see, directly or by reflection a TV used to display othen than information:
On state of vehicle and equipment
Location and road upon which the vehicle is,
To assist a view of the road adjacent to the vehicle
Assist the driver to reach his destination.
MV Con and Use Reg 109 &1000 fine No Points
Unless of course picture is from other than on a cathode ray tube
on which there can be displayed an image derived from a TV Broadcast, recording, camera or computor.
Presumably therefore then plasma screens OK but doesn't that defeat the object of the legislation?
DVD
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I understand that if the TV screen can be seen by the driver, It has to be inactive (TV wise anyway) when the engine is running to pass type approval or C&U regs or somink like that.
Ref the TV detector vans. Detection is mostly done by computer. Post code/number combination with no license? just wander round with a hand held detector (you can use an am radio actually) and if its burbling away nicely - Loud knock on door, one fine, thank you. Famous case of a bloke who gets a knock on the door every month cos he has no TV, hence no license against that post code. They just dont believe he aint got a TV!
The days of the commer van with the large traffic cone thingy on top are long gone.
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No, i did mean a TV. they can be watched in cars when stationary.
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I actually called up TV Licensing and they told me that if I buy a car with a TV/satnav system, then I do not need to buy a licence. It will be covered under your main household licence.
Regards
Jonathan
Sometimes the best solution is the simplest.
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So if someone didn't have a TV at home but did have one in his camper van, he would need a licence? What address?
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Having driven (not owned !) BMWs and Mercedes´with the TV function fitted I do find it silly that the thing switches off when you start moving - have people never considered passengers. Even a Lexus has to be stationary to program the - sat-nav.
Is there an active after-market enabling owners to override the rules and use them ?
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