Top Gear-R.I.P. - simon saxton

I certainly do not agree with HJ et al concerning the resurrection of Top Gear as such & the thought of Clarkson & his style of Ghastly metaphors leaves me decidedly cold.Frankly I feel that it requires a good infusion of solid fact given by a team of people that are unbiased in their opinions,with qualified experience of the motor trade & assessment of cars.
Mike Brewer has the ability to reach many sections of the viewing public , he could surely be influential??

Simon
Re: Top Gear-R.I.P. - Marc
I thought that tall bloke he used to do "Deals on Wheels" with was quite good too
Re: Top Gear-R.I.P. - Andy Hale
I too was upset when I heard the news but it has to be said that the programme has lost something (not just Jeremy & Quentin) over the last year or so.
I'm fed up with expensive cars that only Sheik Mahomed can afford, I'm fed up with cars being dragged around a race track ad nauseum.
I just want normal cars for normal people and I want to know what they hold, whether they're comfortable, whether bits fall off them, whether they depreciate like mad and whether they stop and handle well. PLUS all the other bits about old cars, garage chains, finance companies, engineering specialists, bodywork repairers, motor sport (of all sorts).
As far as presenters are concerned please lose VBH her attitude is annoying and her voice more so. Lose the Scotsman he's almost as bad, Bring back the blonde from 2 years ago and Quentin and Jeremy and anyone who isn't just out of a pushchair!
Re: Top Gear-R.I.P. - Alvin Booth
Simon,
I agree with you completely. The only cars Clarkson liked to show were available to only about .0001% of the public. In a feature on Clarkson in one of those shiny drop outs from my weekend paper he said "I haven't really a clue about anything mechanical and don't even know what goes on under the bonnet". I liked the spiv Quenton though....
Alvin
Re: Top Gear-R.I.P. - The Growler
I heartily agree with other comments regarding this pathetic and superficial programme with its needless visual effects and penchant for hiring presenters who appear to speak as though they suffer some kind of impediment. Witness the nerd with the sump-oil grease hairdo. As for providing useful or even entertaining info the thing is a flop. Clarkson was a pompous self-important idiot and he seems to have set the tone for his successors. simon saxton wrote:
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> I certainly do not agree with HJ et al concerning the
> resurrection of Top Gear as such & the thought of Clarkson &
> his style of Ghastly metaphors leaves me decidedly
> cold.Frankly I feel that it requires a good infusion of solid
> fact given by a team of people that are unbiased in their
> opinions,with qualified experience of the motor trade &
> assessment of cars.
> Mike Brewer has the ability to reach many sections of the
> viewing public , he could surely be influential??
>
> Simon
Re: Top Gear-R.I.P. - The Growler
I heartily agree with other comments regarding this pathetic and superficial programme with its needless visual effects and penchant for hiring presenters who appear to speak as though they suffer some kind of impediment. Witness the nerd with the sump-oil grease hairdo. As for providing useful or even entertaining info the thing is a flop. Clarkson was a pompous self-important idiot and he seems to have set the tone for his successors. simon saxton wrote:
>
>
> I certainly do not agree with HJ et al concerning the
> resurrection of Top Gear as such & the thought of Clarkson &
> his style of Ghastly metaphors leaves me decidedly
> cold.Frankly I feel that it requires a good infusion of solid
> fact given by a team of people that are unbiased in their
> opinions,with qualified experience of the motor trade &
> assessment of cars.
> Mike Brewer has the ability to reach many sections of the
> viewing public , he could surely be influential??
>
> Simon
Re: Top Gear-R.I.P. - The Growler
I heartily agree with other comments regarding this pathetic and superficial programme with its needless visual effects and penchant for hiring presenters who appear to speak as though they suffer some kind of impediment. Witness the nerd with the sump-oil grease hairdo. As for providing useful or even entertaining info the thing is a flop. Clarkson was a pompous self-important idiot and he seems to have set the tone for his successors. >
Re: Top Gear-R.I.P. - honest john
Those of you who don't like Clarkson will never get the motoring programm you want unless it's on some minority digital channel for the simple reason it won't command an audience.

Clarkson singlehandedly revolutionised motoring journalism and made himself a mult-millionaire in the process. Good luck to him. If he hadn't most of us wouldn't be here at all. He got rid of the nerdish tedium that turns everyone who isn't into cars right off anyone who is. He gave us wit, style and a whole new line in metaphors. The man is a saint. Quentin is bloody good too. The BBC can't have Mike Brewer because they can't outbid Channel 4 for his services, and anyway he prefers Channel 4 because he doesn't get produced to death on it by BPC producers. But the BPC daren't try to make Clarkson politically correct. This means that the only way the Beeb can have a successful motoring programme with an audience of 3.5 to 6 million is to bring Clarkson and Quentin back.

HJ
Re: Top Gear-R.I.P. - Mark
Can't argue with that,

both Clarkson and Wilson did a lot to promote motoring and related topics in a way which made it interesting.

Both are an acquired taste but did drag motoring programmes out of the dark ages.

as ever

Mark
Re: Top Gear-R.I.P. - Bob Harris
Well said H J and Mark. Clarkson was original and had the guts to show his prejudices, including the Vectra! Quentin talked sense as well.

However I find Vicky BH trying so hard to be sexy, most irritating. She seems to think her motor cycle riding, opposite locking 'laddette' antics turns on all the male viewers - it doesnt for anyone I know. Her column on the Top Gear Website is even worse.
Clarkson and Quentin. - David Woollard
HJ is right.

Clarkson was very entertaining and refreshing with his "stuff the enviroment/anti-smokers/anything in his way attitude".

Quentin gives the impression he is letting you, but only you, into a secret to get the best deal on the planet.

Love em or loath em you won't get better for entertaining motoring TV.

David
Re: Clarkson and Quentin. - Jonathan
Hence the reason that any cars that Quentin promoted as being good value, or a well kept secret, would immediately go up in value for the following few weeks.

Jonathan
Re: Clarkson and Quentin. - Martin Wall

Andy Hale wrote:

> As far as presenters are concerned please lose VBH her attitude is annoying > and her voice more so. Lose the Scotsman he's almost as bad, Bring back
> the blonde from 2 years ago and Quentin and Jeremy and anyone who isn't > just out of a pushchair!

..that 'Scotsman' is actually from Nothern Ireland!!!
Re: Top Gear-R.I.P. - Miller
Top Gear is a shade of its former self nowadays, half of each show is taken up with reviews of cars almost nobody can afford to buy and/or run, that young bloke with the glasses (I can't even remember his name) is a hopless Clarkson wanabe, Needell is only good for driving sports cars around airfields sideways (a normal everyday motoring event for all drivers of course!) and VBH is a woman, need I say more?

Bring back the presenters from five years ago and devote the show to real world motoring issues and car reviews.
Re: Top Gear-R.I.P. - Mark (Brazil)
I don't know how current the Top Gear program I saw this morning is, but...

There was an article about the LPG conversion for the V8 Discovery. The segment was pretty content free, but seemed to be saying that it was a good idea.

They were talking about the cost of the conversion against the money saved on cheaper fuel.

However, the calculations assumed the fuel consumption was unchanged, and spoke only of the difference in price.

That's one of my questions. Is the fuel consumption the same ? Seems unlikely.

Also, the segment ignored the availability of LPG. How available is it in the UK ? As a point of interest, in Brazil and Chile EVERY Petrol Station has the stuff and an awful lot of cars use it. In Brazil this is because the petrol used to be of such appalling quality that it was tough to keep cars running.

However, in Chile it is an anti-pollution thing. That would be my other question. Does LPG pollute less ? And if so, is this because you use less of it, or because the emmissions are less harmful ?

M.
Re: Top Gear-R.I.P. - Michael
my understanding is that fuel consumption is worse, performance is worse, availability is patchy, you lose carrying space and i expect the government will raise the price of lpg to unleaded price once enough people convert. Diesel still the best bet, imho.
 

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