Morris 1000 saloon 4 door, has VIN number stamped into floor near NS door pilar. Due to rust in the seam, a section of the floor needs to be cut out and new material welded in. However, area to be cut out will take out first 4 to 5 didgits of the stamped VIN number. Can anyone please advise the legal/MOT situation, should those first few digits be removed?
Thank you. Pete. petel@clara.co.uk
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Can see some problems if the repaired vehicle was checked with numbers missing.
Take an Insurance policy out by having a word with the Stolen Vehicle Squad (C.10 they used to call it) of your local Plodship, or try asking the advice of DVLA by EMail and keep copies.
DVD
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DVD,
Something in the grey mists of my memory suggests that the local Police can authorise the re-stamping of a VIN plate in certain circumstances (in liason with the LVLO.)
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Doesn't the manufacturer have to get involved?
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I hope not!!!!
Rgds, Pete.
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I don't think so - that's why I asked DVD to support my fading memory, I have heard of this happening, it was after a client was stopped driving a car with a similar repair, his car (an XR3 at the height of their how can I say "popularity")was seized. The car's history was ok in fact and there followed some toing and froing which ended up with the VIN being re-stamped.....this is where memory fails, the makers were not involved though.
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Been racking my brain but like yours PU its all lost but seems to ring a bell. I know that in the old days that when you rebuilt a motor C.10 were informed when application was made to tax it then they made an inspection not only of the vehicle but invoices for the source of the parts. As you say I very dimly recall something about them verifying chassis no after repair which is why I suggested Pete contact C.10. But is he in Eire - Clara? which may have a different system.
DVD
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LVLO seems to be the answer.....usually staffed by enthusiatic people (no irony involved) who know their stuff. Ireland throws a giant spanner in the works though - I wonder if Pete will let us know how he got on.
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If there is a chassis number anywhere else on the vehicle you should be OK.
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I am in Somerset and I will advise how the owner of the Morris gets on.
Thanks Pete. petel@clara.co.uk
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Ask someone in a classic car club. It's bound to be a very common problem with a very straightforward answer.
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Pete - Where in Somerset are you?
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Hello Mr Lacey.
We have had this conversation before, on a thread relating to Lambda sensors, I am in Yeovil.
Rgds, Pete.
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Could this be one for the new VIC (vehicle identity check)??
www.via.gov.uk/vehicle_testing/vic/vic_scheme.htm
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Yes, I am no expert but I am of two minds about this one as well.
Though this anti-crime thing is all very laudable, is this not just another Govt push to increase the cost, time and bureaucratic hassle in returning a vehicle to the road, aimed primarily at ensuring that more vehicles are scrapped rather than repaired? Especially the older (8 to 10 years+) and pre-cat types.
I have already seen two examples of this, where perfectly serviceable vehicles with only very minor accident damage (which I could have made roadworthy with parts I have in my garden shed) were broken for parts under the new rules.
Perhaps we can start a new thread on this subject.
Rgds, Pete.
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Doh! I have a short memory!
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Thanks Cliff. Understand the owner is looking down that route at this time.
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Having had contact with the Morris Minor Owners Club, we find that the removal of, or repair to, that area of bodywork on a Minor is common. Given the age of the car and the presence of a VIN plate in the engine compartment, this is not considered to be a problem.
Thanks to all contributors., Pete.
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