Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Andre Grandjean

In June 2019 I bought a second hand, 2016 plate, Peugeot 308 SW estate 1.2L Puretech from British Car Auctions at Frimley. The car was previously owned by Motability from whom I have had some very good reliable cars from in the past and it had just 24000 miles on the clock.

It is a lovely car, seemed well looked after, properly maintained, goes really well and I fell in love it very quickly. However, 2 weeks after I purchased it, I had a problem with it.

The in-car computer displayed an ‘Engine Fault’ warning message when I started it up, which obviously worried me, but I did not notice any change in performance or noise from the engine. I booked the car in for a service with my personal mechanic whom I have used for years with the hope that he might find the problem, but he couldn’t fit it in for a couple weeks. In the meantime, I chose to continue driving the car carefully and noticed no ill effects. In fact, in that 2-week period I made several long-distance drives and the car easily coped with standard motorway speeds, yet the message comes up every time I start the car and I did not notice any degradation in performance.

At the service, my mechanic could not find anything wrong with car and could not find any fault codes on his diagnostic computer. I have since had 2 other diagnostic computers plugged in and neither of them could pick up any fault codes either. So, I then booked the car into my local Peugeot dealer in mid July to see if they could identify the problem. They reportedly found 2 codes (P1032 66 & P3060 66) on their diagnostic computer but at the time the Service Executive was very cagey and wouldn’t divulge what was wrong other than the diagnosis was that I needed a new engine. Really, I thought, I couldn’t even tell there was a problem!!

The car was just 6 weeks out of Warranty (ended April 2019) and despite my dealers and my own attempts via Peugeots complaints procedure, Peugeot will not assist with the replacement of the engine. They claim the wrong engine oil was used which invalidates any warranty. However, from the Service History records I have this is untrue as the car has been correctly serviced by an authorised Peugeot dealer. I don’t understand their stance at all.

6 months on and 5000 miles later, I am still driving the car with no obvious deteriation of performance and I have not been offered any sort of solution to the problem from either my dealer or Peugeot. I don’t think there is a problem with the engine, certainly not one that warrants an engine change and if it does have a problem that serious then surely Peugeot has a big responsibility to put it right free of charge. Nobody should have to replace a brand-new engine after it has only done 24000 miles.

Is anyone else experiencing similar problems with Peugeot or the 1.2L Puretech engine?

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - badbusdriver

First thoughts are that as this is a modern engine in a young car, a Peugeot dealer would be the first place i'd go when the warning light came on. Also, i would always use the dealeship for servicing at least until the warranty is up, if for no other reason than to maximise the chances of a 'goodwill gesture' should something like this happen.

These engines are generally regarded as being very reliable, though there have been a couple of related threads in the not too distant past,

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/127907/puegeot-2008--

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/132877/peugeot-308...2

Finally, it is not wise to assume the car to be reliable (or indeed good) simply because it has come from Motability. You need to do the same research in advance to find out if the car has any 'known' issues (admittedly not in this case), and the same checks of the cars themselves in terms of condition and maintenence. Motability cars may well be serviced in accordance to the manufacturers recommendations, but i can assure you it will be the absolute minimum.

Edited by badbusdriver on 06/01/2020 at 21:12

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - sammy1

If you Google the codes you get Cam sensor for the first and MAF for the second. If as you say still OK after 5k miles I would ask the service Manager for an explanation. You might want to find a more helpful dealer. I believe your engine is common to Citroen and Renault

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - SLO76
“ I believe your engine is common to Citroen and Renault”

Not used by Renault but it does appear in many Peugeot, Citroen and now Vauxhall products. Generally good but as with any mass produced design some will go wrong.

If it has been serviced outwith the dealer network then goodwill is out of the window and there’s a high chance it has seen the wrong oil poured in. Small garages bulk buy oil and use the same thing in pretty much everything that comes through the door. This was fine with simple old motors we had in the 70’s, 80’s and even 90’s but it is unacceptable today with our highly complex and very oil specific engines.

I’m guessing that although not recorded on the service record someone other than the main dealer has changed the oil and there’s a non-Peugeot oil filter on the car which has given the fact away to the dealer? It’s a risk you take and it might not have been the current owner to blame but I think it’s a mistake to save say £40-£50 on a minor service if your car is still under warranty or just out of it. My wee VW Polo had several post warranty goodwill claims paid out thanks to its full main dealer history.

Edited by SLO76 on 07/01/2020 at 00:39

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Andre Grandjean
“ I believe your engine is common to Citroen and Renault” Not used by Renault but it does appear in many Peugeot, Citroen and now Vauxhall products. Generally good but as with any mass produced design some will go wrong. If it has been serviced outwith the dealer network then goodwill is out of the window and there’s a high chance it has seen the wrong oil poured in. Small garages bulk buy oil and use the same thing in pretty much everything that comes through the door. This was fine with simple old motors we had in the 70’s, 80’s and even 90’s but it is unacceptable today with our highly complex and very oil specific engines. I’m guessing that although not recorded on the service record someone other than the main dealer has changed the oil and there’s a non-Peugeot oil filter on the car which has given the fact away to the dealer? It’s a risk you take and it might not have been the current owner to blame but I think it’s a mistake to save say £40-£50 on a minor service if your car is still under warranty or just out of it. My wee VW Polo had several post warranty goodwill claims paid out thanks to its full main dealer history.

Thanks for your help.

You may be right about the oil filter though the correct oil had been used in the services prior to the fault occurring so I cannot understand Peugeot's stance and I have the Service History to prove it. I'm very disappointed in them.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Andre Grandjean

If you Google the codes you get Cam sensor for the first and MAF for the second. If as you say still OK after 5k miles I would ask the service Manager for an explanation. You might want to find a more helpful dealer. I believe your engine is common to Citroen and Renault

Thanks for you help.

The Service Manager at my local Peugeot dealer is pretty useless, he wouldn't/couldn't even tell me what they thought was wrong with the engine.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Andre Grandjean

First thoughts are that as this is a modern engine in a young car, a Peugeot dealer would be the first place i'd go when the warning light came on. Also, i would always use the dealeship for servicing at least until the warranty is up, if for no other reason than to maximise the chances of a 'goodwill gesture' should something like this happen.

These engines are generally regarded as being very reliable, though there have been a couple of related threads in the not too distant past,

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/127907/puegeot-2008--

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/132877/peugeot-308...2

Finally, it is not wise to assume the car to be reliable (or indeed good) simply because it has come from Motability. You need to do the same research in advance to find out if the car has any 'known' issues (admittedly not in this case), and the same checks of the cars themselves in terms of condition and maintenence. Motability cars may well be serviced in accordance to the manufacturers recommendations, but i can assure you it will be the absolute minimum.

Thanks for your help.

Unfortunately for me the Warranty expired before I purchased the car. I have the full service history for the car and at the time of purchase it appeared to have had its final warranty service done in April. Once this problem occurred I realised on closer inspection that the car was only put through an MOT in April and not serviced by Motability. All servicing to that date had been carried out by a Peugeot dealer in London

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Avant

Peugeot engines (most of them) have a good reputation. French electrics in general don't.

There must at least be a chance that it's the in-car computer that's at fault.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Andre Grandjean

Peugeot engines (most of them) have a good reputation. French electrics in general don't.

There must at least be a chance that it's the in-car computer that's at fault.

Yes, that's my current thinking. But I am getting no help from my local Peugeot dealer. I have asked them (via email) about the ECU update which I have seen talked about but still await thier reply.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Brit_in_Germany

Do you know what oil your personal mechanic used? He might have just used oil from his standard 5W-30 barrel rather than the 0W-30 oil this engine needs, giving Peugeot an excuse not to extend any goodwill. Peugeot has no responsibility whatsoever for this car other than safety related defects and as you bought through BCA, there is no dealer for you to go back to.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - oldroverboy.

I always say, main dealer service in warranty + the next 1 and you have a chance of "Goodwill"

so if 3 year warranty, 3 services while in warranty and next 1 for potential goodwill...

That is also why it is useful to have the actual service invoices too as well as the service booklet.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Andre Grandjean

I always say, main dealer service in warranty + the next 1 and you have a chance of "Goodwill"

so if 3 year warranty, 3 services while in warranty and next 1 for potential goodwill...

That is also why it is useful to have the actual service invoices too as well as the service booklet.

I have all the Service History docs but all to no avail as far as Peugeot are concerned. As I explained elswhere I wrongly thought that Motobility had done its final service before selling the car but it turned out they had only MOT'd it.

Thanks for your input.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Andre Grandjean

Do you know what oil your personal mechanic used? He might have just used oil from his standard 5W-30 barrel rather than the 0W-30 oil this engine needs, giving Peugeot an excuse not to extend any goodwill. Peugeot has no responsibility whatsoever for this car other than safety related defects and as you bought through BCA, there is no dealer for you to go back to.

I think he has used 5W30 but I'm sure the Service booklet says to use 0W30 or 5W30. But anyway, this was after the fault occurred. 0W30 had been used in it up until then.

Thanks for your input.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Tim Chapman

I had the same issue with my 2015 1.2 308 EAT6 at just under 31000.

The two fault codes you've been given are:

P1032 66 Self-ignition before spark (Rumble) (Low incidence) : Frequency too high

P3060 66 Knock detector : Frequency too high

There is a TSB that covers these codes that has multiple steps to diagnose the issue and only if the engine fails a compression test (or a different code is logged) does the engine need to be replaced.

Mine turned out to be the inlet ports/valves were coated in carbon and had to cleaned using a blasting device made by Tunap that fires small pellets to dislodge the carbon.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Andre Grandjean

I had the same issue with my 2015 1.2 308 EAT6 at just under 31000.

The two fault codes you've been given are:

P1032 66 Self-ignition before spark (Rumble) (Low incidence) : Frequency too high

P3060 66 Knock detector : Frequency too high

There is a TSB that covers these codes that has multiple steps to diagnose the issue and only if the engine fails a compression test (or a different code is logged) does the engine need to be replaced.

Mine turned out to be the inlet ports/valves were coated in carbon and had to cleaned using a blasting device made by Tunap that fires small pellets to dislodge the carbon.

The initial diagnosis by my local dealer does mention that they found

'high leakage percent' on No. 3 cylinder but they wouldn't explain what that meant or what was causing it. The only solution they offerred was a new engine was required.

When it goes BANG! and stops, then I might believe them.

Thanks for your input.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Big John

Find a specialist that knows how to deal with very modern engines.

Probably worth asking for a compression test, I'd give it a tank of Shell Vpower as well.

My guess - carbon buildup on the valves. Worth checking to avoid future valve seat burning.

Edited by Big John on 14/01/2020 at 22:30

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Meteiro

Low compression in cylinder 3 was the issue on our 1.2. it's also a 2015 and was confirmed by Peugeot as a manufacturing fault. 5k bill, fully picked up by Peugeot and the dealer, so lucky really but was bought from and always serviced by the dealer, and in extended warranty period so they had limited room to manoeuvre.

If it's the same compression issue they were pretty adamant it was only resolvable with a new engine and given they were paying I would believe it. Zero carbon build up on ours and we had 40k miles on it on supermarket petrol at the time.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - John F

It would be interesting to know which 1.2 engines are being mentioned here by the above posters. 82, 110 or 130? I presume the more highly rated, the more important it is for the correct oil to be used.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Brit_in_Germany

Was one issue the spark plugs breaking up? This would lead to a loss of compression and potentially damaging the cylinder bore and piston.

Edit - that is based on the 2008 Good/Bad summary:

www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/peugeot/2008-2013/go.../

Edited by Brit_in_Germany on 16/01/2020 at 10:55

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - badbusdriver

It would be interesting to know which 1.2 engines are being mentioned here by the above posters. 82, 110 or 130? I presume the more highly rated, the more important it is for the correct oil to be used.

I'm pretty sure you didn't get the 82bhp unit in the 308SW, only the hatchback, as a base entry level car. So the OP's car will be the 110 or 130.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Brit_in_Germany

Same car and waht looks like the same problem (see penultimate post)

forum.autoplus.fr/autoplus/Questions-et-remarques-...m

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Andre Grandjean

For anyone interested (and you're probably not! ??), I had my car repaired today at an independent garage who had a Peugeot expert on the staff.


Turns out the valves were badly coked and needed a major decoke. For this they bought in a special tool from Germany and had it fixed in no time.


Cost me £1100 but at least not the £5k Peugeot wanted to charge me for a new engine.
Seems to be running really well, l'm hoping it puts an end to my troubles.

Two fingers up at you Peugeot! ?

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - John F

For anyone interested (and you're probably not! ??),

O -o-o-oh yes I am - we have a 1.2 130 in a 2008.

I had my car repaired today.... .....Turns out the valves were badly coked and needed a major decoke. For this they bought in a special tool from Germany and had it fixed in no time.

VW/Audi TFSI engines were renowned for this - I thought a different design of these direct injection engines had cured the problem. What exactly was the special tool? Which power engine is it? I haven't heard of many 1.2 puretechs afflicted by this problem. Had it spent most of its life being 'driven carefully' at no more than 2500 revs? Does regular use of the whole rev range prevent carbon build up? I hope so! I presume for that price it was a head off job?

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - madf

Non direct injection cars have a petrol/air mix entering through the inlet valves. This tends to help clean the valves (cleaning additive in petrol)

Direct injection removes the petrol in the air intake over the valves.. So carbon buildup.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Avant

Decoking / decarbonising? It's a long time since that was something that the majority of ars needed. It was common up to the 1960s - maybe due to lower grade petrol and fewer long journeys in those days.

I've run cars to six-figure mileages and they never needed decoking. So it sounds like a poor show from this Peugeot after four years and a lowish (but not unreasonably low) mileage.

Better luck with yours, John.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Lee Power

My 2016 Puretech 130 powered 308 has just had to have the inlet valves decoked at 34k miles.

Full Peugeot main dealer sevice history plus Peugeot extended warranty - which flatly refused to pay for it.

Jerky throttle between 3k & 4k rpm.

Fault - Rumble pre ignition, inlet valves are clogged & code P1032 stored leading to TSB.

Peugeot UK at first not interested, myself plus main dealer both made a fuss & eventually Peugeot UK agreed they would pay for it 100%.

Mentioning known design fault with direct injection petrol engines & I only bought it due to 4 engine of the year awards seemed to work.

It will be my last PSA product, had 5 Peugeot vehicles over 22+ years but I won't have anything else from PSA in future.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Ben.Cliffs
Hi Andre

I’m shocked to have discovered how similar our cases are. Firstly I purchased a Peugeot 308 GT line 1.2L PureTech 130 from official Peugeot dealership Robins and Day Birmingham North. Car was a 16 plate which 26,000 miles on the clock. This was back in June 2019 also.

After 9 months of purchase and not even a dent on the PSA finance my car too showed a engine warning light. It was intermittent and would appear and disappear without any pattern. I proceeded to book the vehicle in with the approved dealership Immediately and vehicle was serviced on the 03/03/20.

I was told the following “EML on found fault P103266” Recommended further checks on the engine at the cost of between £1000-£1500 which Warranty wouldn’t cover. The price for the further checks were outrageous so I proceeded to take the vehicle to another approved used peugeot dealership. Peugeot Arbury in Walsall. They quoted me £360 for the exact same works my selling dealership had quoted.

Once fully diagnosed it came to light that compression was low on 3 cylinders with a traced fault to an outstanding TSB relating to fault. The Car now needs a new engine. I had extended warranty and FULL peugeot approved service history

I’ve been through every peugeot department there is, Customer Care which may as well be a Customer Avoidance team.. Warranty Refused the cost to cover the work as they said and a quote “The Engine fault is a Inherent fault, down to poor design and is a manufacturers defect”

Magically after offering me nothing Peugeot manufacturer came to me with a 50% good will payment to cover half the costs £4000... I have refused as I believe they are liable for this and should pay 100% of the costs. I’m currently in the process of taking Peugeot to a small claims court and wanted to research anyone else having similar issues.
Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Avant

I feel your pain, Ben, but unless you can be sure that your legal expenses will be low, you need to ask yoursefl whether legal action is really worth the hassle.

Your car was 3 years old when you bought it, and the fauilt didn't appear until you'd had it for 9 months. Is Peugeot's offer to pay half all that unreasonable?

Bear in mind that although the mileage was just right for a 3-year-old car, that mileage could for all you know have included being driven by a rev-happy learner (or their equally rev-happy granny). It could have been a mummy-wagon which was sometimes caned without mercy by mummy's eldest. Nobody knows.

Not your fault - but not Peugeot's either.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - John F

Bear in mind that although the mileage was just right for a 3-year-old car, that mileage could for all you know have included being driven by a rev-happy learner (or their equally rev-happy granny). It could have been a mummy-wagon which was sometimes caned without mercy by mummy's eldest. Nobody knows.

Not your fault - but not Peugeot's either.

Cars these days are designed to cope with 'canings'. Gone are the days when enthusiastic youths could blow up mummy's car engine.

From this story it sounds as though this is one of the early puretechs equipped with a dodgy batch of cambelts. They chafed, creating debris which blocked the oilways resulting in inadequate lubrication of the cylinders. If Ben can extract the cambelt, which at this tender age should look like new, and show that it is damaged, then I think it is indeed Peugeot's fault and they should pay at least 75%.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - Lee Power

A 2016 built Puretech engine should be on the generation 2 cambelt - these don't suffer rubber breakdown & clog the oilways like the 1st generation ones but they are slightly wider & the edges can start to fray if they happen to catch the covers while running.

New generation 3 belt is current solution.

Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech - Peugeot 308 SW 1.2L Puretech Engine Problem -P1032 - sammy1

Your car was 3 years old when you bought it, and the fauilt didn't appear until you'd had it for 9 months. Is Peugeot's offer to pay half all that unreasonable?

Bear in mind that although the mileage was just right for a 3-year-old car, that mileage could for all you know have included being driven by a rev-happy learner (or their equally rev-happy granny). It could have been a mummy-wagon which was sometimes caned without mercy by mummy's eldest. Nobody knows.

Not your fault - but not Peugeot's either.

26000miles and 3 year old on a Peugeot dealer bought car you would expect the last thing to fail would be the engine. Maybe Peugeot should drop the Puretech from its engine description because their engine seems far from perfect. Far to often the customers of modern tech cars are treated as Guinea pigs with new engines design and gearboxes. The manufacturer should do the decent thing and replace the engines after all it costs them peanuts but could c****** the buyer. As to fault well certainly not the owners must be the design of the engine ie the fault was developing the moment it rolled of the production line.

 

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