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Under a proposal filed with the Unite union, the site in Cheshire will move to a single shift next year. The number of cars made there is expected to reduce from up to 150,000 per year to between 70,000 and 90,000.
At which point it will no longer be financially viable.
MGRover were goners once production dropped below 100,000.
Any takers on a french built Astra...
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Presumably it is irrelevant whether or not it is cheaper to assemble vehicles at Ellesmere Port than in France, since it is next to impossible to get rid of people there at any reasonable cost.
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Peugeot/Citroen have shut down a number of car factories and made "efficiencies, so yes they have made French workers redundant. VX UK is no more, ( it had been owned by GM for decades and was almost shut down a few years ago so GM could save some money) and is heading for oblivion because we dont buy Vauxhall cars in the numbers we used to.
We prefer to buy foreign made cars, unlike the French, Italians, Germans, Spainish, etc. We would rather fire UK car workers, than stop buying foreign made cars.
Edited by sandy56 on 16/10/2017 at 16:49
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Peugeot/Citroen have shut down a number of car factories and made "efficiencies, so yes they have made French workers redundant. VX UK is no more, ( it had been owned by GM for decades and was almost shut down a few years ago so GM could save some money) and is heading for oblivion because we dont buy Vauxhall cars in the numbers we used to.
We prefer to buy foreign made cars, unlike the French, Italians, Germans, Spainish, etc. We would rather fire UK car workers, than stop buying foreign made cars.
Really ?
Nissan produce the Qashqai, Juke, X-Trail, Leaf, and the Infiniti Q30 and Qx30 in Sunderland.
Honda build the Civic and CR-V in Swindon
Toyota build Auris, Auris hybrid and Avensis in Derbyshire. They also have an engine plant near Chester.
JLR build ... well, everything they sell in the UK.
MINI build 3 models in the UK.
All told, over 1.6 million cars built in the UK last year.
But according to you, 'we prefer to buy foreign made cars'.
Absolute nonsense
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Peugeot/Citroen have shut down a number of car factories and made "efficiencies, so yes they have made French workers redundant. VX UK is no more, ( it had been owned by GM for decades and was almost shut down a few years ago so GM could save some money) and is heading for oblivion because we dont buy Vauxhall cars in the numbers we used to.
We prefer to buy foreign made cars, unlike the French, Italians, Germans, Spainish, etc. We would rather fire UK car workers, than stop buying foreign made cars.
Really ?
Nissan produce the Qashqai, Juke, X-Trail, Leaf, and the Infiniti Q30 and Qx30 in Sunderland.
Honda build the Civic and CR-V in Swindon
Toyota build Auris, Auris hybrid and Avensis in Derbyshire. They also have an engine plant near Chester.
JLR build ... well, everything they sell in the UK.
MINI build 3 models in the UK.
All told, over 1.6 million cars built in the UK last year.
But according to you, 'we prefer to buy foreign made cars'.
Absolute nonsense
The Astra is the only Vauxhall built in the UK, and not all versions of it - all the other Vauxhalls are built abroad - Germany, Poland, Spain, Korea and France.
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Presumably it is irrelevant whether or not it is cheaper to assemble vehicles at Ellesmere Port than in France, since it is next to impossible to get rid of people there at any reasonable cost.
It's not Ellesmere Port vs France, it's Ellesmere Port vs Gliwice, Poland - those are the only two factories building cars on the GM Delta platform - it would cost far too much to move current Astra production to a PSA factory, but Poland is cheaper labour than the UK.
The next Astra, from 2021 will be built on a PSA platform so could go anywhere.
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Presumably it is irrelevant whether or not it is cheaper to assemble vehicles at Ellesmere Port than in France, since it is next to impossible to get rid of people there at any reasonable cost.
It's not Ellesmere Port vs France, it's Ellesmere Port vs Gliwice, Poland - those are the only two factories building cars on the GM Delta platform - it would cost far too much to move current Astra production to a PSA factory, but Poland is cheaper labour than the UK.
The next Astra, from 2021 will be built on a PSA platform so could go anywhere.
Rover had 3 different Platforms on one line at Longbridge 2001-2005. The assembly lines were all carted off to China. Poland or France is a lot closer.
I see Ellesmere port closed after 2021, but Jaguar?landrover could use the plant and skilled workforce, as they currently are short of capacity.. (but for how long?)
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PSA wont allow the plant to go to land rover, despite the interests of the workers.
PSA is planning a huge growth into the SUV market, and with the DS brand they may believe they can offer a luxury alternative to JLR
Edited by daveyK_UK on 16/10/2017 at 19:22
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Presumably it is irrelevant whether or not it is cheaper to assemble vehicles at Ellesmere Port than in France, since it is next to impossible to get rid of people there at any reasonable cost.
It's not Ellesmere Port vs France, it's Ellesmere Port vs Gliwice, Poland - those are the only two factories building cars on the GM Delta platform - it would cost far too much to move current Astra production to a PSA factory, but Poland is cheaper labour than the UK.
The next Astra, from 2021 will be built on a PSA platform so could go anywhere.
Rover had 3 different Platforms on one line at Longbridge 2001-2005. The assembly lines were all carted off to China. Poland or France is a lot closer.
I see Ellesmere port closed after 2021, but Jaguar?landrover could use the plant and skilled workforce, as they currently are short of capacity.. (but for how long?)
If PSA close Ellesmere Port, then short/medium term they'll just build more Astras on the existing line at Gliwice, Poland - no need to move any tooling as both Gliwice and Ellesmere Port both currently build RHD Vauxhalls and LHD/RHD Opels.
It would be nice to think Ellesmere Port goes to JLR but 2021 may be too long for them to wait.
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(Duplicate post)
Edited by Avant on 17/10/2017 at 00:21
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