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Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Trilogy

Just come across a neighbour who having the engine replaced in a Focus 1.0 Ecoboost. The car has only done 40,000 miles. There seems to have been an engine coolant loss issue.

Anyone else heard of problems like this?

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - craig-pd130

Any idea how it lost the coolant? Radiator holed, split hose or a failed water pump / head gasket etc?

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Engineer Andy

Indeed - there's a world of difference between each cause, especially as regards the manufacturer's reputation. An errant stone flicked up into the engine bay of my old Mirca, breaking the water pump belt, which easily (as the first two) could've caused the same problem had I not noticed the temp gauge rising on the way home (steam was come out of the radiator filler pipe when I got home) one day. No fault of Nissan of course, and could be just as easily the same in this case.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - cockle {P}

How old is it?

My 2013 Focus 1.0l Ecoboost had a recall to have a replacement DEGAS hose fitted, apparently the originals were made of a plastic which was not up to the specified temperature spec. On failure this would result in rapid coolant loss leading to resultant high temperature failures in some engine components.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Trilogy

I'll update when I have more info.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - colino

Unfortunately with their refining and tweeking of the installation on the Focus, they did indeed decide to use inadequate plastic tubes for coolant pipes which work hardened, became brittle, cracked with engine vibration causing some cars to dump all of their coolant and destroy the engines.

Seems like a nice, new, advanced engine and when the accountants stop overruling the engineers, we will wonder why a tiny engine, turbo and cambelt running in engine oil would be surprising in a run of the mill car.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - nailit

My friend has recently had a new engine fitted for free because of this known fault (the recall missed him and ford owned up and paid all), purchased his focus 1 litre petrol at 6 months old earlier this year. He mentioned coolant loss from a pipe low down? sketchy info I know but didn't want to press him on the subject.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - craig-pd130

Interesting info, thanks. Even with an alert driver behind the wheel, an engine that loses all its coolant in a few seconds while the car is at speed could overheat and suffer internal damage before the driver can pull over and switch off.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Ben 10
Does anyone know if this engine is the same as the 1.0 ecoboost n the Fiesta?
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - jc2

Different calibration-same base engine.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Ben 10
So not the same issues then?
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - seaotter

My Focus engine has just cracked at 46000 miles- the water pump had to be replaced at its second annual service, then the coolant pipe cracked before I received the recall notice. I am disgusted with my local Ford dealer who obviously know that this is due to a design fault but will only say that Ford might make a contribution if I take the car in to them to be tested. I will probably be better off if I let my local garage put a nearly new engine in at my own expense, but their lack of interest in a ( previously) regular customer has convinced me to never buy another Ford.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Marcus Feinhols

Agreed, same thing. All the coolant came out yesterday due to cracked pipe. No recall ever received, serviced through main agent from new. Focus 1.0 Ecoboost. 49,000 miles, 4 years old.

I need a new engine and Ford do not want to know anything about it

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - GBP1705

Is this a general recall on 2013 1.0lt ecoboosts ? I have a Focus 2013 on a 62 plate and never heard anything from Ford about a recall. Although I must admit in the nearly 3 years I have had the car from new I have never had a problem.

Would I be best to mention about this DEGAS hose when it goes in for it's service in February ?

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Trilogy

Bit of a late update. The engine failure was a result of coolant loss. It seems to be a mystery as to where the coolant was being lost. A secondhand, low mileage engine, with 3 months warranty was fitted for about half the price Ford wanted to install a new one.

The owner is now looking to replace the car.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Ben 10
What year was the car?

Edited by Ben 10 on 04/03/2016 at 18:26

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Trilogy

I think it is a 12 plate. Will ask the owner next week.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - slkfanboy

That makes sense, there have been a number of issue with early MK3 1.0t engines and leaks. Seams the accountants designed that part of the system!

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Trilogy

Ben, it was a 2012 62 plate. Now traded in. He lost confidence in it. I did suggest a Subaru Outback because he wanted something higher for his disabled daughter and limited mobilty wife. He didn't feel an Outback was for him. To cut a long story short, even though he only does 10,000 miles a year he has gone for a low mileage, present shape Outback. It is the top model, so has Lineartronic transmission and leather upholstery. The leather means his daughter can slide in and out more easily.

I'll try to post an update in due course, with his first impressions.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - focussed

That makes sense, there have been a number of issue with early MK3 1.0t engines and leaks. Seams the accountants designed that part of the system!

But the bean-counters will doubtless charge the failure to any budget except one that could be attributed to themselves-it's what accountants do!

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Graham Bartholomew

As an update to this topic I would add that in the last six months no fewer than 26 cars fitted with the 1.0L Ecoboost engine have suffered engine failure almost all related to cooling problems but not all related to the degas hose failing. The majority appear to have cracked heads due to the excessive heat build up around the exhaust ports and turbo. To date Ford will not acknowledge that there is a problem with these engines mainly fitted to 2012 and early 2013 cars and just out of warranty. It is interesting to note that the design of the head was changed in later 2013 engines ! Coincidence or not ?

See Facebook.com/groups/FordEcoboostNightmare/

Edited by Graham Bartholomew on 08/10/2016 at 22:31

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Wackyracer

Graham, have you tried contacting BBC watchdog ?

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Graham Bartholomew

Oh yes, BBC Watchdog twice - no response

Vehicle Standards Agency - no response

Trading Standards - no response

Ford Custome Relationship Centre - they now refuse to enter into correspondence after 6 months, they offered a paltry £888 goodwill gesture towards a new engine costing £4700 !

Ford Credit Europe - they also now refuse ditto (car bought on Ford Options Scheme)

Andy Barratt Ford CEO passed it to someone in his office - they now refuse to acknowledge me

Messages on FordUK Facebook page ignored for the last month

My last hope is the Financial Ombudsman - awaiting their response as I write (not holding out much hope here though)

Then I think it's the small claims court

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - daveyK_UK
Ford are famous for ignoring and denying glaringly obvious defects with their cars

Power shift anyone?

Please keep raising the profile of this issue, there will be thousands of owners who will be effected

Ford need to be named and shamed regarding there arrogant lack of response
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - David Kirkpatrick
Monday 12th December .Focus 1.0 eco boost Loss of coolant no sign of leak. AA called topped up coolant and followed to Arnold Clark Ford Ayr.. there was no indication or warning hight temp etc.. Garage informed me need new engine 30750 miles on clock,registered 31/01/2013. Have no idea what is going to happen no way can i fork out to repair. Out of warranty and not heard from garage since Thursday when they told me they had sent my case to Ford and see if there will be any good will gesture.. so many of these engines having problem now .. something should be done about it .I have had to phone into work sick as no transport now. The waiting game but dont think there will be any light at end of tunnel after reading some of the outcomes online ...
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Colin sharp
HI does anyone know if it's exact same engine in the focus 1.0 ecoboost and the fiesta am having to replace mines due to degas hose and keep getting told conflicting information, any help would be great . Some people say there al the same others say has to be same engine code ford themselves can't tell they go by part numbers so don't even know the codes ? Thanks
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Fishermans Bend
HI does anyone know if it's exact same engine in the focus 1.0 ecoboost and the fiesta am having to replace mines due to degas hose and keep getting told conflicting information, any help would be great . Some people say there al the same others say has to be same engine code ford themselves can't tell they go by part numbers so don't even know the codes ? Thanks

Have you tried a Ford forum?

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Colin sharp
Yeah wouldn't let me post for some reason? Thanks
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Angry Owner

HI - I have a 62 plate and this has happened to me this week, I had no engine warning lights come on or anything. So so angry to now find out this is a known issue to Ford! Do you know if anyone at all has had any success with getting Ford to own up and replace failed engine free of charge?

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Yvonne Corry
Hi. Same happened to mine on the 3rd of Oct. 3 weeks later not heard
Anything back. Commented on FB ad for Ford and finally had a reply. They had heard nothing from Allen Ford. Within hour had a phone call from Allen Ford. No specific details.
Today received email from Ford to say Allen Ford looking at my service history. Also quibbling
Car out of warrenty. This is a 3.5 year old car with 40,000 miles on the clock
Ford knowingly sold cars with an issue.
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - barney100

Friend of mine had a clutch go on a year old Fiesta.....Ford didn't want to know. Dealer blamed bad driving technique on a driver of 40 years experience and charged full price.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Angry Owner

HI - I have been told byFord today that my engine will be replaced free of charge as there was an outstanding recall on my car which was never sent/received, I am one of the lucky ones as I have joined a page on FB where there is loads of people effected but have had no joy with Ford. I hope yours gets sorted

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Harry L

I am feeling very lucky (ish)

The underside of my car struck a raised hydrant cover at low speed - took it to my local independent dealer to check and he said there was no impact damage but noticed a water leak which he said appeared to be coming from the water pump and as it was still a month (phew!) inside the warranty period suggested I went to the Ford dealer.

They did the repair within the warranty and provided a hire car whilst it was off the road, good service .

The job ticket said they replaced the'front engine cover seal' which I understand to be around 3 inches in diameter. The service manager denied it was a know fault.

My 'bad' news is that having returned the car I now have a vibration on tick over which I am struggling to get the dealer to accept and repair - anybody else had such a problem.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - SLO76
"My 'bad' news is that having returned the car I now have a vibration on tick over"

I'd be concerned about a sudden vibration after they've been in working around the timing belt. It's possible they had to remove it to work on the water pump if that is where the leak was coming from. Have they damaged a tensioner or refitted the belt incorrectly? It runs in an oil bath like a chain to enhance its lifespan. I Is there any noise accompanying the vibration? A vibration from idle can also indicate a problem with the dual mass flywheel on these and thus not be related.

Edited by SLO76 on 07/12/2016 at 22:46

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Jean daniell

My focus broke down 11 oct been at a Fords dealers since 13th october,called out AA who immediately said head gasket gone - its a known problem on these. Was 11 days out of warranty ( I bought it second hand in Feb/March)..7of those 11 days it was on the drive as I was on holiday, The car had no service history stamps although there is a sticker in the car showing service done at 12600 miles and we had it serviced September at 270000 miles...3 weeks before it broke down. The mechanic at Fords originally told me it was loss of coolants which caused the head to warp and blow the head gasket ...caused by the degas pipe...of which i had never previously heard of until googled problems with focus 1L ecoboosts. Now that comment has been revoked and I have been told its an internal problem within the engine..a manufacturing defect...however as the service we had done was not done at a Fords garage they now want proof that Ford recomended parts were used. How this would have affected a manufactoring defect within the engine I dont know.The last time I spoke with the mechanic (approx 2weeks ago) I was told that the engine is too damaged to be reconditioned, he had contacted their sources in order to find a recon engine and 'they are as scarce as rocking horse poo'...probably because of all the others with probs getting there first!! But they could fit and supply a new engine for £5176 with 12 months warranty. When I said about the degas pipe he said it had never been that and was lost for an answer when i asked why i had been told that at the beginning. Lost at what to do next ..but off looking for the elusive rocking horse poo..

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - paula ellis

Hi Jean, I bought a second hand car (63 plate, 16k miles) only yesterday which fortunately, had a three month warranty with it as today, it has gone back to the ford dealer. I have been told that it is a coolant problem and the service team have just had the go ahead by ford's head office to replace the engine. Although I am gutted that the car went bad so quickly, from reading all the other threads on here it is also a relief that it is still under warranty as there is no way we could afford to replace the engine ourselves. To be fair to Fords though, they have dealt with it really efficiently and quickly (up to now, I haven't got the car back yet!) but it is certainly a worry as we are now left with a car that we don't trust. I know it will have a new engine in it but not being mechanically minded, will this original fault affect other areas of the car, exhaust etc? There is obviously a theme going on here and regardless of time out of warranty etc Ford's should do the right thing and sort buyer's out with repairs, replacement or whatever, FOC. Good luck with your fight, 11 days out of warranty is just soul destroying.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Avant

Paula, you have the right under consumer law to reject the car, as you've only just bought it.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - paula ellis

Hi, thanks for that. TrustFord did mention that we could have our money back but as we had part exchanged our old car (a very reliable 08 vauxhall corsa!) we decided we'd stick with the new purchase as we're getting a new engine. We weighed it up and thought that may be the better option. Time will tell!!

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - bazza

I think without proof of service history, you're unlikely to have a case for goodwill, particularly with Ford. There are quite a few reports of failure due to overheating around the exhaust ports/head if I recall and there's a Facebook campaign page.

£5000 plus puts you well out of pocket on the car. There are many 1.0 ecoboosts on e bay selling for around £1000 but obviously this is a huge gamble. However, with some research and phone calls, this would be my choice, followed by a change of car. But you've got to work out what is the cheaper option for yourself.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - SLO76
As much as I like these wee modern 2 & 3cyl turbocharged engines I've always been concerned that they wouldn't prove to be robust in the longterm.

Fords Ecoboost and Fiats Twin air are fast developing a reputation that backs this up sadly and from owners reports on real life driving their economy claims aren't stacking up either which is a shame because they've injected a dose of character into mainstream motoring.

It's looking like none of them will prove to be a wise used buy in the future (I hold little hope for Renault's 0.9 TCe either) and it's looking like Mazda's decision to shun downsized turbocharged engines in favour of their normally aspirated Skyactive engines will prove correct.

Tried and tested with less to go wrong and a reputation for reliability I'd say the Mazda 3 with a petrol engine would be a far better choice than a Focus 1.0T, as long as they've finally got on top of the rust issue.

Edited by SLO76 on 09/12/2016 at 09:37

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - skidpan

I tested a Mazda 3 with the 2 litre engine last year and was I disapointed. It looked great and the specs looked great (trim, equipment, power and emissions) but it was a slug. Very disapointing compared to my Leon 1.4 TSi.

So disapointing that I did not make a huge effort to try the same engine (but slightly more powerful version) in the 6 tourer before I ordered the Superb with the 150 PS TSi.

Sorry but its turbo for me every time.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - bazza

I drove a 1.0 Ecoboost Fiesta a couple of days ago and it was deeply impressive . I could hardly tell it was a 3 cylinder, except at idle and movng off. On the move it only betrayed its tiny capacity when asking it to climb a hill or accelerate from lowish rpm in a highish gear-- at that point one can tell the turbo needed to spool up to boost the torque -slightly more on/off than a non turbo motor. I could easily live with one of those, a bit disappointing to hear of the problems in this thread on the earlier ones. Economy- wise, it was averaging 44 to 45 mpg, running about. That's not as good as it sounds, as our old tech 1.4 vvti Corolla averages 40 mpg but not as quick as this Ecoboost was.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - veloceman
My girlfriend has a fiesta 1.0 ecoboost. Nearly 50,000 miles in almost 4 years, no problems whatsoever. Averging 49 mpg and regularly gets over 50.
I've never been into fords at all but it's brilliant in every way. Great torquey engine and a great motorway cruiser at well over the legal limit. ( I do try to get her to slow down! ).
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Susan Hankey

In MAY this year I had the same problem. Coolant had leaked out through cracked tube. No warning till coolant empty. Ford cmax 1 litre ecoboost 2013 bought in Spain where I live. 45000 k on clock. 5500 euros for a new engine, which has now been done and paid for! I know very little about cars but I am frightened this might happen again. Does anyone know if there was a general recall of 2013 1l Ecoboosts for this reason.I am about to contact Ford in Madrid but wanted some British help first if possible.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Susan Hankey
Hi. Same happened to mine on the 3rd of Oct. 3 weeks later not heard Anything back. Commented on FB ad for Ford and finally had a reply. They had heard nothing from Allen Ford. Within hour had a phone call from Allen Ford. No specific details. Today received email from Ford to say Allen Ford looking at my service history. Also quibbling Car out of warrenty. This is a 3.5 year old car with 40,000 miles on the clock Ford knowingly sold cars with an issue.
Hi. Same happened to mine on the 3rd of Oct. 3 weeks later not heard Anything back. Commented on FB ad for Ford and finally had a reply. They had heard nothing from Allen Ford. Within hour had a phone call from Allen Ford. No specific details. Today received email from Ford to say Allen Ford looking at my service history. Also quibbling Car out of warrenty. This is a 3.5 year old car with 40,000 miles on the clock Ford knowingly sold cars with an issue.

In MAY this year I had the same problem. Coolant had leaked out through cracked tube. No warning till coolant empty. Ford cmax 1 litre ecoboost 2013 bought in Spain where I live. 45000 k on clock. 5500 euros for a new engine, which has now been done and paid for! I know very little about cars but I am frightened this might happen again. Does anyone know if there was a general recall of 2013 1l Ecoboosts for this reason.I am about to contact Ford in Madrid but wanted some British help first if possible.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Craig Jolley

Hi all,

I also wanted to add to this thread as a lot of the problems above have happened to me recently and I feel the more it is documented, the better it will be for other people

62 reg plate with 22K miles was bought from Evans Halshaw in Feb 2016.

Fast forward 14 months, 8000 miles later, a Ford Service and Ford MOT later and the issues have occurred - engine failure with loss of coolant. Suspected blow head gasket and potentially warped Cylinder head.

Contacted EH who fobbed me off and kept saying “outside of warranty”

Called ford who were adamant about having a Ford mechanic look at it. Which happened and the same initial comments i already had. They also wanted me to pay full costs just to strip the engine (£735) to fully diagnose ALL potential issues with no guarantees of any financial support later.

Car has gone to a local garage to repair at a much more reasonable cost.

Once the full problems are diagnosed and documented I will be complaining to the Motor ombudsman (formerly Motor Code). I'm not holding out hope of anything back financially but if anything can be done to help others before issues occur then I suppose it’s a slight positive that can be taken from the whole experience

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Ethan Edwards

There is a lesson here. Don't buy a Ford with that engine.

Or buy a Toyota instead.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Wackyracer

There is a lesson here. Don't buy a Ford with that engine.

Or buy a Toyota instead.

If this Forum had a like button, That would get a press from me.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Wackyracer

Hi all,

I also wanted to add to this thread as a lot of the problems above have happened to me recently and I feel the more it is documented, the better it will be for other people

62 reg plate with 22K miles was bought from Evans Halshaw in Feb 2016.

Fast forward 14 months, 8000 miles later, a Ford Service and Ford MOT later and the issues have occurred - engine failure with loss of coolant. Suspected blow head gasket and potentially warped Cylinder head.

Contacted EH who fobbed me off and kept saying “outside of warranty”

Called ford who were adamant about having a Ford mechanic look at it. Which happened and the same initial comments i already had. They also wanted me to pay full costs just to strip the engine (£735) to fully diagnose ALL potential issues with no guarantees of any financial support later.

Car has gone to a local garage to repair at a much more reasonable cost.

Once the full problems are diagnosed and documented I will be complaining to the Motor ombudsman (formerly Motor Code). I'm not holding out hope of anything back financially but if anything can be done to help others before issues occur then I suppose it’s a slight positive that can be taken from the whole experience

You should have taken it to the Ford dealership and then pushed Ford to do it for free. That is what has been happening alot. It starts off with Ford saying you have to pay for the strip down and report. Then they say you need a new engine at £5000 but, if you were to push hard enough they then replace them for free. Have a look on the facebook group.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - galileo

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Edited by galileo on 19/05/2017 at 12:56

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - madf

Hi all,

I also wanted to add to this thread as a lot of the problems above have happened to me recently and I feel the more it is documented, the better it will be for other people

62 reg plate with 22K miles was bought from Evans Halshaw in Feb 2016.

Fast forward 14 months, 8000 miles later, a Ford Service and Ford MOT later and the issues have occurred - engine failure with loss of coolant. Suspected blow head gasket and potentially warped Cylinder head.

Contacted EH who fobbed me off and kept saying “outside of warranty”

Called ford who were adamant about having a Ford mechanic look at it. Which happened and the same initial comments i already had. They also wanted me to pay full costs just to strip the engine (£735) to fully diagnose ALL potential issues with no guarantees of any financial support later.

Car has gone to a local garage to repair at a much more reasonable cost.

Once the full problems are diagnosed and documented I will be complaining to the Motor ombudsman (formerly Motor Code). I'm not holding out hope of anything back financially but if anything can be done to help others before issues occur then I suppose it’s a slight positive that can be taken from the whole experience

You should have taken it to the Ford dealership and then pushed Ford to do it for free. That is what has been happening alot. It starts off with Ford saying you have to pay for the strip down and report. Then they say you need a new engine at £5000 but, if you were to push hard enough they then replace them for free. Have a look on the facebook group.

Typical useless customer service..

I refuse to buy from a company like that who attempt to make life very difficult by making a poor product and then screwing you when it goes wrong.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Wackyracer

I refuse to buy from a company like that who attempt to make life very difficult by making a poor product and then screwing you when it goes wrong.

You and me both but, never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who will be bitten by something like this and go on to buy another the same.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - gordonbennet

You and me both but, never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who will be bitten by something like this and go on to buy another the same.

I read a consumer review of a Citroen C5, list of faults long as your arm, and the next one they bought was just as bad !!!

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Wackyracer

You and me both but, never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who will be bitten by something like this and go on to buy another the same.

I read a consumer review of a Citroen C5, list of faults long as your arm, and the next one they bought was just as bad !!!

A friend just had a car blow it's second turbo plus loads of other problems with it, he has been looking for a replacement car - bet you can guess what he bought! I don't even bother getting into discussion about it, it's their money and them who have to wait on the hard shoulder when it all goes pete tong.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - veloceman
Are these engine failures mostly with the 125hp rather than 100hp and are they specific to the focus, or do they affect the fiesta too?
Is it an installation issue or an engine issue?
Only asking as my girlfriend has a Fiesta titanium 100hp.
2013 with 50k on the clock.
Had since new and is a brilliant little car but she is getting concerned about it letting go!
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Wackyracer
Are these engine failures mostly with the 125hp rather than 100hp and are they specific to the focus, or do they affect the fiesta too? Is it an installation issue or an engine issue? Only asking as my girlfriend has a Fiesta titanium 100hp. 2013 with 50k on the clock. Had since new and is a brilliant little car but she is getting concerned about it letting go!

Some Fiesta's and B-max's have had engine failures but, it seems not as many as the Focus's. That might be just there was a larger volume of Focus's sold with this engine than other models or it might be the installation is worse in the Focus.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - RaineMan

The lady that just brought the Fiesta EcoBoost mentioned to the Ford main dealer she brought the car from and the salesman claimed he had never heard of this and anyway the car had a full dealer service history. I told her salesmen never like to cloud the issue with facts, and to keep the text I sent her which she showed him!

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Wackyracer

the Ford main dealer she brought the car from and the salesman claimed he had never heard of this

That seems to be a standard response, having read the Facebook group page for this issue.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - bazza

Veloceman, you need to check with the Ford main dealer whether the car is subject to a modification of one of the coolant pipes, typically known as a de-gas pipe. This needs to be done, as they can fracture and the subsequent coolant loss will cause over-heating and engine failure.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - veloceman
Thank you bazza.
Will do.
Stop start has stopped working, there is aparantly a fix for this too.
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - steve mann

Hi same thing has happened today with wifes 2012 40k mileage cared for car, no warning loud crack pulled over called breakdown service fracture plastic flange on hose dumped coolant. Have not driven had it towed home. My question is did you get the head repaired or was it new engine?

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Marcus Feinhols

I have had a Focus 1.0 Ecoboost from new when I bought it in 2013. It has done 49,000 miles. It has been serviced regularly by Evans Halshaw.

I have never had a recall and after speakijg to them yesterday, EH tell me that a recall was never made on this car and to their knowledge, the degas pipe hs never been replaced.

Yesterday, it lost all it's coolant causing blown head gasket, warped cylinder head etc.

I now need a new engine on this car that is not yet 5 years old!

I was totally unaware of this potential problem with this model but since looking on the internet since yesterday, I can see that I am not alone.

I will contact Ford but do not hold out much hope.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Manatee

Example of a recall letter, posted on another forum:

goo.gl/eqUhHx

Doesn't mean it applied to your car of course.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Wackyracer

I have had a Focus 1.0 Ecoboost from new when I bought it in 2013. It has done 49,000 miles. It has been serviced regularly by Evans Halshaw.

I have never had a recall and after speakijg to them yesterday, EH tell me that a recall was never made on this car and to their knowledge, the degas pipe hs never been replaced.

Yesterday, it lost all it's coolant causing blown head gasket, warped cylinder head etc.

I now need a new engine on this car that is not yet 5 years old!

I was totally unaware of this potential problem with this model but since looking on the internet since yesterday, I can see that I am not alone.

I will contact Ford but do not hold out much hope.

From what I have read the degas pipe recall seems to be only for the Focus but, it's a red herring (engines have failed after the revised pipes have been fitted). The problem is the engine itself. Join the facebook page, there is advice there to help you get the engine changed free of charge.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Kirsty Skinner
I have a 12plate ecoboost which on its last service they replaced the coolant bottle, because it was cracked and returned to the dealership in January as coolant was low and was told they would have to replace a washer as it was worn through iv had no recall letter as some have and there bill for the work is going to be over £1000 but my problem is iv to take them at they're word ( it's a washer) when all I'm reading is about this pipe also no recall on ford site unsure on what to do to be honest iv had it to another garage and they had the car on a pressure test an it didn't loose a drop in 3h can someone help please. (. Can someone please tell me which fb page to join as there's loads)

Edited by Kirsty Skinner on 18/07/2017 at 18:42

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - carl233

There are so many issues with these engines, aware of multiple engine failures of this unit and not all connected to the coolant pipe issue. HJ also has reports of the questionable timing belt bathed in oil breaking before the change interval. Compared to the Ford Sigma and Ford\Mazda Duratec unit this Ecoboost engine is proving much more prone to major problems in the real world.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - madf

All the indications are that Ford introduced new technologies (new to them that is) and did not test them out long enough in real world situations. So not change there them - they have history here..

Which means : get the mechnical design complete, make all parts to production specifications and drive 1 + million miles in cars so equipped in real world..

Failure of plastic parts in particular means no prolonged testing of final production parts... The reason why? time pressures.. and cost pressures. ( Warrnaty cost pressures mean Ford will chisel away as much as they can).

Buyer beware.. don't buy one and certainly not one out of warranty - is my opinion.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - dogdays

I own an ecoboost engined C Max and I have no doubt that coolant loss would be a disaster. I say this as the coolant capacity is only 4.1 litres and by the time you notice something is wrong, it will be too late. I cannot except the idea that a small capacity engine is overstressed. Good materials and bearings plus modern oils should deal with any issues. The hose problem should have been corrected on all cars by now, it also should never have happened it should though be remembered that they have sold one heck of a lot of these units and the percentage failure is minimal by any standard. Not much help though if yours is one that’s failed. Perhaps it best to have the cars serviced at a Ford service agent and build up a relationship with them.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - carl233

Coolant loss should not be a disaster for a well engineered robust package. Having suffered major coolant loss on an old Ford CVH engine I did drive many miles in this state without killing the engine and only realised when the rather small temp gauge was observed as being totally in the red. Also coolant loss on a Zetec-E engine (although these units are bullet proof) caused no damage. The EcoBoost units seems so fragile there are so many units failing that these cars are going to be worth nothing as they get older and build up the miles. Also the cost of changing the flawed timing belt bathed in oil is madness, so much labour is involved.

Edited by carl233 on 09/08/2017 at 19:42

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Big John

Coolant loss should not be a disaster for a well engineered robust package. Having suffered major coolant loss on an old Ford CVH engine I did drive many miles in this state without killing the engine and only realised when the rather small temp gauge was observed as being totally in the red. Also coolant loss on a Zetec-E engine (although these units are bullet proof) caused no damage. The EcoBoost units seems so fragile there are so many units failing that these cars are going to be worth nothing as they get older and build up the miles. Also the cost of changing the flawed timing belt bathed in oil is madness, so much labour is involved.

Coolant loss will be a disaster for most engines once the water jacket behind the bores has been emptied (this can take a while though with some engines - although the EcoBoost has been suffering from a rapid leak) The bores then become superheated and damage quickly occurs, usually one or more of the following:

1) Cylinder head gasket failure - damaged directly by the heat or the rapid different expansion rates of cylinder block/bores, head gasket and head

2) Cylinder bores warping

3) Cylinder head warping

4) Pistons melting

Oil can be damaged by heat and / or water , and if driven much further other failures can take place eg big end failure

In some cases when the engine is repaired they don't last long afterwards - basically because the remaining metal has changed due to heat treating

To make things worse - modern engines also usually have less coolant on board these days to speed up the warming up process

Edited by Big John on 09/08/2017 at 22:17

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - carl233
Clearly coolant loss is not great for any engine but the EcoBoost units seem to be failing in high enough numbers that cannot be ignored. Zetec-S, Zetec-E and Duratec units never seemed to suffer such high failure rates. Loss of coolant for a very small amount of time seems to kill the EcoBoost units where as other units are not damaged by such an incident.
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Manatee

A turbocharged engine is always going to hold more heat than a naturally aspirated one. The Ecoboost engines also have three more or less separate cooling circuits IIRC - block, head and exhaust manifold - so even partial loss of coolant may mean the damage is done.

They heat up incredibly quickly from cold, and presumably the corollary to that is that they will overheat quickly when the cooling is impaired.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - carl233

For me the 1.0 EcoBoost engine is the equivalent of modern white goods, it has a shelf life and is not made to last as long or cover as many miles as previous Ford engines, the Zetec-S (Sigma unit) tends to be good for 200k miles if looked after and Zetec-E way beyond that 300k miles plus is easily feasible. The Mazda Duratec also easily good for 200k miles. Cannot see this Ecoobost engine going to anywhere close to those figures.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Shinysun
Well since I was about to get a 2014 1.0 Fiesta ecoboost Automatic (for medical reason) in the next week, I now have a question...what the heckin heck should I buy instead!?

I test drove the 1.6L Zetec PS and it just wasn't punchy enough. I immediately liked the Ecoboost as it had just that bit extra zip that I felt would make the driving just a bit more peppy.

My commute is an hour and features some 50, some 70 and some town driving.

I love my 52 plate 1.4L fiesta for zipping quickly around town but he always struggles on the hills and on the overtakes. The OH's 2010 Focus 1.6 diesel is great for those but I find is not so nippy in town.

Should I really abandon my decision to buy an ecoboost fiesta? There must be loads that are fine. Gah!
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - SLO76
As with most complex new engine designs there are teething problems. VW, Fiat and Renault have also had problems with their early small capacity turbocharged motors but later examples are supposedly ok. Time will tell if this is true or not.

I wouldn't buy one until they've proven themselves, there are just too many cases of failure and I certainly wouldn't touch a 2014 Ecoboost with the notoriously troublesome Powershift automated manual gearbox. This is a toxic combination.

Small automatics are a challenge. If they use an automated manual box like Fords Powershift or VAG's DSG they tend to be unreliable beyond 3-4yrs. If they use a normal torque converter autobox then they are uneconomical and more costly to tax. Some (most Japanese options) use a CVT box but while these are fine driven gently they don't take to enthusiastic driving.

If your budget can stretch to £9,000 or so then the current generation Mazda 2 1.5 auto is an excellent option. Very pleasant to drive but uses a bombproof chain driven normally asperated petrol engine combined with a lightweight conventional torque converter gearbox which doesn't harm economy too much and should prove much more reliable than Ford's Powershift or VAG's DSG.
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www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20170712730...0


Edited by SLO76 on 12/08/2017 at 16:31

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Shinysun
Thanks for the feedback, it is a challenge, automatic is new to me and I wouldn't choose it if I didn't have to. I'm inadvertently a loyal Ford customer, just seems to have fit our needs, and aside from all 3 having experienced leaky boots or foot wells, haven't had any reason to grumble and no regrets.

But I would certainty regret getting a car that is one month left on warranty and 25k on the clock and having the dreaded fried engine by Xmas!

£9000 was gonna be the upper limit. ( well I was looking at £7000 1.6L fiesta until I found the drive not as zingy as I wanted).

Haven't even read about the 'notorious' PS issues yet... But probably should just to make properly sure I'm scared off it :) (but it's so pretty!!!) Argh!




Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Emma McIntyre

Hi, I was just wondering if anyone had any more information/an update on this, My Ford Focus Ecoboost 1.3 63 Plate is in the garage and I have been advised that it would probably be easier to get a new or good quality second hand engine, The annoying thing is that this has happened 12 days out of warranty and only a couple of months before it is due to go back to Motorpoint, so at the moment we are paying £250 a month for it to be stuck in the garage as we figure out the best way to go about things as obviously this kind of fault does not come cheap, also any help with regards to where to look for a second hand engine etc are much appreciated, Thank you

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - FP

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Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - TickersPlaysPop

This is surprisingly common and there are 100's of people who have had engines replace for free, even out of warranty. There is a list of almost 400 registration plates of poeple that have experienced engine failures.

For info on how to get Ford to replace the engine for free see the open Facebook group

https://www.facebook.com/groups/FordEcoboostNightmare

Find the pinned post at the top pf the group page. You will need to be strong with Ford and follow the pinned post to the letter.

Kindest regards

Edited by TickersPlaysPop on 22/02/2018 at 13:26

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - trax1

For info on how to get Ford to replace the engine for free see the open Facebook group

www.facebook.com/groups/FordEcoboostNightmare

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - trax1

For info on how to get Ford to replace the engine for free see the open Facebook group

www.facebook.com/groups/FordEcoboostNightmare

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - geoffs

Does anyone know when ( and if) this problem was fixed?I have a July 2015 Focus 1.0 (125) Ecoboost Titanium. Only done 18,000 miles.I am really pleased with both the performance and economy and had no problems at all....so far. However car is coming up to it's third birthday and will be out of warranty.

Looking at the posts maybe I should move it on but don't really want to swap it unncessarily as was planning on keeping it for about 6 years.

Is there anyway of telling from the engine number or registration if the problem still exists

Any thoughts either way very welcome

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - TickersPlaysPop

Hi geoffs

I liked the drive of the 1.0 litre as well, but not the experience of getting Fordbto do thenright thing. Costly and lengthy... it took me months to get my car back.

There are already 2015 UK registrations being listed on the facebook group, so make of that what you want. The group is open and has a pinned post at the top of the group page that lists over 450 registrations.

Ford have never published anything that proves they have acknoledged their mistake or rectified it. Apart from the red herring of the Degas hose that doesnt stop engine failures, it is just one weak point in the coolant system.

Get a coolant leak anywhere in the system and the engine will very likely need replacing.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - TickersPlaysPop

BBC Radio 4 'you and yours' Monday 26 March reported on this scandal. Ot is available on listen again.

The media are starting to wake up to the size of this mess.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - daveyK_UK
Read there are problems with the 1.0 Ford Tourneo Connects with clutch failure on 1.0 models starting to be common issue.
The cars all seem to be 2 years old.

Not sure if the 1.0 was/is also sold in the van version, would assume the same problem would be true as there is no chance the Turkish factory would change the clutch used on the same production line for the same engine.

Worth adding not many 1.0 petrol eco boosts where sold in the UK for the Tourneo Connect prior to dieselgate so it’s a small sample.

One owner reckons Ford modified the clutch late 2016, but the only way to be sure you have the new clutch set up is to buy a 2017 built Tourneo Connect.

Also worth adding the 1.5 diesels in this vehicle are proving well and racking up over 100k trouble free although it’s been less than 3 years so the jury is still out.
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Engineer Andy
Worth adding not many 1.0 petrol eco boosts where sold in the UK for the Tourneo Connect prior to dieselgate so it’s a small sample. One owner reckons Ford modified the clutch late 2016, but the only way to be sure you have the new clutch set up is to buy a 2017 built Tourneo Connect. Also worth adding the 1.5 diesels in this vehicle are proving well and racking up over 100k trouble free although it’s been less than 3 years so the jury is still out.

Isn't the 1.5TD the smaller varaiant on the infamous '1.6 diesel-of-doom' developed in conjunction with PSA which appears in many of those, as well as Mazdas and Volvos?

I would suspect that there would be less issues when they were used in commercial vehicles as they do much higher mileages under greater load, helping with DPF regens, etc, rather than granny and grandad popping to the shops round the corner once or twice a week, or mum dropping little Johnny off every day at the local school, both which would, in my view cause more wear as its used from cold for short trips more often than commercial vehicles.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - daveyK_UK
I’m not convinced the 1.6 really is a diesel of doom.

Very much depends on how well the owner had looked after it eg. A regular service seems to be the key to longevity as the engine needs fresh oil every 12,000 Miles or per year.

It’s to early to comment on the 1.5 diesel but so far so good on the whole, if it’s as good as the 1.2 pure tech petrol is proving to be then it will be just fine.

Edited by daveyK_UK on 02/04/2018 at 19:50

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Captain-Cretin

My neighbour had no end of trouble with her 2014 Fiesta 1 litre EcoBoost; garage visits were almost monthly as the car was returning stupidly low mpg; her best ever journey - 35 miles each way, over quiet A roads got her 35mpg.

My 2.4L Mitsubishi Grandis can do that!!

Ford kept telling her it would improve as the engine wore in, but it never did and she eventually refused the car.

A glutton for punishment, she now as a 2017 1 litre ecoboost Focus.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Christine makenzie
My Ford Focus ecoboost 1ltr 63 30,000 miles on 3rd engine !!!
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - argybargy

On another forum, I've seen photos of rusty turbo cooling pipes on low mileage Ecoboost engines.

I don't know whether that's a problem which has been dealt with through modification of the parts, but I do recall one driver whose car had been affected reporting that Ford had told him to address the problem by painting the pipes.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - 8Nick9
Congratulations! Use your brain before asking others.
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - KB.

Have been popping in and out of this over the past few years (it's a 2015 thread originally) to see what lessons might be learned and whether it's a good idea to look at Fords with a one litre engine.

"Congratulations! Use your brain before asking others." ... Not sure where that fits into the equation though. What did I miss?

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - TickersPlaysPop

At last it is official and in main stream news...

Any model car can join the action and historical ownership or current can join... the website is being updated to provide buttons for all the models...

Registration list over 770 now up from 660 last week!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/6624292/ford-...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5885385/Fo...

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/3dd90c30-78c2-1...

http://www.roscoereid.com/ford-ecoboost-engines/

www.facebook.com/groups/FordEcoboostNightm...

Key words: engine failure coolant leak degas hose heater matrix engine seal problems starting over heating high temperature loss of coolant econetic ecoboost 1.0 litre 1.6 litre focus fiesta ecosport c-max b- max kuga

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - TickersPlaysPop

This is the best publication from the past week. The mainstream media stories are not as through or techy as needed.

www.fieldfisher.com/media/2018/06/ford-ecoboost-ni...e

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - madf

This is the best publication from the past week. The mainstream media stories are not as through or techy as needed.

www.fieldfisher.com/media/2018/06/ford-ecoboost-ni...e

Thorough?

"Ford manufactured over one million EcoBoost engines between 2011 and 2017. These are turbocharged, direct-injection diesel engines "

DIESEL?

Thorough?

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - TickersPlaysPop

Ha ha

Apologies for spelling error and its a shame the good article has such a big but minor single erroneous use of the words petrol/ diesel! but, I'm sure you tech savy people could see through that and appreciate the alternative journalistic approach the article used.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - badbusdriver

It is high time something like this happened and all i can say is good luck to them. Hopefully they can get Ford to stand up and take responsibility for what is obviously a faulty design.

Never fails to irk me everytime i read an article in a motoring magazine going on about how brilliant the 1.0 ecoboost engine is!.

But it does seem that car manufacturers consider the UK a pushover in instances like. Compare how Ford in Australia were bought to account regarding the dual clutch poweshift transmission, whereas here, the problems were quietly pushed under the carpet and the transmission withdrawn from service. Also how the VAG emissions scandal was dealt with in the USA compared to here.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Engineer Andy

It is high time something like this happened and all i can say is good luck to them. Hopefully they can get Ford to stand up and take responsibility for what is obviously a faulty design.

Never fails to irk me everytime i read an article in a motoring magazine going on about how brilliant the 1.0 ecoboost engine is!.

But it does seem that car manufacturers consider the UK a pushover in instances like. Compare how Ford in Australia were bought to account regarding the dual clutch poweshift transmission, whereas here, the problems were quietly pushed under the carpet and the transmission withdrawn from service. Also how the VAG emissions scandal was dealt with in the USA compared to here.

What's more 'amazing', in my opinion, is how often people owning cars with that engine bitterly complain about the woeful real world mpg, even compared with similar sized petrol turbo engined cars from other makes.

I do think our 'recalls' system is toothless, as it only deals reasonably (but not very well) with safety-related issues and IMHO, the manufacturers have a LOT of influence over what gets recalled and what doesn't, let alone dealing with compensation etc.

I don't particularly want an American'style system of multiple (and often frivolous) lawsuits/class actions for the slightest fault or huge punative fines against foreign firms and not the same for similar issues on their own firms (just to give them an advantage and to bolster government coffers), never mind putting even more money into the pockets of greedy lawyers.

Nor do I want some Hard Left system of going after businesses because they forgot to virtue-signal or pay their political dues to the government or some pressure group by pandering to the latest useless government 'initiative' or such and such by having draconian laws that unfairly punish firms when quite often its stupid, lazy and ignorant consumers who don't take advice or do any research before buying a product that is wholy unsuitable for the task at hand, e.g. diesel engined cars for low mileage driving/short urban journeys, etc, scrimping on maintenance or cars driven unsympathetically.

We need a middle way of providing a robust system of customer care and fairness to all concerned, but that means EVERYONE taking their share of responsibility for the problems.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - TickersPlaysPop

Completely agree guys.

I think for such expensive high volume products there needs to be a system that puts people and corporates on a more level playing field.

I have some ideas and want to kick start something soon.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Leif
The poor real world mpg is not really the car makers fault, it’s a failing of the EU system. The test is unrealistic, not reflecting real driving, and manufacturers most probably tune the engine to improve the test results. The result is that the measured values are completely unrealistic. All makers do this, though Japanese cars seem to be a bit better than most. The new test procedures may resolve this issue. I can almost get the combined mpg in my 95 SE Polo on 25 miles commutes, which are more like extra urban driving. Yes my car can not realistically achieve the claimed mpg, but it does do very good mpg, I am getting 60 mpg from a petrol engine.

Car making is a competitive business, and a tough one to survive in. Factories are full of robots, with huge investment required for each new car. We are seeing fewer makers, with many owning multiple brands which share platforms and components including engines. I think regulation is the only way forward, so there is a level playing field for all. By all accounts VW have DSG failures, Ford have Ecoboost failures and Land Rover have engine failures.
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - argybargy

This is the best publication from the past week. The mainstream media stories are not as through or techy as needed.

www.fieldfisher.com/media/2018/06/ford-ecoboost-ni...e

Similar situation with the Powershift, in that class actions were initiated in the USA and Australia, along with longer warranties on the faulty gearboxes than were ever seen in the UK; but no class action was started here. I've no idea whether that's down to the inertia and general defeatism of British consumers, or whether there's some other factor at play.

The British Ford buyer was instead expected to rely on Ford's well deserved reputation for intermittent generosity and inconsistently-applied warranty conditions.

Edited by argybargy on 01/07/2018 at 19:33

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Engineer Andy

The problem with us Brits is that we all too often grumble and moan at our TVs, maybe write a snotty letter to someone or a national newspaper, then never follow it up, never do the work to encourage others to get involved (not that most would - its the 'what can I do?' attitude, assuming they could be bothered at all) to put enough pressure on politicians, and, through consumer pressure where it really hurts - using our wallets to stop buying said products - to get things to change for the better.

Think how many mugs, ahem - I mean punters - have been neatly lining up to buy VAG cars, including diesels, after dieslgate broke (VAG are actually selling MORE cars in the UK than before that story broke), similarly people still buy Fords in similar huge numbers.

Most people are too lazy to be bothered to do anything, especially if buying a particular product makes them 'look fashionable', as German cars often do.

As another example of this 'can't be bothered' attitude to getting good customer service, my parents haven't changed their utility suppliers in 43 years and are paying probably 30%+ more than if they transferred to another supplier. Its not as though they are getting a decent service either. Reason - they don't want to put the work in to see what's available, including those with a better service. Its not as though they have anything better to do (they are retired and have use of a computer [and use it] and the Interweb) - my sister and I have on many occasions offered to assist, but no, they'd rather stick to their existing very average service and just complain when it doesn't work or the prices go up.

BTW - their car is a Fiesta (he's always owned Fords, even after his company car days were over), and it wouldn't surprise me if he got another one, with 1.0T engine this time, for their next (last) car, despite the negative reviews and press.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - gordonbennet

The problem with us Brits is that we all too often grumble and moan at our TVs, maybe write a snotty letter to someone or a national newspaper, then never follow it up, never do the work to encourage others to get involved (not that most would - its the 'what can I do?' attitude, assuming they could be bothered at all) to put enough pressure on politicians, and, through consumer pressure where it really hurts - using our wallets to stop buying said products - to get things to change for the better.

Interesting point that, maybe it is a national disease just accepting what (those who think they are) our betters tell us must be so.

How many people simply bend over and accept roughshod almost bullying treatment at work, where, despite the propaganda against them, a well membered union can still put a stop to things, but it takes a bit of effort attending a union meeting, and that £14 a month subs seems expensive when it's worth around £10k a year more or maybe 15 hours a week less work than other competitor companies who don't have an active union, but people fail to see bigger pictures all the time.

I know lets have a beer or 10 and let the idiot box in the corner brainwash us into imbecile mindset, doing the other thing is just so difficult...apply face palm here.

I too was with BG for donkeys years, until i discovered the internet, i'd just assumed that a company such as this would automatically have their 'never missed a payment customers on their best possible price plan...oh boy wasi in for a rude awakening when i got online and discovered the sheer rip off...even if they were the very last power supplier in the country they will never see another penny of my dosh as long as i live.

Edited by gordonbennet on 01/07/2018 at 22:06

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Engineer Andy

As I said, the problem with 'going to the opposite end of the scale' with draconian consumer laws and 'old style 'trade unions is that they are too powerful and stifle decent businesses and organisation from doing well, often by encouraging incompetence and bureaucracy, as we see in the Public sector and many former (still heavily unionised AND regulated) public sector industries/firms, such as the railways, buses, British Airways, BT, British Gas (utlility companies generally) - they have a long-standing firm/industry 'ethos' encouraged by such overbearing control.

What needs to happen is more open and verifiable reporting and critique/discussion of problems, issues and firms/organisations, which again is being stiffled by the MSM, big business and vested government/public sector interests who want to keep control of the narrative so the money keeps rolling in and power (and high salaries) stays with them.

Its why most if not all of them are tacitally supporting the EU Article 11 and 13 proposals which will significantly reduce freedoms of speech and independent critiquinhg/discussion of issues and organisations. For example, we would either (each) have to pay a 'link tax' just to post a link to a newspaper/website article for something that illustrates a point (ironically that would get said website more business through more people viewing the article), or smaller websites such as this would likely err on the side of caution and ban/delete that sort of thing because they might be liable.

Its one of the reasons why so many people can't be asked to take on the bad customer service firms and organisations - the cards are stacked against them, but if you try hard enough and have a decent amount of common sense, you can prevail, though not always. It can also get you effectively blacklisted for being a 'serial moaner' and a 'troublemaker'.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Leif
It can be very difficult to take on companies. Many years ago I threw out the trades doing my bathroom as it became clear they were cowboys. CheckATrade concluded there was nothing wrong with their work. Trading Standards agreed I was due compensation. And they were on the TS list of approved trades. What a joke. It took six months of fighting to get compensation and I still lost out. The TS person I dealt with was weak. It was a very stressful time. I also bought a bath from someone who turned out to be a serial crook. It took months of fighting to get the money back.

I know from experience that in some ways consumer law in North America is weak. However, they do have law firms willing to take on class actions pro bono and maybe that is the difference. Plus the government was willing to take on VW. That might be in part because they were not American. As you’ve suggested, our government is weak in many ways. Jeffery Archer, a convicted and unrepentant crook, is still a Lord. Need I say more?
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Avant

I do have some sympathy with Andy's parents in their lack of enthusiasm for changing utility suppliers. When one's working, looking at different tariffs is a hassle for which there often isn't time; and when one's retired one may not have the energy (no pun intended!).

Yes, you can save money initially by changing suppliers, as they always seem to value new customers more than existing ones: but the costs go up when you're not 'new' any more, and most of the time there isn't much in it if you take a long-term view.

And if they've had good service from a succession of Fords, it's not very surprising that they are likely to go for another. Years of solid experience are worth more to them than sloppy scaremongering in the press by non-motoring journalists such as that PR person (from a big firm of solicitors) who thinks that the 1.0 Ecoboost engine is a diesel.

Edited by Avant on 02/07/2018 at 01:14

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - TickersPlaysPop

Hi

Thank you to all who have replied, I value every input and take it all on-board.

I agree that there is apathy within the UK population across all areas of life and that it is an element in what happens within the car consumer market.

Another significant element is our education system and systems in place for consumers to use. Our children are not taught about many important elements of life including political mechanics. Also, the systems (laws and services) in place are insufficient to protect consumers. There are government depts and watchdogs... Offwatt etc etc, but, for the car industry there is nothing that fits the Ecoboost fiasco. Also watchdogs are widely criticised as toothless window dressing to placate the UK population. For such a high value and high volume purchase this is ludicrous? The same goes for house and property purchases and the recent scandals and campaigns.

So the educated class i.e.the top <1% that are very aware of this, and are very happy to keep it that way. Where corporations are well protected by way of the lack of these desperately needed systems.

Consequently it has taken 1 person so much time it has been almost a full time job for 2 years, plus of assistance from others to reach the point of starting legal action against Ford re EcoBoost cars.

So please don’t conflate the undisputed general UK population apathy with lack of holding corporations to account. If all it took was a mthly £14 fee and the odd evening meeting to fix all our consumer vulnerabilities and general woes we would all be doing it?

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - argybargy

Just briefly on the digression of energy supply switching, I've changed my supplier at least every two years ever since the market was opened up. I'm certain that I've saved money, but especially in the early days of switching the procedure was so tortuous and the outcome so uncertain that it probably left you feeling less content than if you'd remained with the previous supplier and resigned yourself to higher bills.

Foot dragging, incompetence and poor communication have still not been eliminated from the energy switching market, so to some degree I can sympathise with those who don't want to be bothered, and who opt instead to remain with the same supplier ad infinitum and pay through the nose.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - TickersPlaysPop

871 reg plates listed with engine failure, group legal action started, BBC TV, several BBC radio shows, The Times, The Sun all running stories.

The campaign group are on Facebook #ecoboom

90k 1.0 litre Focuses on the road now, anf Ford still denying there is a design fault with the 1.0 litre engine. Charging customers around £6000 for new engines in cars less than 5 years old and below 60k miles.

Edited by TickersPlaysPop on 12/07/2018 at 22:59

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Theo Lees
So glad I found this site because I’ve been interested in buying one of these.

I visited today one of the big car supermarkets and inspected a 2017 plate with 22k miles on the clock.

After starting up and while stationery, I gradually increased the rev’s to 4000 rpm, at which point the whole car started juddering quite violently.

I tried increasing the revs further to see if it would go past this point, but it seemed flat and had no more power. Is this normal?

After telling one of the sales ‘executives’ he replied that all 3 cylinder engingines are the same because they’re not balanced as are 4 cylinder engines.

I left feeling disillusioned; or did l have a lucky escape?

Edited by Theo Lees on 16/07/2018 at 21:19

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - gordonbennet

My 21 year old Merc won't rev past 3000rpm in neutral, which is quite normal for lots of cars to limit the revs when stationary.

Whether there was something actually amiss with the car you tried i wouldn't have a clue, however i wouldn't go near one of these ticking time bombs anyway.

Interesting that we are now well over 100 posts on this thread, another mega thread here if you search is another engine thread up at around 300 posts last time i looked, same maker, Focus' fitted with the 1.6hdi, known affectionately as the Diesel of Doom.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Theo Lees
Thanks gordonbennet, I’ll be having a rethink...
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - badbusdriver

Revving a car while it is stationary seems a very odd way to try and determine how much power it has, wouldn't a test drive have been more illuminating?. The Ecoboost, as it's name suggests is a turbo engine, and, as a general rule, turbo engines don't rev as high as a n/a engine, they don't need to. Having said that, according to Ford the 100 and 125PS versions of the Ecoboost produce their maximum power at 6000rpm. So like GB says, either there is a problem with the engine, or there is some device to limit how much the engine can be revved while stationary.

Either way, don't buy it, or any other car with that engine.

I was at a customers house the other day and was admiring the 16 plate Mazda 2 on the driveway. The homeowner told me it was his Grandson's, then went on to tell me that he had been looking at a Fiesta Ecoboost, but while researching them found all the reports of engines lunching themselves etc, etc. Which understandably put him right off. But i thought, how refreshing that someone actually bothered to do some homework and find out if the car they were interested was any good or had any underlying problems before buying it!.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Theo Lees
Thanks for your reply BBD, very informative.

Just like to add, I wasn’t trying to determine the power of the engine by gradually increasing the rev’s, but how smoothly it reached 4000 rpm. I merely said it juddered violently, seemed flat and had no more power at that point. Only a fool would test drive after that.

Doing what I did and reading this forum, and other reviews, are part of my research and I certainly won’t be buying now.

I’ve been driving for 45 years so please give me some credit.

Edited by Theo Lees on 17/07/2018 at 13:40

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - badbusdriver

This is what you said,

"I tried increasing the revs further to see if it would go past this point, but it seemed flat and had no more power. Is this normal?"

Revving a car while stationary requires virtually no power, so it is not going to tell you anything. I believe some of the issues with the Ecoboost are related to the small amount of oil it contains. Given that, i find it easy to believe the engine is supposed to restrict the revs while the car is stationary (much less cooling) in order to prevent damage. Which in turn means that it may well be a normal feature on small capacity turbo engines. Bottom line is unless you know for sure it is not supposed to do that you can't base your conclusion on what happened. It has worked out in your favour this time due to the Ecoboost problems, but it could have otherwise resulted in you missing out on a good car.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Theo Lees
I appreciate your further comments ... completely disillusioned with this engine.
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - TickersPlaysPop

Latest safety recall clutch wear, excessive heat fluid leak and possible fire.

Issued in UK July 2018, in USA March 2018. 18S07

To see if your car is affected check here...

www.etis.ford.com/vehicleSelection.do

Many people have been asked to pay for new clutch due to wear during the process of engine replacememt after engine failure. This was very frequently under 50k miles. Maybe these people can now get a refund?

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - geoffs

Just checked and my car affected both on DVLA and Ford Etis.

Ford have it down as an Outstanding Field Service Action.

DVLA have it listed as a safety recall. I haven't had any letters from either Ford or the DVLA.

The Ford "fix" seems to be some slip detection software which just nacks off the engine if it detects the clutch slipping which at least to me as an engineer seems to be a work around rather than a permanent fix. Given that I paid extra money to have the 125bhp version of the engine with a 6 speed box is that engine now being derated??????

Any ideas/answers very welcome

Geoff

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - Captbnut

I fear that we had the same problem this week. Overheat with no warning followed by an empty coolant bottle.

Our big problem is that this happened in Nantes on our way back from holiday. In the process of arranging repatriation. Would people advise it going to our usual local garage or straight to the main dealer? (We bought it second hand from Car Shop and have necne dealt with the dealer).

For those that this happened to in 2014/15, are the new engines lasting?

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - daveyK_UK
Take it to a Ford Dealership and demand they pay for all costs.
If they refuse, get the car independently evaluated including a written report, get Ford dealer to fix it and head to the small claims court.

Make the dealer aware this is what you intend to do and make clear whatever they charge you is the amount you will be claiming plus reasonable expenses.

One important question - does your car have full Ford main dealer service history
Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - TickersPlaysPop

UPDATE don't miss it!!!

BBC 1 TV Monday 1st Oct 7:30pm Inside Out Comprehensive look at the issues

BBC Radio 4 'You and Yours' 12:15am Monday 1st Oct follow up story with interviews with campaign leader Louise.

That's 2 BBC stories in 1 day!!

Face book group fordecoboostnightmare lists over 1200 reg plates of failed engines many on 2015 plates... look for yourself...

Go to ecoboom.uk to register to claim costs back for repairs £1000's

Thailand group legal action win against Ford....

BANGKOK — A civil court on Friday delivered victory to hundreds of people who banded together to sue the Ford Motor Co. in Thailand’s first class suit.

After a year-long legal battle, the court found the company guilty of selling vehicles with multiple defects to customers and ordered it to pay over 23 million baht in damages.

Edited by TickersPlaysPop on 29/09/2018 at 10:52

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - carl233

Ford should be brought to book worldwide for this self inflicted mess. The engine failure record tells a very sorry picture of engineering quality and an even worse picture of due regard to customers.

Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost engine failure - daveyjp
Ford have now decided they have been useless and will refund repair costs.

 

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