USA VAG TDI vouchers for owners - Trilogy

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Many thanks for this, Trilogy.

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They need to keep their sales afloat and a pile of cash on the bonnet is a good way. I predict some mega deals on VWs for existing finance leasers next year. It might work provided VAGs pockets are deep enough worldwide.

USA VAG TDI vouchers for owners - brum

There are articles in the press, relating to the UK I think, that VW are offering to pay the government the difference in VED rather than the government trying to force owners to pay.

Up till now I've not been too upset about this debacle, but it now seems all cars will be retested and reclassified for VED. All well and good that they grease up to the government, but what about us fleeced owners? I have been complaining for years about my fabia only doing low 30's instead of the claimed 47+ mpg, with the usual m****ic response in other forums of "you're driving it wrong".

So government is appeased and gets their windfall, when for years I've been spending 30% to 50% too much on fuel.

I've always found it suspicious how co2 figures always end in a 9 or a 0.

I'm starting to get angry.....surely as the UK is the second most affected market, we deserve better treatment.

USA VAG TDI vouchers for owners - alan1302

I'm starting to get angry.....surely as the UK is the second most affected market, we deserve better treatment.

Cut to the chase - what do you want?

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I guess brum wants compensating. And I agree. Incidentally I have never owned or driven a VW so I have no vested interest. I have always thought they were rotten vehicles anyway and it seems I am correct.

VAG will, I predict, give nothing to the UK buyer. They plainly can't be trusted and they will wriggle out of it. Already it will take until next year before any sort of fix is applied. It's the old story - string it out and people forget.

If the affected vehicles become reclassified for tax purposes, will VAG pay the difference for every owner until all the cars are off the road. I don't think so. UK owners will go without.

VAG+NOX=TAX. That's my new chemical formula. And the new VW model car when it comes out will be called the Menda-City.

VAG. BAH!

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I have always thought they were rotten vehicles anyway and it seems I am correct.

Over the past 30 years we have owned 4 Golfs, a Polo and now a Seat Leon. All have been excellent vehicles although it has to be said the paint on the Polo was a bit like brittle nail varnish.

As for MPG the current Leon came with an "official" combined of 54 mpg but personally from experience I am not stupid enough to expect to get that figure. Based on magazine tests and HJ Real MPG's I estimated 45 mpg and thet is exactly what we get.

Anyone expecting to get compensation based on the argument that they do not get the official is being naive since no car does and they would hopefully be laughed out of court if they were stupid enough to take it that far (as some no doubt will).

People need to get real and accept that all manufacturers have "maximised" the mpg figures within the rules. If you look at the CO2 figures you will see that they are identical to a single decimal point for many vehicles in the same class which is nearer impossible than unlikely.

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VW are probably just the first manufacturer to get caught doing this. I'm sure they all have their fiddles going on - blame the useless obsession with Co2 for our current tax bands.

I've owned a lot of cars and the only two that have matched (nearly) the manufacturers figures compared to my brim to brim calculations are a 1.8 Vectra (39mpg - bang on the offical) and a 2.0 Rav4 (31 compared to the offical 32.1)

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... the argument that they do not get the official is being naive since no car does and they would hopefully be laughed out of court if they were stupid enough to take it that far (as some no doubt will).

People need to get real and accept that all manufacturers have "maximised" the mpg figures within the rules. If you look at the CO2 figures you will see that they are identical to a single decimal point for many vehicles in the same class which is nearer impossible than unlikely.

Actually, I do get pretty much the official figures.

But that's because my cars a a few years older (2007 and 2011) - from an era where the manufacturers and testers didn't do quite so many dodgy things. And from manufacturers who didn't take every liberty going.

I have to pay more in road tax, of course - because it reflects more to the real world instead of the lying, scheming world that car testing has become.

USA VAG TDI vouchers for owners - alan1302

I guess brum wants compensating. And I agree. I

I guessed that part :-) But in what way? - A few specifics would be nice.

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The americans get $1250 upfront, no doubt other perks will follow, e.g. free servicing etc.

The brits get a statement that the Uk government is going to get some cash, and a warning that anyone who does not get their car modified will be breaking some law and will have their car confiscated and crushed.

Which is the bettr deal Alan?

USA VAG TDI vouchers for owners - alan1302

The americans get $1250 upfront, no doubt other perks will follow, e.g. free servicing etc.

The brits get a statement that the Uk government is going to get some cash, and a warning that anyone who does not get their car modified will be breaking some law and will have their car confiscated and crushed.

Which is the bettr deal Alan?

1st one - but I was asking what you wanted. There are a lot of people saying they want compensation but no one saying what they think they should get from VW.

Edited by alan1302 on 09/11/2015 at 19:40

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The different treatment of US and UK customers doesn't surprise me.

About 13 or so years ago, having just purchased my third replacement front window mechanism for my Mk 4 Golf, I was interested to find on a well-known US TDI website that VW were refunding repair costs on that component and providing a 7 year warranty against further failure. There was a design problem in that weak plastic clips were used to attach the glass.

I wrote to VW GB. Their reply was by telephone; a call from an arrogant and unhelpful girl who told me that they did not regard me as a good customer because I did not have a FSH with my local VW dealer. I pointed out that I had purchased 2 new and a third nearly new VW/Audi cars in fairly recent times and that there were about half a dozen in my wider family. It didn't change her stance. She still considered me a "bad customer". She also told me the downright lie that the US market cars were different and that their window problems were irrelevant to UK ones.

The VW/Audi cars we had were good ones, and gave great service (faulty window mechanisms excluded). But, on grounds of principle, I haven't considered having another one since.

USA VAG TDI vouchers for owners - alan1302

The different treatment of US and UK customers doesn't surprise me.

So far there hasn't been any different treatment as nothing has been said what is happening in the UK

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The different treatment of US and UK customers doesn't surprise me.

So far there hasn't been any different treatment as nothing has been said what is happening in the UK

Errr: you hav just explained a significant difference..