Cat D write off unfairness - Dutchwife
My daughter bought her first car 8 weeks ago, after months of searching for her perfect car. She bought it for a good price, much less than it was advertised for, and the exact make, model and colour that she wanted. She took it to university and kept in park at the halls private car park.

2 weeks ago the uni bus reversed into it, caving in the 2 rh side panels. Our garage put this in the hands of Kindertons who have liaised with the bus company's insurance. They have just said that the car is uneconomical to repair, and have offered us a figure which is just less than we paid for it. Fair enough she has had a few weeks driving it, and has added a few miles, but we cannot find an equivalent car for the amount they are offering. There just aren't any for sale for the price.

We have been told if we want a higher amount we have to send copies of current adverts for the equivalent car from private sellers, we can't because there aren't any! Proving how much we paid for it won't help, because we got it for a good price!

My question is should we take the money and get another car with higher mileage, or should we buy her car for the salvage value and get it repaired, probably having some extra money in the bank after doing this, however because the car will then be a cat d they resale value will be less, and her insurance premiums will go up. In the meantime she doesn't have a car!

It doesn't seem fair that she is the person suffering through no fault of her own, advice needed please!
Cat D write off unfairness - elekie&a/c doctor

Make/model/age of car would help.

Cat D write off unfairness - RobJP

Always assume that a cat D car will be virtually unsellable at any price. Not true, but true enough. Most buyers will avoid it like the plague, and you won't ever be able to part-ex it in for anything more than a pittance.

So if she does take it back and get it fixed, it's 'run-it-into-the-ground'.

However, as elekie has already said, make/model/age - and price paid - would be helpful.

Cat D write off unfairness - gordonbennet

Presumably the car was bought as a keeper, if that is still the case, and only your daughter can really answer that, then if you able to, buy it back and repair it yourselves via a one man and his dog bodyshop with used parts as applicable.

Keep it as long as possible, when it reaches banger money then cartD won't be a problem to the many sensible people who run bangers...take lots of before and after pics with time stamps, keep in folder with other paperwork to prove the extent of the damage to Mr bangernomics buyer years hence.

Cat D write off unfairness - Dutchwife
Price paid was £2990, but for sale at £3450. Have been offered £2080. With a salvage buy back price of £338.20
Estimate for work £2500, but garage have said it could be done privately for £1500 with 2nd hand parts
Cat D write off unfairness - Dutchwife
Sorry, Toyota Yaris 1.3 5 door, 2005 with 23K mileage, one driver from new. Bought from trade with new MOT.
Cat D write off unfairness - bathtub tom
We have been told if we want a higher amount we have to send copies of current adverts for the equivalent car from private sellers,

Why private sellers? The other party put you in the position of needing to replace the car and unless they're prepared to meet your expenses in trekking round private sellers, they should accept you could go to a dealer (and pay dealer prices).

I suppose your daughter could justifably submit taxi fares for journeys she'd otherwise had used her car for?

Cat D write off unfairness - Falkirk Bairn

>>I suppose your daughter could justifably submit taxi fares for journeys she'd >>otherwise had used her car for?

Definitely a garage price for the car!! Not Private sale price.

Ask for 1 month's car hire to cover for commuting as car being written off and the need to get round to find another....they will say 2 weeks and you try and get them to 3 weeks.

I had my 2 week old car bumped a good few years back & asked for a hire car - they said NO - I said I will hire a Hertz car at £35-£50 per day for as long as required or they could hire it from Europcar, at their preferential rates about £20 / day - an hour later I had a car for 3 weeks with the bill going direct to Aviva - Aviva also covered the hire car insurance with £100 excess and not the £5.00 - £10.00 / day the Hertz would require

Edited by Falkirk Bairn on 18/10/2015 at 21:45

Cat D write off unfairness - slkfanboy

The question of provate sale price or garage would depend on how you purchased. It should be like for like. On the basis of price if it was lower thn market value the ins. company will assume that is due to condition.

Cat D sounds like quite a bit of damage.

Cat D write off unfairness - RobJP

The question of provate sale price or garage would depend on how you purchased. It should be like for like. On the basis of price if it was lower thn market value the ins. company will assume that is due to condition.

Cat D sounds like quite a bit of damage.

Not really. You'd be surprised just how little (and largely cosmetic) damage there can be for a car to be cat D.

If, for example, it's a £1000 car, then a wing and door panel, together with the labour costs involved, could easily push it over £500, which may well be the point at which the insurance break over into 'uneconomical to repair'.

However, we've asked for some datils of the car (including price), and those details haven't been forthcoming. So it could have cost £250, or £4,000. Which would obviously make a huge difference to the answers given.

Cat D write off unfairness - Falkirk Bairn

Parts are expensive, even pattern parts, labour costs are probably £35 in a back street body shop & considerably more elsewhere.

Add to that car hire charges for a week (even modest repairs require drying time / several coats, rubbing down and working in the colour to match the old paint, admin costs @ Insurers etc etc so a small bang maybe £1000 - £500 repair, £200 car hire + delays in parts and the costs rise so many cars are written off to avoid the risk of cost overruns.

Back Street Body Builder using pattern & 2nd hand parts and having lower overheads can have a £800 repair down to maybe £100 parts and £250 labour - can still be a good job BUT if the car is CAT D it can devalue a fairly new car- by the time the car is a banger age it makes little difference as at that point overall condition is key.

Airbags deployed? most 5 year old cars ( & some even newer) will be written off as uneconomic

Cat D write off unfairness - Dutchwife
They have said that because the car is drive able she can't have a hire car.
Airbags weren't deployed. It's just cosmetic, it was in an immaculate condition before this, and she was intending to keep it through uni, so at least 3 years.

If we take the offer, buy it back, have the work done we could be around £1k better off, but I suspect that the insurance will go up, and the resale value will be less, so probably worse off in the long run.
Cat D write off unfairness - FP

"If we take the offer, buy it back, have the work done we could be around £1k better off, but I suspect that the insurance will go up, and the resale value will be less, so probably worse off in the long run."

Possibly not. If you run the car till it dies, the resale value is irrelevant.

You "suspect" the insurance will go up, but unless you know by how much, you cannot be sure you'll be worse off in the end.

Higher up you say the insurance company has "...offered us a figure which is just less than we paid for it. Fair enough she has had a few weeks driving it, and has added a few miles, but we cannot find an equivalent car for the amount they are offering. There just aren't any for sale for the price."

I think this is the option I would take. You need to get rid of the sentimental value that it seems has been attached to the car - "the perfect car", as you call it. Call me cynical if you wish, but I simply don't believe that there isn't another suitable car out there. It doesn't have to be the same make and model. And it won't be the last car your daughter buys.

You've been made a good offer - the use of a car for 8 weeks free.

But you make a fair point that "it doesn't seem fair that she is the person suffering through no fault of her own." Indeed - she is the victim, but unfortunately no-one gets compensated for all the time and effort they spent searching for the car.