Ingenium engines - Somerset_irish
I was in a Land Rover dealership some weeks back and the sales person stated the ingenium engine would need an adblue top up every 1500 miles at a JLR dealership. Is this right, it seems like madness? What a pain in the a*** if you live well away from dealers.

Edited by Somerset_irish on 09/09/2015 at 21:57

Ingenium engines - RT

Of course they tell you it's a job for the dealer - but it should be possible DIY by buying a small container which will lock onto the tank fitting and when empty, cut the bottom off and use as a funnel for a cheaper bulk container.

DEF/Adblue consumption is 1-3% of the diesel consumption - how often it needs topping up depends on the tank size.

VW's that use Adblue get topped up during 10,000 mile services but hard driving usually requires an interim top-up.

Edited by RT on 09/09/2015 at 22:17

Ingenium engines - focussed

How come some engines need this additive and others don't?

Ingenium engines - RT

DEF/Adblue is needed on some engines to meet the Euro 6 NOx limits which are much stricter than in Euro 5. Some engines can meet the requirement without using it, typically smaller diesel engines (it's not applicable to petrols anyway).

HGVs have been using DEF/Adblue for some time now.

Ingenium engines - csgmart

According the Land Rover if you take out a service plan for the Ingenium engine the service interval is 21,000 miles and you get free Adblue top ups in between each service. They reckon on 1 top up between services (based on doing 21k miles) so thats roughly 10,000 miles between top ups.

Ingenium engines - Brit_in_Germany

At least in the Jaguar XE version, the handbook says a litre of AdBlue should last 1000 miles with the tank containing between 9 and 17 litres depending on model. There doesn't appear to be anything stopping you topping up yourself, either.

Ingenium engines - slkfanboy

Sounds like a lot of AdBlue for a 1000miles did mean 10000 miles? The Adblue increases the exhaust gas temp. to hopefully prevent DPF issues.

Edited by slkfanboy on 10/09/2015 at 13:01

Ingenium engines - Brit_in_Germany

According to Wikipedia, consumption od AdBlue is about 2% of diesel volume.

Ingenium engines - Avant

Inevitably there are going to be people who don't care / don't bother to faff about with AdBlue. Anyone know what happens if it isn't added as per instructions?

Ingenium engines - RT

Inevitably there are going to be people who don't care / don't bother to faff about with AdBlue. Anyone know what happens if it isn't added as per instructions?

The engine won't start !

That's at the point when in runs out - until then it'll just display messages.

Ingenium engines - daveyK_UK

Dear OP,

I think the dealer is wrong.

1,000 mile intervals is way to short a duration unless the ad blue tank is tiny!

Ingenium engines - skidpan

The Adblue increases the exhaust gas temp. to hopefully prevent DPF issues.

Adblue had nothing whatsoever to do with the DPF. Adblue is solely to reduce NOX.

The additive that increased the exhaust temp is EOLYS and that has been around for years. The only cars that need it are those where the DPF is remote form the turbo thus cannot manage to increase the exhaust temp sufficiently for a regen with the increased diesel injected. The 1.4/1.6 engine in Peugeot/Citroen/Ford/Mini/Mazda/Volvo is the main user.