Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - jane_woken

I just bought a this car Ford fiesta v reg (year 1999) with 127000 miles millage, for £300 only. The car drives good. But the problem is this that when it's CAM belt got changed, I don't know. As I do not have history of this car. The cost to change the cam belt is £250. What do you people think that can this car do 127000 miles millage without changing the CAM belt even for single time? Because If the CAM belt got changed even single time, then I think I can drive till at least 140000 miles millage.

Also Is it accident risk, if my CAM belt gets broken during drive?

I really need your advice people. So please advice me.

Edited by jane_woken on 21/05/2015 at 14:40

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - skidpan

Ford recommend cam belt changes on this engine at 100,000 miles or 10 years (whichever comes up first). If yours has not been done its well over both. If there is no record assume its not been done.

If it breaks the engine will almost certainly be wrecked.

Also Is it accident risk, if my CAM belt gets broken during drive?

Not quite sure what that means but I assume you are asking would it be overed by your insurance, the answer would be no unless you have specific (and expensive) mechanical breakdown cover which is unlikely on a 16 year old car.

If you do get the belt replaced ensure the garage replaces the guide pulleys, tensioner and water pump. Unfortunately this will add to the parts costs quite a bit but will add very little to the labour.

So in the works of Clint Eastwood "are you feeling lucky".

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - carl233

I stand to be correced but I thought on the Zetec-s engines the water pump was not driven by the timing belt? As per the advise given essential that the tensioner and pulleys are replaced. It is availble as a complete kit from Ford.

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - elekie&a/c doctor
Yes,you are correct.water pump driven from poly vee belt.Also cam belt change will need a new crank pulley bolt for the correct tension on the pulley as there is no key way on crank.
Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - John F

I would inspect it. Look and listen. Despite the 10yr/100k recommendation (thought to be hugely optimistic by the discredited twentieth century doomsters) on a car that price if it looks and sounds OK I would gamble that it would last the life of the engine.

Our Focus, similar engine, similar age, 107,000m, is only worth a similar amount and I have no intention of changing its cambelt. It is a robust design not known for failure. We had a Passat back in the 80s which did around double your mileage on its original belt.

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - Galaxy

With the Zetec engine, as fitted to this Fiesta, it's never the cambelt itself that breaks. It's the pulleys or tensioner the belt runs around which break-up first.

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - mfarrow

OP hasn't said yet whether it's a 1.3 with pushrods and chain...

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - jc2

OP hasn't said yet whether it's a 1.3 with pushrods and chain...

Why would you want to change a non-existant cambelt?

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - jane_woken

My friend warn me that if I will not change the CAM belt, I can have bad accident on some long journey on motorway. Also I can kill my engine, if i will not chnage th cambelt. I don't know how True is his words. That's why dicussing this issue with you guys. The millage is already 127000, and I don't want to do more than 6000 to 7000 more on this car. But changing CAM belt of worth £300 car seems not a good idea. So that's why I need you advices under your experiences.

Also what could be the Maximum age of this Ford's model original CAM belt.

what you say guys??

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - old-school-tech

maybe you could ask the cambelt if it wouldn't mind holding out for another 6 or 7,000 miles, Most cambelts I know are decent and don't mind doing this if you ask them nicely, But I have heard stories of certain belts agreeing to stay in 1 piece and then snapping after only 1 or 2,000 miles, completely unfair and unsporting behaviour if you ask me, but..as i always say, never trust a the word of an old cambelt.

seriously though, It doesn't matter how long you want it to last for, when your belt has had enough its gonna let you know..usually when you are miles from home.

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - Galaxy

I've read in previous HJ posts from techs in Ford Main Dealers that they've come across Ford cars fitted with Zetec engines which have done 125K on the original cambelt.

But, to answer your question, OP, you would need a crystal ball!

Of course, what you also have to consider is that your car only cost £300 because it needed, or probably needed, a new cambelt to be fitted. Had it recently had a new belt fitted then it would have obviously cost more.

As an example, I currently have a Mondeo sitting in my driveway which would probably be worth about £500. However, to make it useable, it needs a complete new clutch, the cost of doing the job being £500. See my point!

Edited by Galaxy on 22/05/2015 at 12:47

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - skidpan

I stand to be correced but I thought on the Zetec-s engines the water pump was not driven by the timing belt?

I am fully aware that the water pump is not driven off the cam belt but if the waterpump has an issue in the future (highly possible after 16 years) its a full strip of the timing belt etc to access the pump. For an additional £40 approx its crazy not to replace it at this opportunity.

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - Galaxy

I stand to be correced but I thought on the Zetec-s engines the water pump was not driven by the timing belt?

I am fully aware that the water pump is not driven off the cam belt but if the waterpump has an issue in the future (highly possible after 16 years) its a full strip of the timing belt etc to access the pump. For an additional £40 approx its crazy not to replace it at this opportunity.

Only on a "Silver Top". "Black Top" Zetec engine used a different layout; I changed the water pump on my Mondeo without touching the cambelt at all.

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - jane_woken

It's going to be my first car. I don't know much about cars. So Advice please ....

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - jane_woken

I mean, should I change the CAM belt, or can this work few thousands miles more? just asking

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - Ordovices

Save your money and keep driving.

If this belt does fail, you'll have the £250 you didn't spend on a cam belt to put towards a replacement car, and as you spent £300 to buy your current car, the £250 plus any scrap value for the old one will make you just about even.

If the cambelt fails whilst you're driving, it makes an unpleasant noise and the power delivery stops. Even on a motorway, it would be pretty much like taking your foot off the gas and coasting to a halt. Just dipping the clutch will let you coast even further.

Edited by Ordovices on 22/05/2015 at 16:51

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - Galaxy

As I have previously mentioned, you would need a crystal ball in order to determine exactly how long a cambelt is going to last and exactly when it is going to break.

The Ford Motor Company's recommendation for changing the cambelt on your car is 100,000 miles or ten years, whichever is reached first.

You say your car has done 127,000 miles which means, if this is the cambelt which was fitted to the car when it was manufactured, it's already 27,000 over the recommended Ford limit, so should be changed immediately. Some people say that the limits for changing cambelts given by Ford are far too high, anyway. Indeed, Ford cambelts have been known to break well before 100,000 miles or 10 years of useage; in actual fact, it's usually the pulleys or tensioner which go rather than the belt itself.

If the belt itself or the pulleys do break then it will wreck the engine. The car will either need to have a new engine fitted or, more likely with a car that's only worth £300, the car will have to be scrapped.

Your cambelt could last another 50,000 miles, or, it could break tomorrow; there's absolutely now way of knowing, not even if the belt were to be examined.

I'm afraid the question you are asking is impossible for anyone to answer. Please try to understand this.

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - skidpan

Only on a "Silver Top". "Black Top" Zetec engine used a different layout; I changed the water pump on my Mondeo without touching the cambelt at all.

Fully aware of that. I have a Silvertop and a Blacktop in the garage.

But this is a 1999 Fiesta and they did not fit Blacktop engines to them. It would be fitted with the Zetec SE (what is now known as the Duratec but was also called the Sigma for a time) which is a totally different engine to either of the Mondeo Zetec's you refer to. It was co-designed by Yamaha and was (is) available in 1.25, 1.4, 1.6 and in the Puma a 1.7 format. All aluminium construction, the Mondeo Zetec you refer to has an iron Block.

As far as I am aware on the Fiesta "Zetec" motor the cam belt is affected by water pump removal but personally never done one so there could be a way round it.

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - thunderbird

Assuming this is not one of the regular troll queries the forum gets I think there are 4 possible scenarios.

1 The OP will be lucky and get several years out of the car with no issues

2 The car had the belt changed at 10 years/100000 miles as per Fords scehedule and a genuine Ford part was fittes along with all the pulleys and tensioners meaning there is 4 years or 60000 miles to the next scheduled replacement

3 The belt will break while the OP is driving and the car will be an uneconomic repair as a result

4 The belt will break while the OP is driving and the car will crash in a fireball killing the OP and a family of 7 ina people carrier

Guess its all down to luck.

Ford fiesta v reg CAM belt - alastairq

The belt could have been changed a year or so ago? Without evidence, no one will know.

Keep going with the car as is for now.

Better to spend a few quid on breakdown/recovery cover...just in case?

Then, if the belt lets go, the breakdown people will get the OP home.