In our company we have two Qashqais; the last of the old models and a new model, both Tekna with the 1.6Dci engine. We thought the old model was good (and it is) but the new model is superb. You cannot buy the new model in Tekna with the 1.5dCi but friends who have the 1.5dCi say the spec is very good and of course the basic car is the same.

The new model has a very clear dashboard, excellent driving position, spacious interior and my member of staff who drives it (25,000 miles pa) is just over the moon.

I had a panoramic roof in my old S-Max. It was fine but sometimes there was too much light to see the central screen properly.

Are rear seat passengers a factor here? My only experience of the previous QQ was to sit in the back of one. I was surprised at how claustrophobic it felt, even with light coming through the panoramic roof.

Our dog much prefers our C class estate to the C max - I think it's because there are decent side windows in a proper estate car for them to look out of. Sorry you've had a bad experience with your C max OP, we've been really happy with ours, but you pay your money and make your choice, so if you fancy a Scenic... back on topic now.

Daughter in law bought a second hand car recently, local Nissan Dealer (Evan Halshaw) told her categorically "We don't do discount, madam." We don't have to because our prices are so competitive."

She then went and paid the asking price!! And ended up paying extra for road tax, hpi check and some other things too. Then she contacted me when they refused to produce evidence of the full service history. The tripe that the salesmen came out with is too tedious to repeat here.

Just an update... Put a deposit on a 2014 (64) 1.5 Tekna up in the Wolverhampton (I'm in Essex). Travel up to collect Friday.

Thanks. Appreciate your comments. The sicky feeling does worry me a little, but I'll not mentioned it to those who sit in the back, just note the colour on their faces from time to time...

Well I purchased the said car and after a couple of weeks of ownership I'm happy with what I got. Agreed it's perhaps not the most exciting car to drive, but it's comfortable and so far economical.

The car itself was in poor condition considering it's only 6/7 months old. Obviously never seen a bucket of soapy water in that time, but I can see through all that and realised for the money I got a decent deal. Software/firmware for the radio needs updating and that's booked in with my local dealer for a weeks time.

Plus point is the garage serviced the car so don't have to worry about that for another 12 months. The ride can be a little bouncy and I'm conscious of that when there are passengers in the back (car sickness)