Buying spares off ebay - Chris M

What are Backroomers opinions on buying car spares off ebay? Personally I have doubts about the provenance of some of the items. I don't have a problem buying some cheap pattern parts as long as they are not safety related, but if it's a branded part at a pattern price, that makes me suspicious.

As an example, I've been looking for Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited H4 today. ECP have them for £17.99 and autobulbsdirect for £18.45, both with free delivery. A search on ebay brings up prices from £10.99 delivered. Many from sellers with 99%+ feedback scores from thousands of buyers.

No such thing as a free lunch or are ECP and the other online bulb stores taking the urine?

Buying spares off ebay - RobJP

Do remember that the feedback is usually left soon after delivery.

Whether the bulb (or whatever cheap part it may be) is still working 3 months later is a different matter entirely.

Buying spares off ebay - elekie&a/c doctor

Unfortunately there are loads of top brand fakes on flea-bay.Osram headlight bulbs at around £18 will be genuine,anything for a lot less will be fake.Annoyingly the cheapos will probably work,but if they are compared to the real deal then you will see the difference in performance and manufacture.

Buying spares off ebay (EB) - Fernando P

I have a contrary view on this and have successfully purchased manufacturers OEM parts off EB ie filters, where I can see the wrapping (and often the part) with the part reference. I was satisfied that they were all OEM and as described. There could be many genuine reasons for selling such parts, including the fact that some are no longer required by vehicle owners etc. But unlike you, there is no way I would buy a cheap pattern part off EB as the country of origin is not always what is seems! I found this out the hard way once as I had to repeat several hours of labour to change the cheap part ( a bush), which failed after a couple of months. With cheap pattern parts, there is no such thing as "a free lunch" in my experience.

Buying spares off ebay (EB) - Hamsafar

ECP sell the same parts cheaper on ebay despite presumably having to pay their fees. I have never had a problem qith parts on ebay but I do google image search parts so I know whay they should look like and I do usually buy from autofactors or brand dealers on ebay. TRW have an iphone app that you use to scan a 3d barcode on their parts which then confirms what the part is and flags up if the unique barcode has been scanned before. Simple but effective anti-fake technique.

Buying spares off ebay (EB) - Chris M

We have all seen TV programmes where the expert from Trading Standards compares the real item with fake and can tell because something like the font on the packaging is wrong, or something else you could only spot by directly comparing genuine with fake. With a good fake the punter doesn't really stand a chance.

A bulb isn't really a safety item; it either works or it doesn't. Saving a few quid up front for a bulb that doesn't perform any better than a £2.50 one or fails in a few months, isn't a saving. A fake Mintex brake pad could work OK in normal driving but an in an emergency fads to nothing.

Buying spares off ebay (EB) - elekie&a/c doctor

I do think headlight bulbs are a safety item,especially when a fake Osram bulb in a made to look like genuine package,when fitted ,the light beam points up into the sky instead of onto the road/kerb because the filament and support wires are completely out of alignment.Also the glass bulb envelope was not made square onto the metal flange/base.

Buying spares off ebay (EB) - brum

Apply some common sense......

Standard Osram headlight bulbs i.e. the type fitted by manufacturers retail at around £3, distributor pricing is a lot less, they actually cost pence to manufacture, inc overheads.

Night breaker plus advertise +90%, but Osram won't tell you that it is referenced against some obscure standard that even the cheapest chinese bulb can beat, and that they are at best only 10-20% or so brighter than their oe bulbs and "whiter" because they run at higher temperature, and so have a much shorter service life.

In other words its a marketing trick.

The ebay sellers at £11 per pair are the genuine articles, there are very few if any fake OSRAM nightbreakers on ebay.

Ebay is a great source of cheaper parts for cars, ECP, GSF also trade on ebay under different trading names. There is a lot of crap out there but many high street factors, yes even Halfords etc also carry a lot of crap lines. Use common sense and research what you are buying, before you order....ebay guarantees the description must match what you receive.

Buying spares off ebay (EB) - bathtub tom

>>even Halfords etc also carry a lot of crap lines

Bought some Moprod brand disc pads from that place many years ago. They faded to nothing coming down a Welsh road and I was looking at stuffing it into the side, when I managed to grab second at around 50MPH and with the handbrake got it down to a manageable speed.

Changed them for something reputable as soon as I got home and am very cautious about buying anything from that place!

Buying spares off ebay (EB) - focussed

>>even Halfords etc also carry a lot of crap lines

Bought some Moprod brand disc pads from that place many years ago. They faded to nothing coming down a Welsh road and I was looking at stuffing it into the side, when I managed to grab second at around 50MPH and with the handbrake got it down to a manageable speed.

Changed them for something reputable as soon as I got home and am very cautious about buying anything from that place!

Iv'e had a similar problem in the past with original makers disc pads on a Volvo 240 DL.

Had it serviced at the approved Volvo dealer, it was a company car, a week or so later came steaming down a wet and cold M1 to get into the office just off J5, got up the slip road to get on the A41, trod on the brakes, nothing there, pressed harder they started to work, frantic downchanges etc-just got it stopped before the roundabout.

Huge bollicking on the phone to the dealer "Oh Yeah - we've had an SB about that-there's been a mistake on the pad grade, they don't work very well in the cold and wet"

Tell me about it- I just found that out etc etc( much bad language etc)

"Bring it in we'll fit some taxi pads instead"

With them if you put your foot anywhere near the brake pedal it would stand the car on it's nose.

Edited by focussed on 30/11/2014 at 00:00

Buying spares off ebay (EB) - TedCrilly

Since the introduction of ECE-90 there are no longer any poor performing brake componenets on the market.......asuming of course the market you use is legitimate.

Buying spares off ebay (EB) - Chris M

But isn't that the point TedCrilly, any Chinese counterfaker can stick ECE-90 on his brake pads made out of compressed pig poo and you or I would be none the wiser until it mattered most.

Brum, I just can't see how an ebay seller can source genuine Nightbreakers and deliver them for £11 when the going rate with the 'trusted' retailers is £18. ECP's & GSF's buying power must mean they should be pretty competitive. They don't have the shiney palaces of Halfords. Unless there's a bit of price fixing going on............

Edited by Chris M on 30/11/2014 at 10:02

Buying spares off ebay (EB) - alan1302

Brum, I just can't see how an ebay seller can source genuine Nightbreakers and deliver them for £11 when the going rate with the 'trusted' retailers is £18. ECP's & GSF's buying power must mean they should be pretty competitive. They don't have the shiney palaces of Halfords. Unless there's a bit of price fixing going on............

Depends if they are running a proper business or not. If they are just buying them at trade and then selling them from their living room they won't have the normal overheads of a fully fledges business or they could even have the on at the wrong price.

Buying spares off ebay (EB) - Hamsafar

Since the introduction of ECE-90 there are no longer any poor performing brake componenets on the market.......asuming of course the market you use is legitimate.

You would think so, but the £26 E-90 Allied Nippon pads I bought for my Audi A8L (during a particulaly financially challenging period) were made of soot and cow dung in India and it was like somebody had oiled the discs. I took them off after a week and put some £75 Mintex ones on which were back to normal.

Buying spares off ebay (EB) - Wackyracer

There can be some genuine cheap parts on Ebay and there can be some fakes sold for about the right price so as not to arouse suspicion.

I found a part I needed on Ebay for a reasonable price and the company selling it was a big reputable independant Vauxhall specialist. When I questioned why their price on Ebay was cheaper than they sell them for on their own website and at their trade counter, They said it was to attract sales on Ebay and that it was sold on a break even basis just to get a larger customer database (market share). It must work as I've since spent alot of money with them over the years.

Having said that, There were lots of people selling Vauxhall oil on Ebay and some of them were selling fakes for a pound cheaper than the genuine article. In which case the price was not an obvious indication that it wasn't genuine.

The only way to be sure is to buy from companies you know are genuine.