1986 Daihatsu Skywing - "Missing" rear brake nipple? - edlithgow

I only seem to have a bleed nipple on the RHS rear wheel.

I'm assuming this is unusual, but I havn't bled many cars (and those a long time ago) so I don't have experience of a large range of models.

Is it unheard of?

Its possible, I suppose, that it broke off and/or was blanked off in the past, but I can't see a sign of it now.

This car won't exist in the UK, but its mostly like a G10 Charade, which I believe do exist there but are very rare.

I'll try and get a look under another Skywing here in Taiwan, but they are rather rare here now too.

1986 Daihatsu Skywing - "Missing" rear brake nipple? - skidpan

Many older cars only had a brake bleed nipple on one rear wheel. A pipe crossed over from one side to the other meaning that you bled both of the rear brakes from just the one side. If you look at the wheel cylinder they will have 2 threads, one for the pipe and one normally for the nipple. On one side there wil be a pipe in and out. Hope that makes sense.

1986 Daihatsu Skywing - "Missing" rear brake nipple? - edlithgow

Thanks. Didn't know that, but it seems to exactly describe the setup on this car.

I suppose IF it makes bleeding less efficient I could loosen a brake pipe, but for now I'll just bleed from the one nipple as you suggest. No point in looking for trouble.

First I have to get the wheel off. VERY solid wheel nuts, How come I never have a scaffolding pole about me when I need one?

1986 Daihatsu Skywing - "Missing" rear brake nipple? - skidpan

I suppose IF it makes bleeding less efficient I could loosen a brake pipe, but for now I'll just bleed from the one nipple

It doesn't make bleeding less efficient, it works fine. Loosening a brake pipe will probably allow air in and make the brakes very soft.

First I have to get the wheel off. VERY solid wheel nuts, How come I never have a scaffolding pole about me when I need one?

Wheel nuts should be torqued up to the manufacturers figure. Any more and you will damage and weaken the fastners. Most I have ever seen is about 80 lbs/ft and it is quite easy to undo a fastner at that figure with a regulat ratchet wrench. If you need a scaffold pole a complete idiot has tightened them.

1986 Daihatsu Skywing - "Missing" rear brake nipple? - edlithgow

The nuts were dry. I used a long (maybe 5ft or so) piece of tube on a breaker bar. I greased them and applied PTFE thread tape when I put them back on, so they should be OK next time.

The only time I can remember literally having to use a scaffolding pole was on my (actually "student syndicate" owned) first car, a Triumph 1300, bought at auction and put in a large shiny commercial garage in Leeds (can't unfortunately remember the name, but I'd hope they'd be out of business by now) straight after for a "free safety inspection".

They came up with quite a long list of defects, most of which were suspect and not confirmed by my own or a later MOT inspection, and which we couldn't afford to have them fix anyway, so we bought some oil off them and said thanks but no thanks.

They'd had the wheels off, and had tightened the nuts up with pneumatic wrenches.

They may have been complete idiots, or they may have been complete s***s, or perhaps both.

Dunno, but I never delt with commercial garages if I could help it, ever again.

1986 Daihatsu Skywing - "Missing" rear brake nipple? - Wackyracer

Using PTFE tape on wheel studs is not such a good idea.

1986 Daihatsu Skywing - "Missing" rear brake nipple? - skidpan

Using PTFE tape on wheel studs is not such a good idea.

That is correct. It will prevent you from setting them at the correct torque. All that is needed is a slight smear of Copaslip.

1986 Daihatsu Skywing - "Missing" rear brake nipple? - edlithgow

Can't get Copaslip here.

I've used aluminium foil and a rub with an old tyre weight as alternative improvisations(combined with grease) in the past, but didn't have either handy.at the time.

I've used PTFE on other wheels but havn't had this one off before.

Don't think I've ever used a torque wrench on a wheel nut, Be mildly interesting to try it sometime, and find out how far out I've been, unless they specify the torque dry (as they often do with fastners), which I'm not likely to follow.

I've never seen a satisfactory resolution of the dry/lube controversy with respect to torque settings, Doing it dry and recording the angular movement, then lubing, might be best, but it doesn't seem to be necessary for wheel nuts.

They don't seem to come loose, and I havn't broken any studs yet,Touch wood.