Toyota Yaris Verso - Yaris Verso replacement required - Steamdrivenandy

I spent part of this afternoon fiddling about with Mrs SDA's '54 reg. Verso. It's the first time for a long while that it's been necessary to drop the rear seats and I'd almost forgotten how you have to do it and what an enormous space results. Over 2000 litres of boot space in a relatively small vehicle with a 1.3 litre engine and a 'proper' torque converter autobox.

It got me thinking that we should be thinking about a replacement, but I can't think of anything that comes vaguely close. Bigger car/vans with similar capacities, but 1.6 litre engines and autoboxes that are dire. The Verso design hails from nearly 20 years ago and I thought engines and transmissions had got better in those two decades, but it appears they've got worse.

Can anybody suggest something with 2000+ litre bootspace, 3.9m long or thereabouts, 1.3 litre or less engine and a smooth autobox?

Toyota Yaris Verso - Yaris Verso replacement required - Avant

You haven't said what your budget is, but whether new or secondhand the following may be worth a look.

Skoda Yeti or Roomster (these can come with a lively 1.2 TSI engine)

Citroen Berlingo (or Peugeot equivalent)

Citroen C3 Picasso

Ford C-Max or B-Max

Dacia Duster

Renault Captur

The Skodas can have a DSG but I'm not sure what sort of auto is available with the others.

Toyota Yaris Verso - Yaris Verso replacement required - gordonbennet

Smooth auto box rules out almost everything else, leaves you with newish Jazz, and possibly Daihatsu Materia, Sirion not as big but a superb car if you can cope with slightly less room.

Toyota Yaris Verso - Yaris Verso replacement required - Steamdrivenandy

Jazz OK, but nowhere near 2000 litres.

Specs say Materia only 600 litres

Citroen auto gearboxes not good, C3 hasn't the boot space, Berlingo bigger all round

BMax auto is 1.6 and like the Skoda has a DSG box with potential issues and the its boot is too small.

Not enthusiastic about any Renaults and I'll check the Dacia specs.

Toyota Yaris Verso - Yaris Verso replacement required - HandCart

There isn't anything, apart from perhaps the latest Verso-S, but I don't suppose that will have a torque-converter.

The original Yaris Verso was amazing. Toyota waited years and replaced it with something that still wasn't as good.

Why not kep the current car?

However - you said that it's been a long time since you dropped the rear seats in the car - so just how much do you need 2,000 litres of boot?

Toyota Yaris Verso - Yaris Verso replacement required - Steamdrivenandy

In the days before we had a campervan (and now a caravan) we used to put one dog in the Verso boot with the Toyota dog guard in place, then drop the rear seats and put the other dog in a crate on the flat loadspace.

That was fine until we wanted to holiday and then we had a brainwave and packed a big suitcase which slid on top of the dog crate. Handily Toyota sell/sold a luggage net that hangs behind the front seats, so if the case slid forward it wouldn't wallop the backs of our heads. Not many cars would have the headroom for that sort of arrangement.

With a new puppy the crate is coming back into use, hence my fiddling about with the seats. In truth having it set up as a van might help Mrs SDA anyway as she's a choral director and travels about with music stand, conductor's stool and boxes and boxes of folders/sheet music.

The Verso S is but a pale shadow of the Yaris Verso without the signature ENORMOUS boot. It diddn't last very long on Toyota's UK model list. I believe the autobox was a CVT rather like the first and the current Jazz.

Edited by Steamdrivenandy on 17/07/2014 at 19:38

Toyota Yaris Verso - Yaris Verso replacement required - Auristocrat

The reasons that the Verso S was withdrawn from the UK market was low sales volumes and, as it was manufactured in Japan, the unfavourable exchange rates affected viability. Similar story with the Urban Cruiser and the IQ. The exchange rate situation was also why Daihatsu withdrew from Europe.

Edited by Auristocrat on 17/07/2014 at 20:40

Toyota Yaris Verso - Yaris Verso replacement required - Rhubarb

The Kia Venga & Hyundai ix20 are compact MPVs with slush boxes. The cars are a little over 4m and have more room with the seats up (440 litres) than most C segment hatches. You'll have to take the 1.6 to get the auto though.

Toyota Yaris Verso - Yaris Verso replacement required - Rhubarb

Sorry: by 'slush box' I meant conventional torque converter auto.

Toyota Yaris Verso - Yaris Verso replacement required - Steamdrivenandy

'Slush' box as opposed to 'Jerk' box I guess..

Toyota Yaris Verso - Yaris Verso replacement required - skidpan

Over 2000 litres of boot space in a relatively small vehicle with a 1.3 litre engine and a 'proper' torque converter autobox.

The 2000 litres quoted by Toyota is clearly with the car filled to the roof nternally and beyond. Even our Ceed SW, which is a good sized estate only has a quoted 1600 litres of space with therar seats folded and is probably 2 ft longer than the Yaris Verso.

Ford quote the huge Mondeo estate as 1728 litres and the positively masive S Max as 2000 litres.

There is no way your Yaris Verso is 2000 litres.

I think you need to do waht I do when I buy a car, for the quoted figures and go out with a tape. That way you are sure of the actual boot space including the actual lengths and widths.

Toyota Yaris Verso - Yaris Verso replacement required - Steamdrivenandy

It's actually 2160 litres and MY Cee'd SW is 1664 litres. There's not many cars can beat it, a Galaxy at 2325, a Grand Picasso at 2181, a Santa Fe at 2213 and the current Berlingo at 3000 litres are some.

As you say SP it's down to the height as the second boot measurement is always taken to the roofline. As I posted earlier we managed to fit a 2ft plus high dog crate with a 15inch suitcase on top with no problem with the rear seats folded away under the front seats.