Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - Dacia or not

Anyone else out there got a rusting Duster, collected ours December 2013 and it is rusting through the paint work on all the seams.

If you check the Dacia forum, you will see that lots are beginning to rust.

Horrible feeling it will be as bad as Dacias last visit to the UK

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - Auristocrat

Think for the UK market the Dusters are built in India

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - daveyK_UK

No rust on the German, French, Italian, Spanish, etc sold Dusters which have been out for years.

Why?

Because they are made in a well run Romanian factory.

The Duster sold in the UK is made in an Indian factory who still haven't understood the concept of quality control.

Dacia (Renault) are not the only vehicle manufacture to suffer from mixed quality in an India factory.

Its a cultural issue, the Indian mentality is to never admit to not doing something or tell anyone.

Renault have known about the concerns with the quality of products coming out of the India factory. Renault have generally ignored the complaints of Indian buyers, and put the poor quality of the first batch of Dusters to arrive in the UL down to the factory running at maximum capacity.

They have told the team at the port of Tyne to ensure full quality control and put right any problems.

This is fine for small issues, but bigger underlying problems such as poorly painted panels will take a bit longer to manifest.

It also adds further delay to the customerS wait.

Looks like it will be well worth paying the £800 to extend the warranty to 7 years if you purchase a INdian built Duster.

may I add, the sandero, sandero step away and the Logan MCV which are all built in Romania have no such rust issues.

Edited by daveyK_UK on 30/04/2014 at 22:18

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - jc2

Romania=LHD. INDIA=RHD.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - memyself-aye

We own two Suzuki Alto's made in India and have had no problems such as those described.

Maybe the issues are with Dacia rather than with India......

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - retgwte

Its not India so much as how new the Dacia production is there, and its taking them a long time to get to a similar quality to their other plants.

India produces right hand drive dusters which are significantly less good than their left hand drive equivalents made in Romania. Other right hand drive Dacias, the Stepway and Sandero, are made in Romania do not suffer these problems.

I had a hyundai made in India, which was OK but nowhere near as good as hyundai's made in other factories elsewhere in the world.

Isnt the new micra made in India? whats it like?

the fiat 1.3 diesel engine is made in India, and they have quite a good reputation.

India is not a place you use for quality, its a place you use for cheap.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - xtrailman

I'm happy buying cars made in japan, sounds like india is the new BL, only not made here anylonger.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - daveyK_UK

The earlier comment from an owner of the latest shape suzuki alto/nissan pixo must be very lucky, lots of complaints about the poor build quality.

The duster is actually a good car, but the Indian factory seems totally clueless.

There is nothing the UK customers are complaining about that the Indian customers havent already. Renaults response so far is to ignore all complaints.

Excellent customer service from Renault yet again.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - Auristocrat

The Ford Eco Sport is built in Brazil, Chennai India and Thailand.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - Alby Back
'No such thing as a free lunch' scenario maybe?
Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - jgrahampo

How does a Korando stack up against a Duster?

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - bananastand

When I went to Romania a couple of times in 1990, it seemed that every single car was a Dacia, in the shape of the old renault whateveritwas. How that relates to this thread I'm not sure but there you go.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - peter163

hi all,iam from the dacia forum members,i have a rusting dacia duster!all door seals,child locks both sides,and passeger door hitting the wing been told that door and wing only have 3 months garentie??????? had this car 13 months been waiting on door seals since feb but nothing been done,so made a visit to renault headoffice london this week as was so annoyed!!!! saw a customer service manager who said he would sort it out but still waiting had photos taking at a accident/repair centre here in southampton!!!! igot this car on finance paid 1year now and dont dont how i stand if i reject/take back the car,as had loads of other problems that need sorting big mistake of my life!!! see my threads on daica duster forum!!!! how many drivers had this many problems!!!! & visit to dacia/renault head office..

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - A3 A4

I was seriously considering getting a Duster as a cheap 4x4 second car, and joined the Dacia Forum when I heard about the corrosion problems. They seemed a pretty unfriendly bunch refusing to accept that their cars could be problematic.

I guess if you consider the car as 'white goods' and be prepared to bin the car at the end of its life its OK.

Sadly the Sandero and its derivatives do look a good buy.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - SteveLee

I beleive it's only the UK Dusters that are the problem as they are thrown together in India. The Sanderos Stepway AFAIK is not made in India and should be fine.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - daveyK_UK

I very much doubt Renault would be so quiet on the issue if French and German buyers where suffering from poorly build Dusters.

They seem to have given up trying to improve the quality of the Indian factory, its as if Indian and British customers don't matter.

How can you make something so well in your Romanian factory that sells in big volumes and is well regarded and yet make the exact same product in your Indian factory so badly?


Edited by daveyK_UK on 30/05/2014 at 23:00

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - daveyK_UK

www.daciaforum.co.uk/topic/706-do-you-have-a-rusty...7

A user on the dacia forum got a PX price for his 1 year old basic duster, £4,500.

Looks like a great 2nd hand bargain.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - doctorchris

www.dacia.co.uk/about-dacia/dacia-news/dacia-duste...p

Dacia admit, in the above statement, that some Dusters have "concerns with the paintwork protection".

Those with potentially affected vehicles will be contacted to arrange an inspection and a number to call Dacia Customer Relations is also given.

The rusty Duster topic on the Dacia Forum has gone ballistic today!

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - gordonbennet

What a mess, i had a great hopes for these cars, but it sounds like a return to 70's minus the fun, mechanically reasonably simple cars, but made of cheese.

Refunds or replacement vehicles on the cards i wonder?, either way used values will plummet.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - daveyK_UK

Its worth repeating, the rust issue and poor build quality is only on the UK spec RHD Dusters built in India.

The mainland EU Romanian LHD Dusters are fine and sell well.

The whole brand shouldn't suffer although it may, because Renault have been slow and tried to bury its head in the sand over the poor quality control In the Indian factory.

It would appear Renault have turned a blind eye to the poor practices in India because they build cars so cheaply; they can afford to spend up to a week at the port of tyne being fixed and a fair few warranty claims per Duster.

But what they can't afford (although Im not sure they realise yet) is such bad publicity it kills the brand.

Edited by daveyK_UK on 17/06/2014 at 01:29

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - A3 A4

Its worth repeating, the rust issue and poor build quality is only on the UK spec RHD Dusters built in India.

The mainland EU Romanian LHD Dusters are fine and sell well.

Not if you read the Dacia Forum linked to above, there have been issues with LHD models.

It'll be interesting to see what course of action Renualt\Dacia take, it looks as if anything short of a complete strip down, re prep and respray will not correct the issue and as the vehicles are rapidly devaluing would that be cost effective?

I only hope that for anyone who has purchased a 'problem' vehicle a satisfactory solution is found.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters - AlexT

"Not if you read the Dacia Forum linked to above, there have been issues with LHD models."

Of course there have been issues, it's the low budget version of renault.

I'm romanian, the only reasons loads of people buy dacia here are :

1. Cheap to fix- as someone said, anything breaks, you can fix it with only 1-2 months wages (4-500 pounds worst case scenario), foreign cars are expensive for parts, dacia are not.

2. Mechanics know every inch of the logan here, will fix stuff fast and cheaper than a vw or a toyota.

3. The only car they can afford to buy new, for very many people.

4. You find parts in any part shop, in stock, no need to order, they are everywhere.

This being said, they are ok cars, I've seen taxis with 5-600 000 km on the clock and still going. In bucharest 90% of taxis are logan. I have not yet seen a rusted duster, maybe there are some, I just have not yet seen them.

Not a car to pick up chicks, but will get you from A to B. Hey, in the right village here chicks will be impressed you have A CAR!

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters - AlexT

Also on the subject of RO cars, Ford B-max is also made in Romania, www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2924158/posts

It's not that I don't like dacias, it's just not seen as anything especially good here. I now have a toyota and people always say how good it is.

Edited by AlexT on 17/06/2014 at 20:19

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters - groaver

I now have a toyota and people always say how good it is.

You'll get on famously with some people on here... :-"

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters - daveyK_UK

Rumours the Dacia Duster RHD built in India for the UK will be making an appearance on watchdog!

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters - doctorchris

I had a rusty Duster and the dealer and Dacia were quietly ignoring my requests for something to be done about it. I didn't push as I was too busy actually using the car, travelling up and down the country. I would now be seeking a repair if the car hadn't been written off a couple of months ago. I did OK out of this,as it happens. Lost about £2000 on the new value of the car but it had been driven 18,000 miles so fairly cheap motoring. In addition I got rid of a rusting vehicle and all the hassle of repair.

The other side of the coin, my wife has a 1.2 Sandero which has given a year and 11,000 miles fault-free service. No corrosion. A pleasure to drive because of its simplicity. It cost £6,600 so we don't worry about leaving it in supermarket car parks, out in the street and so on. It has a few minor dents and scrapes because of this but we just ignore them. That, to my mind really is trouble-free motoring!

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters - Avant

That Sandero makes a lot of sense, Dr Chris. Out of interest what have you replaced the Ruster with? I seem to remember you used to be a fan of the 4 x 4 Fiat Panda.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters - doctorchris

The Panda 4x4 fell out of favour with me when my turbodiesel-engined Cross (Mk3 Panda) needed a new turbo at relatively few miles. Then, with the Mk4 Panda Fiat made the vehicles over complex and ornate and went silly with the prices.

Since I bought the Duster my circumstances have changed. I've moved from Sunderland to Somerset and my mileage will be very low (in fact no car of my own just now, all local trips are by bicycle). It rarely snows here so I've given up on deceiving myself that I need 4x4. Based on the very positive experience of the Sandero I've ordered a Dacia Logan MCV 0.9Tce. It's basically a Sandero estate with a massive load area. As it's a heavier car with a greater load area I've avoided the 1.2 petrol engine. Low mileage means I've avoided the diesel model so I'm having a punt on the tiny 900cc petrol turbo!

The cost of the new vehicle, around £9000, is more or less covered by the insurance payout. So, again looking forward to relatively low cost and hopefully trouble-free motoring from my new Dacia.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters - daveyK_UK

Dr.Chris

I agree with you about the Logan, its the real bargain and best value.

It drives really well with the 1.2 engine, i was suprised how well it pulled.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters - focussed

Not a car to pick up chicks, but will get you from A to B. Hey, in the right village here chicks will be impressed you have A CAR!

Really made me laugh-priceless!

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - oldroverboy.

Just had a real laugh, took a friend along to collect his sanderos basic white 1.2 petrol for the advertised price and they wanted to sell him GAP protection and naturally he declined..

He sold his previous corsa to we buythe car thing and got £800 more than the dacia people were offering.

So, here we go, test drove a stepway 1.5 diesel and actually not a bad drive for the 5 miles i was allowed... Then i fell about laughing when the cruze was valued at £2300, but what would i take to do the deal today.

Salemen (two of them) insisted there was no profit in th car being sold so that was how they made a profit. no thanks!!!!

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - daveyK_UK

On the most basic dacia sandero model, the sales staff get a massive £12 bonus per car.

I doubt the delaer can be making much more than £100 per car for the basic versions.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - groaver

Then i fell about laughing when the cruze was valued at £2300, but what would i take to do the deal today.

Will you still be laughing when another dealer offers £2450? ;)

Dealers really don't want p/xs these days unless entirely on their terms.

Edited by groaver on 19/06/2014 at 19:31

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - Avant

And, sadly for you, ORB, they particularly won't be keen on a Chevrolet as a PX. I'm sure it's been a good car for you, and that GM have guaranteed parts availability, but the average Mr Punter doesn't know that and it'll be hard to shift. The dealer will 'trade it out' and get a rock-bottom price himself.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - doctorchris

My experience of trade-in valuations against Dacia cars was quite positive.

Both trade-ins were last year but we were offered £900 for a 10 year old Corsa which was definitely entering its twilight years. For my Panda Cross I was offered £6300 for a car that I'd paid £9500 for nearly 5 years previously. I suppose both cars were in demand on the used market.

I'm sure the Sandero and the Logan MCV that I'm waiting for won't make spectacular trade-ins in the future but the plan with both is to keep until they fall apart.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - oldroverboy.

Then i fell about laughing when the cruze was valued at £2300, but what would i take to do the deal today.

Will you still be laughing when another dealer offers £2450? ;)

Dealers really don't want p/xs these days unless entirely on their terms.

Webuyanycar offered £3200.. could always take that...

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - groaver

! Did you take it to them to knock the price down due to "defects" not mentioned?

If so, that seems ok.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - oldroverboy.

! Did you take it to them to knock the price down due to "defects" not mentioned?

If so, that seems ok.

Went this afternoon noted some minor scuffs on rear bumper but said ok and will give me 3200 in the next 7 days if i accept

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - groaver

Good man! I smell a car purchase coming on... :)

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - the_panders
It seems Dacia are happy to let the rust issue go on. Since they released a statement on the 16th June admitting to an issue there has been no progress at all. There are more areas of rust being discovered all the time so I have put together a page highlighting some of the issues and locations at rustyduster.co.uk there is obviously the ongoing thread on the forum daciaforum.co.uk
Anyone hoping that these car were going to last years nay have to think again.
Rust is even starting to affect the other models, Sanderos and Laureate. Even at the low prices they sell them for you don't expect rust that soon into ownership
Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - madf
It seems Dacia are happy to let the rust issue go on. Since they released a statement on the 16th June admitting to an issue there has been no progress at all. There are more areas of rust being discovered all the time so I have put together a page highlighting some of the issues and locations at rustyduster.co.uk there is obviously the ongoing thread on the forum daciaforum.co.uk Anyone hoping that these car were going to last years nay have to think again. Rust is even starting to affect the other models, Sanderos and Laureate. Even at the low prices they sell them for you don't expect rust that soon into ownership

I personally would not expect high quality from Renault and certainly not from new products/new factories run by Renault. They cannot even get French built Renaults right. in terms of assembly quality...

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - doctorchris

There's no doubt that the Indian-built Dusters have a serious corrosion problem. I know because I had one of the first to come into the country. Writing that car off and getting a good insurance settlement has saved me a lot of problems, dealing with Dacia and getting repairs carried out. Obviously I don't know what the Dusters leaving the factory are like but there are new cars in the showrooms with corrosion already.

The best advice must be not to buy a new or used Duster (unless at an incredible discount) at present.

Romanian-built Dacias seem on the whole to be well-built and problem-free. My wife has a Sandero which is 13 months old and has covered 12,000 miles. It has been fault-free and I can find no corrosion. I have a much newer Logan MCV. I'm delighted with it and again there is no corrosion. Both the Sandero and the Logan MCV are very well put together. They are mechanically simple and have durable interiors and a lack of complex electronics. At the price they sell at I believe they are excellent low-cost cars, especially if you keep them until they are worn out.

Returning to the Duster, it is no longer a secret that they are rusty from new. It surprises me that the champions of the consumer out there, think Watchdog, car mags etc. have shown no interest. Good luck to Panders in his mission to inform the general public of the problems with this car.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - retgwte

Car mags etc rely on Renault advertising budget, so there are reasons they will keep quiet.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - doctorchris

Car mags etc rely on Renault advertising budget, so there are reasons they will keep quiet.

Of course, you are right about that. One reason I don't buy them any more. Also I don't buy because all their car reviews are written by excitable 12 year olds, but that's another area for discussion.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - Andrew-T

Car mags etc rely on Renault advertising budget, so there are reasons they will keep quiet.

I don't think there is anything special about Renault's budget. I doubt that the motoring press will ever slate any new model, for obvious reasons, unless it is truly horrendous. Corrosion and other inherent faults won't be apparent at launch, and can easily be ignored for a while afterwards, except for irate letters to the Problems column.

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - daveyK_UK

The rust issue was apparent in India long before they started shipping them to the UK.

Renaults lack of action and lip service to the whole affair reminds me of their denial of the junk they produced from 2001- 2009.

Are there any rust issues with the latest Nissan Micra's built in the same Indian factory?

I know the Micra is badly put together with shoddy fit and finish, but my friend the senior tech at Nissan hasn't had any Micra's back with rust.

The Micra and duster must go through the same paint shop, will it simply be a case of poor paint used on the Renault/Dacia dusters compared to the Nissan products built at the factory?

Or is the Micra a ticking rust timebomb?

Dacia Duster - Rusting Dacia Dusters\ - the_panders
I think one of the main reasons the micro doesn't suffer with rust in the same way the duster are is they are built with Galvanized steel to start with.
After yesterday's latest announcement from Dacia about how they are going to inspect all those affected by the end of the year is clearly just another delaying tactic. They haven't managed to do anything in the last 5 weeks apart from consume more of the warranty period. They still haven't indicated how the repairs are going to achieved or how they wil guarantee the core of the vehicles won't be affected.