Peugeot 207 - New car advice - Cretin14

Hey all! Just joined up to hopefully get some sound advice on buying myself a new car. Im looking for a diesel hatchback which is very economical, not snail slow and hopefully reliable. Ive whittled it down to 3 but each seem to have their own drawbacks.

Vauxhall Corsa (D model) 1.3cdti. - Look good but heard they quite prone to turbo failiure

Clio 1.5Dci (86) - again looks good but ive heard that the fuel pump can go and leak metal shards into the fuel system totally wrecking it.

Peugeot 207 1.6Hdi (90) - Once more i like the look but have heard bad things about reliability, despite my 206 being fine for me.

For those wondering, my budget is 3500-4000 max and im looking at doing about 12k a year mileage. Any advice on any of these cars would be really appreciated.

Cheers,

Mat

Peugeot 207 - New car advice - jamie745

I found myself in a Peugeot dealership recently, stood beside a Peugeot 208 and it forced me to stop talking and step back, because it is very nice. You'll always hear bad things about Peugeot reliability, people will say that about a Peugeot before it's even come out but people keep buying them so they must get something right.

All of those three cars are pretty expensive for what they are. I could get a decent spec, reasonable mileage BMW 325 for that money, so spending it on a Vauxhall diesel is a hard sell. You might be better off looking at some petrol powered cars and the obvious choice is a Ford Focus. For that money you could get a very nice one, perhaps Ghia spec, I drive a 3.0litre Jaguar and even I find the 1.6 Focus lively with mid-high 30s to the gallon.

Peugeot 207 - New car advice - Cretin14

Thanks for the advice jamie. The main problem which stops me getting a petrol is the efficiency. I get 38ish mpg at the moment (206 1.1) but the diesels ive listed have advertised specs of 60-65mpg+ and obtain 50-55 in reality. Thats a potential saving of a third or more!

Peugeot 207 - New car advice - Collos25

When you take away the difference in price of the fuel and various cars petrol or diesel and your limited mileage I would look for a petrol.

Peugeot 207 - New car advice - artill

I too would recomend a petrol. Try something like a 1.3 Yaris. You should get near to 45mpg from something like this. I feel your poor mpg from the 206 is due to the engine design being old, and too small for the car, so it needs to be worked too hard.

Even so, assuming 55mpg in a diesel, your fuel costs would come it at about £40 a month less than the 206, but only £17 less than a 45mpg petrol such as a yaris.

This saving can be lost very easily through repair costs. If money is tight, stick to a Japanese petrol car, its much less likely to let you down.

Peugeot 207 - New car advice - Cretin14

Damn- im now questioning whether i should have my heart so set on a diesel. I usually do a 37mile round trip to work 5 days a week, plus another 75 or so on the weekends.

Is a 'reliable' petrol a lot more reliable than a diesel equivalent ?

In reality money will be tight because im condoning the purchase through being able to save on fuel and tax costs.

Thanks guys, keep the opinions coming!

Peugeot 207 - New car advice - skidpan

If your existing car is reliable and does its job and your only reason for changing is to save money forget it. You will never recoup the money spent changing in fuel and tax savings.

However, if you really want to change your car and get one that costs less to run and tax think very carefully. A car of the age you are looking at is unlikely to be 100% reliable and a big bill will soon cancel any savings.

Peugeot 207 - New car advice - Andrew-T

Peugeot 207 1.6Hdi (90) - Once more i like the look but have heard bad things about reliability, despite my 206 being fine for me.

For those wondering, my budget is 3500-4000 max and im looking at doing about 12k a year mileage. Any advice on any of these cars would be really appreciated.

I have owned a 207 SW 1.6 HDi since end-2008, with no problems - my User Review is on this site. Over that time and 35K miles the actual Mpg has been 61, very slightly less than indicated. And that 207 model of that age has no particle filter.

Edited by Andrew-T on 11/03/2014 at 14:18

Peugeot 207 - New car advice - jamie745

Is a 'reliable' petrol a lot more reliable than a diesel equivalent ?

In reality money will be tight because im condoning the purchase through being able to save on fuel and tax costs.

You'll be doing nearer 14,000 miles a year with that sort of commuting. Buying a diesel for it isn't totally stupid, it's coffin dodgers who buy them for their 3 mile weekly trip to Tesco who are complete fools.

Compared to your current car you'll be saving maybe £500 a year in fuel, sounds great but you'll still need to own the car for 8 years to make back your outlay on the car so if you're buying it purely to save money then I'd advise against it.

If you're buying it because you want something bigger, better, nicer, faster, more comfortable that's fine, but spending £4,000 you could do without spending in order to save money is folly.

As for the tax, I doubt your car is more than £150-£200 a year? Even if you get something that's £30 to tax, so what? All you need is one cracked brake shoe and you've wiped out the years saving.

For half of your budget you could get a very decent Focus or similar.

Peugeot 207 - New car advice - Andrew-T

< If you're buying it because you want something bigger, better, nicer, faster, more comfortable that's fine, but spending £4,000 you could do without spending in order to save money is folly.

As for the tax, I doubt your car is more than £150-£200 a year? Even if you get something that's £30 to tax, so what? All you need is one cracked brake shoe and you've wiped out the years saving.

For half of your budget you could get a very decent Focus or similar. >

All very true, Jamie, but any car you buy can turn out a lemon, so you need to buy with care and take any rough with any smooth. You never save money by changing your car - the economical way is to keep a reliable car as long as possible, rather than putting your hard-earned into a trader's pocket. Unless it's burning a hole in yours, of course.

Peugeot 207 - New car advice - skidpan

< If you're buying it because you want something bigger, better, nicer, faster, more comfortable that's fine, but spending £4,000 you could do without spending in order to save money is folly.

As for the tax, I doubt your car is more than £150-£200 a year? Even if you get something that's £30 to tax, so what? All you need is one cracked brake shoe and you've wiped out the years saving.

For half of your budget you could get a very decent Focus or similar. >

All very true, Jamie, but any car you buy can turn out a lemon, so you need to buy with care and take any rough with any smooth. You never save money by changing your car - the economical way is to keep a reliable car as long as possible, rather than putting your hard-earned into a trader's pocket. Unless it's burning a hole in yours, of course.

How strange, I said exactly that at 11.13 yesterday. Just shows that generally people do not read previos posts.

Peugeot 207 - New car advice - alan1302

How strange, I said exactly that at 11.13 yesterday. Just shows that generally people do not read previos posts.

So the poster is allowed to reply to Jamies post that all cars can be a lemon but now allowed to write the rest of his post and expand on what he is saying because it agrees with what you said?

 

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