I would seriously be concerned if it was a genuine garage that was trying to wind back the pistons to fit the pads ! If they thought they wound back they shouldnt be anywhere near a car let alone working on one !

I see plenty of cars seriously damaged by cloned and copy diagnostic tools and have seen a number of blown dashboards as well where cheap tools are used !

Brake fluid should be changed every two years and proper diagnostic tools have a bleed mode function to allow the system to be bled properly & efficently , very quickly by the ABS pump module running.

Probably not.Only if a major component were to be replaced,then the system would need to be bled diagnostically.But tbh,this applies to most modern cars now.It would seem that most manufacturers use the philosophy that if it a tried and tested system works ok,then change it.

Isn't that the truth, if its not broke they can't fix it quick enough.

Electric parking brake has to be the silliest and most uncalled for toy of the last 7 or so years, i suspect it will prove to be one of the top three reasons for scrapping of cars so fitted under 10 years old.

I notice new lorries are starting to sprout this rubbish...one poster on a lorry forum mentioned that a new Renault artic he drove switches off the lights, puts it in neutral (auto), and yes applies the electric parking brake, all when he switches off the ignition...and he thought this was progress and a good thing.

Anyone got any ideas on this is the garage trying to pull a fast one saying the calipers are faulty when they are not

Why do people voluntarily buy into this rubbish...this is not a go at you personally scenic 3, but a general quick rant at the whole EPB lunacy.

Even fitting a new set of pads appears to turning into a major headache unless you've got umpteen thousand pounds worth of the right diagnostic tools before you even start....though scenic 3 seems to have jerry wired a bodge that worked, and double well done mate the main dealer will be having a fit at the lost revenue, good.

A handy chap could have fitted 10 sets of normal brake pads in the faff time this model alone seems to be making for all when the things wear.

Imagine the nightmare should the system actually fail, is it going to be the blue flamed hacksaw to remove the seized in failure, then fit new parking brake calipers plus associated hubs discs wiring and bracketry, plus a new ECU no doubt.

Just WHY?

Well just did my Scenic 3 2011’s rear brake pads. Thanks to a number of very nasty words I uttered and the calming effect of silly youtube clips I have it done. Actually its not that difficult really, if you know what to do that is.

Firstly decompressing the Cylinder was a pain, I almost broke a nail, however, after being silly enough I realised the 12V motor is not going to just push back like a normal cable operated calliper.

Meantime, in my clever state I decided to pull the EPB up without pads in the Rear Left side, resulting in the system going into a panic a screaming blue death at me. I was not impressed, duly because there were now errors on screen I did not like.

Parking Brake Fault

STOP Brake System Fault

A 12V Battery with decent pins did the trick. Unwounded in a jiffy and easily pushed back the cylinder. Polarity Switching Rules!

Still have errors though.

Ok so brake pads were changed and fastened. Pulling the EPB up and releasing was working, manually, Auto was not working anymore. $*&*$&@!

Spongy brakes also, but that’s normal after I wasted about 600litres of Brake Fluid.

So obvious.

Right, so off I went, purchased some good Bosch Fluid, and filled her up (messed a lot) started a bleeding process with a minion behind the wheel pumping like a mad women!

Process completed and air gone, entire system flushed with new lube and all happy. Started her up and off I went. First stop, Brake system Fault gone, obviously due to the filled reservoir, which caused the error in the first place. Then Second stop, pulled the EPB, pulled away and released automatically, there the Parking Brake Fault also disappeared.

As easy as pie, although I spent a good 4 hours swearing like a sailor. Next time and obviously when I do the Clio’s brakes it will be quicker.

I noticed on various forums people complain about the Errors even a day after the brakes were changed. I am pretty sure it’s a simple filler-up problem, not sure why they don’t just have an error message indicating just that. STOP Brake System Fault will make anyone have a hissy.

Anyway, just my part on that.