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Can anyone (DVD?) tell me if police vehicles are modified (chipped) and in particular their diesel vehicles?
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Officer friend says that the South Yorks T5s, V70s and the Firearms Omegas are chipped - he said the V70 up to nearly 400 brake, though I'm not sure about the veracity of this figure. There's also a 406 diesel response car which seems to be substantially (and I mean substantially) quicker off the mark than one I drive from time to time (and I use the 110bhp) As regards the 306s and 307s that the panda boys use, I'm not sure that they are chipped. I thought that the pandas were for ordinary police to use, and that you only let the class one chaps/chapettes on the fast stuff. Friend also said there was a pot of these chips lying about, and that every time a policeman bought a T5 (year or two back) one of these chips would find it's way into the motor.
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orson,
Thanks for the info. The reason I was asking was because I was considering tuning my TD to eliminate the few (annoying) flat spots (am not interested in +mph or -0-60) and to improve the torque availability. I know that there has been much discussion on the board as the benefits and dangers so I thought that if the police did it to their vehicles then the dangers might be less than dealers like to make out (for obvious reasons).
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I don't know! I guess the police use it for faster accel and higher mph to catch the crims who have nicked an ordinary V70! Let me know what you discover, as I have a Rover 420TDSI which might benefit from a tweak, as it is horrifically slow from 0-15, which can be annoying at a roundabout. I have no complaints about overall speed, or acceleration once the turbo joins the fray.
O
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The service manager at my local Volvo dealership was telling me about some V70 T5s they had recently supplied to the police. I asked him whether they were chipped and he denied it. He said it would invalidate the Volvo warranty.
VD5D
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Well, he would say that, wouldn't he! They are definitely chipped. I would imagine (though I don't know) that Volvo (and any other supplier to the police) has a specific deal whereby they know about the chip and cover it apart from that. I guess that they have uprated brakes etc as well. Your volvo chap would certainly be cross if joe public (no offence intended) were to chip his own motor privately. It would also cause insurance probs (seeing the "help-accident" thread) if you tried to chip privately and didn't tell anyone.
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CM
I have been told that the diesels at my old Force are not chipped or tweaked. However I am not on as intimate terms with the black hand gang as I was when I served. Sorry I cannot be more specific.
Midlifecrises you reading????
DVD
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I can't comment about Volvos,but i have bought a lot of ex plod cars in my time and have had to replace various parts on them including ECUs on Senators,Omegas and Vectra SRis and they were always the same as the non-plod car,and when fitted made no difference to the performance.
Often a plod car will feel quicker/really is quicker than the non plod version because from day 1 it has been driven a 'little' harder than a non plod version,and also the non plod version will be heavier than the plod version(once all the extra equipment is removed).I think 'chipped'plod cars is a bit of an urban myth.
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DVD,
I'll ask someone who used to be responsible for purchasing the vehicles for his mob.
I do know that some mods were introduced, eg 2.0 ltr Cavaliers with SRI brakes. Plus there used to be some fairly extensive mods on Met Rovers again on brakes and wheels.
get back to you on this.
FiF
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DVD,
further to the above, you're not going to like this but........
main modifications were
different wiring loom for all the extra kit, lights radios etc
and................
heavy duty seats. ahem.
I'll just head of to the canteen for an all day fry up with jam doughnut for afters. ;-)
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>>Well, he would say that, wouldn't he! They are definitely chipped.
So you have an insight into the West Mercia Polices' policy on the chipping of vehicles - interesting!
VD5D.
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You cant chip a T5 to 400bhp. 300bhp is possible, but i very much doubt a police force would do this since it would significantly effect the life of the engine. I very muhc doubt they are chipped. More than 300bhp on stadard bottom ends is not adviseable with these engines anyway since the rods are none too strong.
But i have noticed police t5 with bigger brakes. A few i have seen looked lowered, but this may be due to all the kit they carry. the office i spoke to at the time of my crash said he thought all the t5's he had driven were standard apart from the brakes, and it wasnt any faster than my mum's 854 series (225bhp) T5 when he pinned it. But that was in gateshead.
Ben
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