fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - rockerr

Hello new to the forum so bear with me lol Recently bought a fiesta 1.4 tdci mk6 08 plate 43000 miles and its driving me mad When driving along the car can randomly loses all power for a second or two and then jump back into life. It seems to only happen when warm. Some times if caught with the clutch will cut out all together.

Had it to two garages hu have scanned for codes but found nothing and says there seems to be no fault, got advised to change the fuel filter and blank of the egr valve but the fault persists. Also tryed a additive for water in fuel but still no better been told to try an injector cleaner so that's the next step.

Hope u can help thanks

PS it also seems to smoke quite a bit on start up and take a good few seconds of cranking not sure if this is just a diesel thing as its the first diesel I've owned and last at this rate lol and I never see the glow plug light come on not sure if this is normal

fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - dieselnut

" seems to smoke quite a bit on start up and take a good few seconds of cranking, I never see the glow plug light come "

Could be that your coolant temperature sensor is faulty, telling the ECU your engine is hot so not activating the glow plugs. You really need to take it to a diagnostics expert or diesel specialist who can read all the sensor readings rather than a garage that is just looking for a fault code.

They might be able to put their finger on the cutting out problem too which sounds intermittent so may be hard to track down.

fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - rockerr

Ive got obd2 scanner which gives live data. On start up the collant temp is reading the same as the outside temprature so dont think this is the problem. Coild a map sensor cause the engine to cut out? Thanks

fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - dieselnut

Faulty MAP sensor shouldn't cause that. Check the EGR isn't sticking open, also check the fuel rail pressure with your scanner when it cuts out.

Regarding the starting, check you have voltage to the glow plugs ( some don't gat the full 12v, need to check with Haynes or similar ) immediately after switching ignition on. Check that each individule glow plug has a low resistance to earth ( 1 or 2 ohms ).

fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - rockerr
Hello suspect fault now is a faulty fuel rail sensor. Wat should the graph look like? Would be able to find an example on google? Could the fps cause the engine to cut out while driving along? Thanks for the reply
fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - hardway

Code readers in the hands of the general public is just a road to expensve self diagnosed repair bills!

And,so you don't feel singled out the same applies to a lot of mechanics.

But if your live data can give graph form then start with a graph readout of fuel rail pressure and run it until fault and check for glitches in the readout.

fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - rockerr

It saves paying £25+ for some one to read and clear the fault codes. And the main reason was for the egr as its blanked off.

If i get a graph of the fuel pressure what sort of glitches am i looking for? Big jumps in pressure? Fluctuating pressure?

Do u thnk a faulty fuel pressure sensor could cause the car to cut out and not leave any fault codes?

Thanks for the reply

Edited by rockerr on 15/01/2014 at 14:27

fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - hardway

Your looking for a smooth trace rising with RPM,

You do not want to see dips/bumps or big fluctuations.and a faulty FPS will show up in live data read.

Of course if you do see fluctuations then it's on to testing why.

Which could be a number of things.

Any diesel that cuts dead my first suspect is the crank angle sensor which will never show up as a code on an ebay reader

,the ecu just sees it as you've turned the key off!

fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - rockerr

Booked in to ford now anyway so fingers crossed.

If there is a electrical fault will ford find it for definate?

Just worryed ill be paying £100 and be no closer to fixing it

fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - hardway

Depends on how good the tech is.

£100 is my start price for this,

and I'll throw every test I have until the fault cause is narrowed down.

problems happen when I hit a point where cash has to be spent before testing can continue.

Say a faulty injector,no gntee that'll fix the fault but without fitting one I can not continue with testing.

This is where it can get complicated.

A good tech will be able to narrow the area of the fault only so far,

if your unlucky that is.

fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - Maxthedoggy

Your right buddy, similar problem to my newly purchased 08 1.4 TDCI, local garage couldn't read the code so took the car to my local Ford dealer, cost me nigh on £250 and still no answers. I took the car there to get quick answers because they have the proper kit right ? how wrong was I. As is the way loads of people are now telling me (after I've bought the thing!) that the 1.4 TDCI isn't a very good engine and they have lots of history with issues like this, (you'll be luckey to see 100000 miles out of it, was one comment) one guy told me he even scrapped his car due to mounting 'Tech' bills!!. How can a so called 'Tech' (as they call themselves these days) justify charging so much money and getting no where??? even you yourself say you start at £100??. It's very frustrating when there is all the modern equipment around, plug and play etc and you guys are still none the wiser than some old boy in a back street garage!....very very costly to jo public and very profitable to Ford dealer everywhere., I guess at the end of the day you can't beat a good old 'mechanic'.

fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - MrEckerslikefromRamsbottom

Your right buddy, similar problem to my newly purchased 08 1.4 TDCI, local garage couldn't read the code so took the car to my local Ford dealer, cost me nigh on £250 and still no answers. I took the car there to get quick answers because they have the proper kit right ? how wrong was I. As is the way loads of people are now telling me (after I've bought the thing!) that the 1.4 TDCI isn't a very good engine and they have lots of history with issues like this, (you'll be luckey to see 100000 miles out of it, was one comment) one guy told me he even scrapped his car due to mounting 'Tech' bills!!. How can a so called 'Tech' (as they call themselves these days) justify charging so much money and getting no where??? even you yourself say you start at £100??. It's very frustrating when there is all the modern equipment around, plug and play etc and you guys are still none the wiser than some old boy in a back street garage!....very very costly to jo public and very profitable to Ford dealer everywhere., I guess at the end of the day you can't beat a good old 'mechanic'.

Please let me throw this in as a reply! :

This thread is from January 2014, and since my reply at that time, my own 1.4TDCi has suffered this problem. It started with a noisy injector. The injectors first had new seats and seals after its second MOT (2011) when the 'foot to the floor' emission test blew out a seal, and late in 2014 the injectors were noisy again. I took it to a 'recommended' local garage. It came back still noisy as before, and this time losing power intermittently, but only until it fully warmed up. There was simply no point in doing diagnostic checks.. It needed stripping down again to find out what the chap had done - or not done! I took the car to the local diesel specialist this time. They spent all day on it, replaced seats and seals and said they had to re-cut one seat because 'it had a screwdriver cut in it'. They say they replaced the leak-off pipes as well. It's run well ever since and it's now done 198,000 miles.

My conclusion is that this engine does suffer from failed injector seats, seals and leaking pipes. Forget diagnostics - just let a proper diesel specialist strip it down and sort it!

fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - MrEckerslikefromRamsbottom

You won't see the glowplug icon light up on this engine unless the temperature is below freezing!

As for the actual fault of losing power for a second then coming back.. well, that sounds like a fuel problem. A faulty EGR valve should generate a fault code. If you've got at the EGR valve at the back of the cylinder head, then you've obviously had the air box off and had a look at the fuel lines beneath the air box, so my thoughts on a squashed or kinked fuel pipe are not valid. And you will have inspected the wiring to the injectors at the same time. Did you unplug and re-plug the injector wiring connector, just in case there's a dirty connection there?

It's always (in my opinion, that is) worth having your own fault code reader (about 40 quid from a car-parts shop) which you could leave plugged in and have a friend hold and read to see if anything shows up when the fault comes on.

fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - Collos25

The only problem with a code reader is deciphering the codes it will throw any amount of fault codes up that are not actually relevant to the fault.A faulty EGR could bring seven different codes up if you replaced all the relevant parts it will cost you a fortune.

fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - rockerr
Yes had the air filter off and inspected all fuel pipes and such. Have not removed injector multiplugs and checked the connections but would this cause an intermittent fault? Thanks ill have a look whe i get some time
fiesta 08 mk6 1.4 tdci - 1.4 tdci power loss intermintent - fìesta 1.4tdci dom

I have the exact same problem but have diagnosis they said maf sensor but it wasnt have you established what caused the problem as i need my car asap