Passat vs Octavia - Dingle232
I have a choice between a 2011 Passat 2.0 TDi SE with 20k miles or a 62 plate Octavia TDi VRs. I actually like both equally so just wonder if anyone had a view on the better car or option. Octavia would cost more but is newer and in warranty longer.

I think servicing costs are broadly similar.

Any opinions on either or the better buy?

Thanks and Merry Christmas!
Passat vs Octavia - gordonbennet

Skoda has proper parking brake, Passat an electric thing, that alone rules out the VW for me.

Passat vs Octavia - Avant

I'd go for the Octavia - but then I would, wouldn't I, being on my third.

It's almost as roomy as the Passat and although it may cost more than an 11-plate Passat, it would cost quite a bit less than an 62-plate Passat.

Servicing costs should be similar: Skoda dealers are more likely to be family-owned than VW dealers, giving you a better customer experience. And you've rightly answered your own question about the longer period in warranty - 18 months or so, well worth having.

(Edit - I'd forgotten about the handbrake for a moment - GB is absolutely right. Electronic parking brakes are inconvenient, although some people get used to them, and can fail expensively.)

Edited by Avant on 21/12/2013 at 11:07

Passat vs Octavia - oldroverboy.

Passat prettier but Octavia better, as

"always buy with the longest warranty"

ORB

Passat vs Octavia - 72 dudes

Well, I'd buck the trend and go for the Passat. The Skoda, although newer, is the previous generation model and is therefore Blandy Blanderson.

The Passat has a smarter interior, is more refined and just looks classier.

Drive them both and decide which suits you better.

Passat vs Octavia - Mike H

The Passat has a smarter interior, is more refined and just looks classier.

Drive them both and decide which suits you better.

Not driven either, but been a passenger in both. The road noise in the Octavia was horrendous, and would rule it out for me. The Passat was OK, but somehow the suspension on modern cars seems bizarrely disconnected - the Passat as well as the Insignia I had recently as a hire car suffered from a rather wooden feeling. As said - drive both, it's the only way!

Passat vs Octavia - Collos25

Surely that should be Passat v Superb or Octavia v Golf .

Passat vs Octavia - SteveLee

A very pretty car the Passat - but if they are anything like the previous model (or IS it a previous model being a 2011?) - run a mile unless you like lorry-spotting from the hard-shoulder. I'd rather have a Mondeo - better ride, better handing and more reliable.

Passat vs Octavia - skidpan

We looked at both the Octavia and Passat estates (and the Superb) when we last changed the wifes car. All 3 were great load carriers but all did have issues for us.

The main problem with the Passat was the dealers, they were just totally uninterested in selling us a car. Tried all the local ones and failed to get as far as a test drive, one offered us a test drive in a Scirocco saying it was stil a VW thus the same. Eventually found one at a supermarket and despite appering to be a perfect car for us it was only the 110PS and it was not quick enough, gave up.

The Octavia had 2 serious issues, the road noise was deafening (we tried 2, the 2nd was better but still loud) and the steering wheel adjust lever was positioned so that it caught the wifes knee every time she changed gear, not great features.

Tried the Superb, great space, much lower tyre noise but it still had the stupid steering wheel lever. It was also huge (bigger than a Mondeo) and we had already ruled that out since it was way longer than a normal parking space.

Gave up a bought a Kia Ceed SW. Just as much boot space (in a car that fits in parking spaces), plenty of performance from the 1.6 115 PS engine and great economy. Its also 100% reliable and the dealer appears to be a human.

Passat vs Octavia - Dingle232

I drove both and agree with most of the comments on each. The Octavia was a good drive but VERY noisy and ended up not having a lot of the features I wanted.

The Passat on the other hand was great in every respect, drove well, quiet and far more feature wise. The dealer, I have to say, was first class and I got a good deal with an extended warranty so that's the car I went for.

This will be the 4th VW I have owned and the Mrs is on her 7th. Maybe I've been lucky as, apart from the legendary ABS unit failure, I have never had a single problem with any of them.

Passat vs Octavia - thunderbird

The Octavia was on our wish list when we changed. On paper it was perfect but once we got up close things went down hill fast.

As other have noted it was incredibly noisy, the wife wanted to take it back immediately as it was hurting her ears, very difficult since we were on the motorway.

It had very little safety kit (we looked at SE spec). To bring it up to the standard of the competition added many hundreds of £'s and made it impossible to get a good deal since it mean't buying a factory order.

It had no spare wheel. No panic, simply add in the wheel as an option. But then you need to add in the raised boot floor for more extra money which robbed the boot space and made it smaller than our C-Max which had a spare as standard.

The rear seats were very low and would have made it very difficult for my mother to use the car. Because they were low you needed to sit with your legs outstreatched and since there was not that much leg room it was not comfortable.

The 2 local dealers we tried were both uninterested in selling us a car. In fairness it was during scrapage and at that time they could sell all the cars they needed to without negotiating but to make customers with money to spend feel unwelcome is not the way to run a bussiness. One was dealer of the year, god help the loosers.

Nice radio.

We didn't buy a VW either, their dealer was even worse.

Put new tyres on the C-Max instead.

Passat vs Octavia - Collos25

A good choice why anybody should think that VAG products are above the rest god only knows .

Passat vs Octavia - Dingle232

A good choice why anybody should think that VAG products are above the rest god only knows .

Yeah but as with everything you base your opinions on your personal experience. As I said earlier, ABS pump aside, the only 2 brands of vehicle I have never ever had issues with are Toyota and VW in over 30 years of motoring.

I guess that breeds a trust or 'brand loyalty' that's frail whatever you choose to buy. and only lasts as long as it takes to have a problem I don't laud VAG' as above the rest' in absolute terms; except that, for me. they and Toyota are the brands I've learned to trust the most and ergo am most likely to go back to. Others would say same about BMW, others. MB etc etc.

At the end of the day buying any used car is a gamble that you hope pays off.

Passat vs Octavia - john96

I agree. my mum had from new a Toyota yaris several years ago which had an intermittent fault that left her stranded on several occasions. she will never buy another Toyota due to that. she is on her second corsa now ( with no problems )

just goes to how individual circumstances affect buying choices

Passat vs Octavia - VEC786

What about the Vw jetta?

Passat vs Octavia - Collos25

Thats a golf with a boot is it not much more versatile than an golf but a poor seller.

Passat vs Octavia - Dingle232

But an excellant option price wise if you can live with a boot.

Passat vs Octavia - dodo

Just hit 55k troublefree miles in a new shape Passat 2.0 Tdi 140 bhp. Amazing economy for a car that has a good turn of speed (55-60 mpg) and great motorway cruiser at 80+. I drove one recently that had 120k on it when mine was being serviced and it was as tight as a drum. I had a test drive in a new Octavia recently (2.0 Tdi Elegance) and it was noiser, harder riding and seemed to sit very high off the ground. Came away most unimpressed and will probably run the Passat for another 12 months.

Passat vs Octavia - 2.0Tsi
You cannot get away from Collos25 giving anything VAG a bad time..........he is normally ok on this forum until someone mentions the VW word ;) it's a bit like Davey whatever his name is with Ford.......cannot see a wrong word even although he drives something different at the moment.

All I can say is drive each car and consider each car for its merits. We cannot decide what is suitable for you, or what value you put on age/mileage/history etc. In my opinion both cars use all the same parts virtually, except the Skoda has less sound deadening in key areas, however depends where and how you drive motorways/quiet or A-B roads/sporty I know what I like ;)

Passat vs Octavia - Collos25
You cannot get away from Collos25 giving anything VAG a bad time..........he is normally ok on this forum until someone mentions the VW word ;) it's a bit like Davey whatever his name is with Ford.......cannot see a wrong word even although he drives something different at the moment. All I can say is drive each car and consider each car for its merits. We cannot decide what is suitable for you, or what value you put on age/mileage/history etc. In my opinion both cars use all the same parts virtually, except the Skoda has less sound deadening in key areas, however depends where and how you drive motorways/quiet or A-B roads/sporty I know what I like ;)
You cannot get away from Collos25 giving anything VAG a bad time..........he is normally ok on this forum until someone mentions the VW word ;) it's a bit like Davey whatever his name is with Ford.......cannot see a wrong word even although he drives something different at the moment. All I can say is drive each car and consider each car for its merits. We cannot decide what is suitable for you, or what value you put on age/mileage/history etc. In my opinion both cars use all the same parts virtually, except the Skoda has less sound deadening in key areas, however depends where and how you drive motorways/quiet or A-B roads/sporty I know what I like ;)

I can only judge a make from experience having owned and still do own a VAG car although its never broken down the finish and paintwork are terrible compared to other similar priced cars on the market its a poor buy.

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Passat vs Octavia - RT

Over the years, I've noticed a few learned motoring journalists commenting on the fact that the UK perception of VW is different to other countries.

They all, including Germany, see VW as ordinary mainstream no better than any other mainstream brand - we Brits however seem to put VW as half a "rung" higher and revere the brand.

Passat vs Octavia - xtrailman

I dont see Vag cars as anything special, but they do offer something for everyone.

Certainly in the USA according to those on the Mazda forum i use Vag has a poor reputation for reliability, as do some other german car makers.

Passat vs Octavia - RT

I dont see Vag cars as anything special, but they do offer something for everyone.

Certainly in the USA according to those on the Mazda forum i use Vag has a poor reputation for reliability, as do some other german car makers.

But that's the opinion of Americans - who think that anything designed in Detroit is stylish, reliable and has good handling !

Passat vs Octavia - xtrailman

Not really they love the Mazda Cx-5, as doo the Australians.

Passat vs Octavia - RichT54

Not really they love the Mazda Cx-5, as doo the Australians.

Some Aussies weren't to happy when their CX-5s started getting the oil dilution problem:

news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-news/backlash-over-m...l

Passat vs Octavia - xtrailman

Yes that's very true, but read the posts now, all sorted.

Whirlpool is the best source.

Edited by xtrailman on 26/12/2013 at 15:32

Passat vs Octavia - RichT54

Yes that's very true, but read the posts now, all sorted.

That's good to hear. The CX-5 was on my short list this time last year but is was unclear at the time whether the problem was fixed or not, so I decided not to get one. However, I was impressed by the way it drove.

Passat vs Octavia - xtrailman

I held back from buying until the issue was fixed, the diesel came out in Australia a year before the UK, so they had most of the problems to solve.

Passat vs Octavia - akr
People in this country think VW are half a rung higher because that's the way they market themselves in this country. Consequently, people expect their cars to be that bit better, that bit more reliable. And when they find out they're not, they quite rightly kick off.
And unlike Toyota, for example, VW will not openly admit their cars have a common problem. If Toyota has a problem they recall them all, sort them out and the customer is happy. VW on the other hand will argue the toss, claim there's no common fault and generally try and get out of coughing anything up. Just take their reaction to the chain tensioner issue on the 2.0 TSi engines. There are many on the other forum I go on who've experienced catastrophic engine failure with this fault. VW contribute in the end but it's such a slog for people to get anything out of them. They'd get so much more respect if they just came out and admitted they'd fitted a crap part and offered to fit a new one free of charge. But no, that's too easy.
I personally find the run of the mill VW products dull and boring on top of the arrogance displayed by the manufacturer as outlined above. So I would definitely be going down the Mondeo route - a far better car than either car in the title.
Passat vs Octavia - Avant

A lot of British punters are swayed by high-quality fittings inside a car when they sit in it in the showroom: VW, Audi and now Skoda score highly here, SEAT less so and they haven't sold so well.

One thing to watch for is VAG's senseless decsion to give VWs only one year's free breakdown cover, whereas Audi, Skoda and SEAT give three. If buying a new VW be prepared to walk away if they don't throw the extra two years in (wait till it's almost settled in case they try to claw it back in a poorer overall deal). And make sure that this is in place if you buy a VW less than three years old.

Edited by Avant on 27/12/2013 at 17:33

Passat vs Octavia - daveyK_UK
I thought Seat sales figures where doing well this year?
Passat vs Octavia - Avant

True - I think the Leon is at last selling well for SEAT, as it looks good and the interior is fitted out better than before.

Passat vs Octavia - daveyK_UK

Its still essentially a cheaper, better looking (my opinion) Golf?

Passat vs Octavia - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}

I do not have any special reason to bad mouth cars from the VW group or their dealers.I've heard extreme rants about many of the big brands.

I think I have owned 8 VWs over the decades and now have a 2009 Octavia Elegance PD. Despite problems I still recommend VW for the feel good factor.The Octavia was comparable in size to a Passat saloon but superior in equipment and specification when I bought mine. I had owned a Passat Estate prior to the Octavia but had bought a Hyundai coupe between them with a 5 year warranty. The Hyundai had to go at 18 months old as it was self steering at times and the underside was rusty and the exhaust had dropped off.Sometimes a decent warranty is just not enough.

I agree some people find the road noise in the Octavia excessive. I'm OK with it. A big plus for the Octavia is the large rear hatch giving easy access to the large boot/ load area. The Passat does not have a hatch.

Passat vs Octavia - xtrailman

Cutting back on noise insulation saves weight and money, you get what you pay for.

Passat vs Octavia - Avant

I'm on my third Octavia and have never found road noise to be excessive compared with other cars. It's possible that the vRS and Elegance have more soundproofing than S and SE models; the type of tyres fitted can make a difference too.