any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - RRRichard

A few thoughts about windscreen washers:

Not many people realise that it is illegal to be driving a car without washer fluid in the reservoir. However, apart from staying legal, you really don't want yourself suddenly needing to be able to clear your screen and finding that your windscreen washer is empty.

Ideally motorists should top up their windscreen washers reservoir when doing their weekly checks but in reality few will actually bother to do this. Apart from topping up there is no easy way to check how much fluid is left as most cars do not have a warning light to let you know that the level is getting low. Although there is a maximum level marker on all the cars I know of there is no visible minimum level marker. Many motorists do not top up until the reservoir is already empty. This can cause problems with sediments from the bottom of the reservoir entering the pump or the spray feeder tubes or the nozzles and creating blockages.

Many motorists do not know what the capacity of their windscreen washer reservoir. How can they know when this information is not even in the handbook? The main internet search engines show evidence of motorists trying to find the capacity for their cars and generally only filling when empty. Car manufacturers use bespoke reservoirs which are carefully designed to fit into whatever available space has been left over. Capacity would seem to vary between 2.5 and over 5 litres, and is greater if the vehicle has headlight washers as well. Ready-to-use screen fluid is sold in 1 litre, 2.5 litre and 5 litre containers, but of course with concentrated fluid motorist can mix up whatever quantity they need.

So although the best advice is definitely to top up weekly many motorists would probably not do this and like me would probably prefer some sort of dashboard warning that the reservoir was low or needed to be topped up. This is not something that it would be easy to retro-fit because of the awkward location of the reservoir and the need to introduce a warning light circuit into the wiring loom, but it would not be that difficult during the manufacturing process. It would be interesting to know what it would cost for manufacturers fit low level warnings for the windscreen washer reservoirs and if motorists would be prepared to pay for this.

any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - RT

Many cars already get a low washer fluid warning light.

I top mine up every month with a mixture of water and three washer additives, never needs more than a litre - it's a 4 litre container.

any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - mss1tw

I'm 99% sure a 2002 Toledo I owned years ago had a washer fluid level. It had level checks for oil and coolant too. Some new models must have this feature still

(Shame it was an incurably leaky POS or I'd still have it...No it wasn't the pollen filter or the windscreen. Changed both before I sold it)

any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - veryoldbear

My old Saab 9-5 pings at me when my washer level is getting low ....

any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - oldroverboy.

All of my cars for the past 10 years have had "low level" warnings for windscreen washer fluid, but I check regularly, and certainly before every long journey, and also replace wipers at the start of winter.

any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - RichT54

I was reading an article in What Car today that describes how the different car models fare when they go in for their first MOT.

What becomes immediately obvious is the number of cars that fail their MOT due to simple, obvious things such as worn tyres and wipers, blown headlights and brake lights.

Apparently 28,000 failed simply because the owners had failed to top up the washer fluid!

any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - Collos25

I was reading an article in What Car today that describes how the different car models fare when they go in for their first MOT.

What becomes immediately obvious is the number of cars that fail their MOT due to simple, obvious things such as worn tyres and wipers, blown headlights and brake lights.

Apparently 28,000 failed simply because the owners had failed to top up the washer fluid!

"28000 cars failed the test because water did not come out of all the washer jets slightly different.

any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - madf

I was reading an article in What Car today that describes how the different car models fare when they go in for their first MOT.

What becomes immediately obvious is the number of cars that fail their MOT due to simple, obvious things such as worn tyres and wipers, blown headlights and brake lights.

Apparently 28,000 failed simply because the owners had failed to top up the washer fluid!

"28000 cars failed the test because water did not come out of all the washer jets slightly different.

I was reading an article in What Car today that describes how the different car models fare when they go in for their first MOT.

What becomes immediately obvious is the number of cars that fail their MOT due to simple, obvious things such as worn tyres and wipers, blown headlights and brake lights.

Apparently 28,000 failed simply because the owners had failed to top up the washer fluid!

"28000 cars failed the test because water did not come out of all the washer jets slightly different.

Lack of brains by owners..Hardly a surprise..

any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - Hamsafar

All of my cars apart from my first, a Y-reg Morris Ital have had this feature.
I presumed all had it now?
I don't refill until nearly empty as if you keep topping up, there is a risk of the water going stangenet and getting a bad smelll, legionella or a bacterial slime.

any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - Armitage Shanks {p}

I carry a 1 litre plastic milk container, in the boot, with the oil and spanners and spare bulbs etc, so if I get no result from trying to wash my screen I can top up and be legal.

Edited by Armitage Shanks {p} on 13/12/2013 at 18:40

any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - Collos25

The cars I have had since 2000 have had low level washer liquid warning.

any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - jc2

Please tell me what law says I must have fluid in the washer bottle;Washers(if fitted) must work.And a method of cleaning the windscreen is a legal reqirement on modern cars fitted with a windscreen.

any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - RT

MoT Tester's Manual section 8.2, reason for rejection number 3) The windscreen washers do not provide enough liquid to clear the windscreen in conjunction with the wiper(s).

www.ukmot.com/mot%20manual/index.asp?MOT_Section=D...2

any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - RichT54

It's also described in The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986

www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/3...e

Windscreen wipers and washers

34. (1) Subject to paragraphs (4) and (5), every vehicle fitted with a windscreen shall, unless the driver can obtain an adequate view to the front of the vehicle without looking through the windscreen, be fitted with one or more efficient automatic windscreen wipers capable of clearing the windscreen so that the driver has an adequate view of the road in front of both sides of the vehicle and to the front of the vehicle.

(2) Save as provided in paragraphs (3), (4) and (5), every wheeled vehicle required by paragraph (1) to be fitted with a wiper or wipers shall also be fitted with a windscreen washer capable of cleaning, in conjunction with the windscreen wiper, the area of the windscreen swept by the wiper of mud or similar deposit.

(3) The requirement specified in paragraph (2) does not apply in respect of—

(a) an agricultural motor vehicle (other than a vehicle first used on or after 1st June 1986 which is driven at more than 20 mph);

(b) a track-laying vehicle;

(c) a vehicle having a maximum speed not exceeding 20 mph; or

(d) a vehicle being used to provide a local service, as defined in the Transport Act 1985.

(4) Instead of complying with paragraphs (1) and (2), a vehicle may comply with Community Directive 78/318.

(5) Instead of complying with paragraph (1) an agricultural motor vehicle may comply with Community Directive 79/1073.

(6) Every wiper and washer fitted in accordance with this regulation shall at all times while a vehicle is being used on a road be maintained in efficient working order and be properly adjusted.

any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - jc2

MoT requirements only apply to cars over three years old and do not even apply to all of the UK.Certain areas are exempt-as are some cars.

any - windscreen washer fluid low level waring - RT

MoT requirements only apply to cars over three years old and do not even apply to all of the UK.Certain areas are exempt-as are some cars.

Construction & Use Regulations apply to all vehicles, just like all legislation on roadworthiness.

Exemptions from the MoT test doesn't give any exemption from C&U regulations or roadworthiness legislation.