Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - Trilogy

N.B. I have no connection with this car.

www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C371781

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - dan86

It reminds me of a 1980s volvo.

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - brum

Looks a bit like a rebadged Fiat 131, which I had for a few weeks once - terrible,terrible car.

As far as my memory can recall a Lancia car had an average life span of about 15 months, slightly better than a car with a raw unpainted steel body if such a thing was ever made...

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - RT

The Lancia Trevi - the saloon counterpart of the infamous Lanci Beta coupe and sharing it's platform.

Edited by RT on 11/10/2013 at 15:35

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - craig-pd130

Goodness me, I've no idea how that's survived. I can't see a Ziebart sticker in the window ...

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - 72 dudes

RT is correct, a saloon Beta, never sold in big numbers, so rare and curioso value, but not at £6k thanks.

Not that ugly at the time, surely? Reminiscent of a similar age BMW 5 series or a Merc 200 from the back end.

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - Trilogy

73 dudes, it was ugly at the time, as was the dashboard.

Fiat 131 Sport for sale. www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C442134

A better Lancia. www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C442289 A fine car. I had one about 20 years ago.

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - bathtub tom

Co-incidentally, there a Beta round the corner from me. Been for sale for months.

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - Trilogy

Co-incidentally, there a Beta round the corner from me. Been for sale for months.

People seem to value them unrealistically.

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - Bobbin Threadbare

Co-incidentally, there a Beta round the corner from me. Been for sale for months.

People seem to value them unrealistically.

Novelty value?

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - focussed

What's a Lancia? A Fiat only rustier! Oi!

Seriously, As someone else posted, the grille, front valance and headlamps look uncannily like a 1980's Volvo 240 - same designer?

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - Trilogy

Bobbin, the Beta was a fine car. My parents had a 2000 Sedan.

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - Avant

If I remember right, the Beta was also a saloon rather than a hatch. So I wonder - what was the point of the Trevi? It's even uglier inside than outside!

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - Trilogy

Avant, the hatch was the HPE. The sedan (as the saloon was called) resembled a hatch but wasn't one. Other versions - a coupe and spyder. Not sure if the Monte Carlo was based on the same floorpan.

Trevi might have been........

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - mike hannon

You can always depend on the word 'Lancia' in a thread title to provoke a lot of ill-informed comment from people who have never actually owned one.

Signed: a happy former Lancia owner - and there's lots of us - who was actually around at the time of the short-lived structural rust problem with the Beta saloon and can speak from experience rather than parroting what his friend's mate's brother's father-in-law once read in the Auto Express.

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - A3 A4

My Dad had a late model 1982 Beta 1.6 as a company car (his company did a deal with the suppling dealer) it was the first car that I drove after passing my test in a Mk2 Escort.

All I can recall of it was that after the Escort, the steering was really heavy, but did go like stink in a straight line. It was also very luxurious for its day with headrests and an FM stereo radio.....

Checked it on the DVLA, it didn't make its 6th birthday, written off one would assume.

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - RT

You can always depend on the word 'Lancia' in a thread title to provoke a lot of ill-informed comment from people who have never actually owned one.

Signed: a happy former Lancia owner - and there's lots of us - who was actually around at the time of the short-lived structural rust problem with the Beta saloon and can speak from experience rather than parroting what his friend's mate's brother's father-in-law once read in the Auto Express.

So it's a myth that Lancia UK spent a fortune buying back Beta's that were affected and then dropped the brand from the UK altogether - and it's a myth that the Fiat Group can't use Lancia in the UK because it's a poisoned brand, so they use Chrysler here but Lancia everywhere else ?

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - bathtub tom

>>So it's a myth that Lancia UK spent a fortune buying back Beta's

No they didn't, I understand they offered a pitiful trade-in price, as long as a new Lancia was purchased.

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - mike hannon

It wasn't a pitiful trade-in price, but there were a lot of unhappy Beta saloon owners and Lancia didn't do themselves any favours by trying, secretly, to scrap the ones they bought back - a fact picked up by some members of the press, of whom I was one.

That was in about 1980 IIRC and the brand was not withdrawn from the UK until, IIRC, about 1993, after the successful sale of many more Betas, Prismas and, of course, Deltas including the Integrale.

The end came after the marketing failure of the Dedra - some of us tried to warn Lancia that although it was a perfectly reasonable motor you couldn't sell a car called that in the UK.

But if ever the future of a brand in a particular country was sealed by ignorant gossip it was that of Lancia.

I wish I still had my HPE - I've seen several since I've lived in France but no-one will sell.

A couple of years ago I came across a low-mileage one-owner 1978 Beta saloon for sale near here and went to look at it. It was absolutely original and sound, and cleaner than the proverbial whistle. Sadly, it had only the 1300 engine and it was white, with horrible blue cloth seats. I still somehow wish I'd bought it though.

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - 767 TMG Where Are You Now

It wasn't a pitiful trade-in price, but there were a lot of unhappy Beta saloon owners and Lancia didn't do themselves any favours by trying, secretly, to scrap the ones they bought back - a fact picked up by some members of the press, of whom I was one.

That was in about 1980 IIRC and the brand was not withdrawn from the UK until, IIRC, about 1993, after the successful sale of many more Betas, Prismas and, of course, Deltas including the Integrale.

The end came after the marketing failure of the Dedra - some of us tried to warn Lancia that although it was a perfectly reasonable motor you couldn't sell a car called that in the UK.

But if ever the future of a brand in a particular country was sealed by ignorant gossip it was that of Lancia.

I wish I still had my HPE - I've seen several since I've lived in France but no-one will sell.

A couple of years ago I came across a low-mileage one-owner 1978 Beta saloon for sale near here and went to look at it. It was absolutely original and sound, and cleaner than the proverbial whistle. Sadly, it had only the 1300 engine and it was white, with horrible blue cloth seats. I still somehow wish I'd bought it though.

My Lancias have been great. I had a Beta HPE Volumex for about a year and it was a great drive, neither was it rusty, then the best driving experience I ever had was four years with a 1992 EVO1 Integrale. Nothing will ever come close.

Edited by 767 TMG Where Are You Now on 14/10/2013 at 19:44

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - Avant

I think the rust issue was long enough ago for Lancia not to be a tainted brand any more, and many of us given the choice would prefer to drive a Lancia rather than a Chrysler.

Just about every car that Chrysler has tried to sell in the UK under its own badge has flopped, and deservedly so. The 300C has its adherents, but that's the only one I can think of.

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - Trilogy

mike, I have to disagree on trade in price. My parents were offered a pitiful amount. BTW, it was white, with blue cloth seats. At least there was a choice of upholstery colour, unlike most of today's manufacturers offering black, dark black, light black etc

It was a 2000 sedan, a fine car that I'd still be happy to buy, if I could find one.

They went in for cars from now extinct companies including BL, Saab and Lancia. To all intents and purposes the latter is sadly extinct having been ruined by misguided people acroos the water.

Avant, I've seen more MG6 than Chrysler Lancias. Surely someone should have had the brains to know Chrysler Lancias wouldn't sell. The ad for the littlle on on TV tries to make out it is American. Doh! as one famous American would say!

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - Trilogy

A very nice genuine Lancia www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C442293

one for mike www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C396135

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - 72 dudes

OOh, I like the Fulvia.

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - alastairq

The end came after the marketing failure of the Dedra - some of us tried to warn Lancia that although it was a perfectly reasonable motor you couldn't sell a car called that in the UK.

The same thing happened to GM with the Corsa....they wanted to call it something else [or was it the nova?]...unitl it was pointed out that in Spanish it would be something really silly...

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - Trilogy

Oh Deidre!

Corsa, you can't get mugh rougher than that!

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - RT
The same thing happened to GM with the Corsa....they wanted to call it something else [or was it the nova?]...unitl it was pointed out that in Spanish it would be something really silly...

The Corsa-A, built in Spain was called the Nova just for the UK, ie Vauxhall - GM Europe then decreed that Opel and Vauxhall would use common names, so Nova became Corsa, Kadett became Astra, Cavalier became Vectra, Carlton became Omega.

"No va" allegedly means "no go" in Spanish.

Edited by RT on 13/10/2013 at 21:54

Anyone fancy a rare, ugly Lancia? - JOGON

No

my first car was a fiat. All the electrics went and it rusted.

It ended up rare. None survived.