Agree with Unthrottleds post above.

PSA used to make some decent cars, indeed there are still rust free 405 and Xantia Diesels out earning their crust, they might look a bit old fashioned now but they were decent enough in their day and have proved durable in the extreme and as comfy as your old slippers to ride our battered third world urban roadscapes.

Apart from Berlingo and the rest of the very decent van/combi range i wonder what the thinking was, Pugs offerings especially are as ugly as sin, who one earth authorised that wide gaping mouth grill or the revolutionary army personell carrier lookalike that is 3008/5008, dear Lord you couldn't pay me to own one.

PSA not the only ones to have ignored indeed spurned their core customers, Honda did exactly the same by beating Civic and Accord with the ugly stick, why? the shapes might appeal to few fickle younger buyers but those regular reliable every three year mature buyers vanished without trace, Jazz is about the nicest looking car they now make.

Peugeot 205 is one of the all time greats and Citroen have made a plethora of great cars. Sadly none in their current ranges stand out. Peugeots have become so ugly. Why would you buy one?

Inertia: you buy a Pug cos you have no imagination.

In 25 years you have has 20 Pugs, thats alot of car changing!

The phrase was 'owned or used' - which may include company cars, hire cars, etc.

Indeed, tho I can recall only one company car, a 309. It includes 205s, a 106 and a 206 owned by my daughters, and my wife's Dturbo. Three 306 hatchbacks and a cabrio, plus four 205 cabrios and several hatchbacks, a 206 and the current 207. Not many at once; but there are three Pugs outside as I speak, with a total age of 50 years.

Not many Pug dealers have benefited from this spending spree as I only buy used :-)

Edited by Andrew-T on 29/06/2013 at 16:14

I will say one thing for Peugeot/Citroen, the Berlingo/Parnter and the car versions (multispace/tepee) are cracking vehicles, and have proven to be more reliable than the fiat doblo, vauxhall combo, ford tourneo/transit, renault kangoo, etc.

One thing Peugeot and Citroen have felt the affects from is Dacia who are drastically undercutting them while using proven reliable french technology from Renault.

And yes I wrote reliable! Dacia generally only use the old tried and tested stuff.

They have adopted the 0.9l, 3 cilinder petrol which is relativly young, and they do use the same 1.5 diesel you find in most renaults, nissans and the A-class BUT it does have wider injectors and a different filter to allow it to take more of a beating from poor quality fuel with the effect being lower MPG figures on the official consumption tests.

Edited by daveyK_UK on 30/06/2013 at 22:59

There's nothing wrong with Renault quality at Dacia prices !!

Our appalling Peugeot 104 was, quite literally, nothing but TROUBLE.

Replaced by excellent Hyundai i10 two years ago. Hassle free motoring.

Good grief man it can't have done so bad, must have been 25 years old when replaced by the Hyundai...:-)

QUOTE:...""...Best thing would be for the French to nationaise it.""

And then sell it to Airbus Industries, who in turn sell it to BMW, who after a few years sell it to a management buyout who run it into the ground.

Having taken the name and the factories they were after, kerching.

GB PLC, the worlds laughing stock, both barrels constantly primed ready to shoot ones own foot off at the drop of a hat.

And so they should be - France has always been protective of it's home-made car industry whether good or bad.

Our appalling Peugeot 104 was, quite literally, nothing but TROUBLE.

Worst car we've ever mistakenly owned.

Peugeot UK & the dealers displayed dull indifference.

Replaced by excellent Hyundai i10 two years ago. Hassle free motoring.

Do you mean a 104? They ceased production about the time the 205 came out so c1984.

I owned one, a ZS on an S suffix, from 1982 until 86. When it went it was brilliant but prone to lunching it head gasket, an engine out job at £300 plus thirty years ago