England (actually Sunderland) beats Italy

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Sat 11 May 2013 18:37
England (actually Sunderland) beats Italy - Trilogy

Last year Nissan, Sunderland, produced more cars than the whole of Italy.

We do produce some of the world's most reliable cars, unlike the 1970s/80s. British workers have the skills, with the right product and management, to make the reliable and well built cars. :)

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Sat 11 May 2013 18:43
England (actually Sunderland) beats Italy - unthrottled

Last year Nissan, Sunderland, produced more cars than the whole of Italy.

We assembled more cars than the whole of Italy. but the number of supply-chain components designed and built in Britain remains small compared to some other countries. That's not to bash Sunderland's Nissan plant btw, but we need to keep a sense of perspective.

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Sat 11 May 2013 18:49
England (actually Sunderland) beats Italy - Trilogy

Last year Nissan, Sunderland, produced more cars than the whole of Italy.

We assembled more cars than the whole of Italy. but the number of supply-chain components designed and built in Britain remains small compared to some other countries. That's not to bash Sunderland's Nissan plant btw, but we need to keep a sense of perspective.

You don't half like to nitpick! You need to get out more. ;)

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Sat 11 May 2013 18:58
England (actually Sunderland) beats Italy - dadbif
Celebrate! The only UK manufacturer left is MORGAN, the rest are foreign owned, all the profits go abroad !

What a triumph (no pun intended) for the current bunch of clowns!
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Sat 11 May 2013 19:16
England (actually Sunderland) beats Italy - RT

Like the mining and other manufacturing industries, it was the unionisation of the '60/70s that destroyed the UK car industry - the successful plants we now have have been created from nothing by Japanese management.

Morgan is insignificant in the big picture - the only UK plant still operating under it's long-term owners is GM Ellesmere Port producing Opel Astras for export, and Vauxhalls, - and that get threatened with closure every time GM gets into trouble, which does seem to be quite frequently.

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Sat 11 May 2013 20:22
England (actually Sunderland) beats Italy - Trilogy

Noble.

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Sat 11 May 2013 23:47
England (actually Sunderland) beats Italy - balleballe

I'm glad to see something on the way up here in the UK.

Who would've thought that redundant coal miners and shipbuilders could excel at car assembly?

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Sun 12 May 2013 08:50
England (actually Sunderland) beats Italy - wrangler_rover

What's the definition of a car manufacturing plant and a car assembly plant?

Toyota at Burnaston takes in steel in strip form and presses out body panels, it also takes in engines and other components. The end product from the plant is fuly assembled cars, does that make it a car manufacturing plant or a car assembly plant?

For what it's worth, I am on my 3rd Avensis company car and completely satisfied with it, by choice, I would not drive a non Japanese or non Korean car. The cars are reliable, they come with a long warranty and the dealers see customer as somebody to be valued and not and endless supply of cash.

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Sun 12 May 2013 09:22
England (actually Sunderland) beats Italy - RT

There can be no absolute distinction between manufacture and assembly because of all the variables.

In Korea, Hyundai make the steel that's used for car manufacture there and build the ships that bring them to Europe. They also build VM Motori engines under licence for Chevrolet (Daewoo) despite no longer using them themselves.

Many manfacturers buy in transmissions from ZF, Aisin etc

Many engines are built by joint manufacturers, eg Ford/PSA + currently JLR and Volvo.

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Sun 12 May 2013 13:29
England (actually Sunderland) beats Italy - tony g
( Who would've thought that redundant coal miners and shipbuilders could excel at car assembly? )

Why not ? It just goes to prove that with good management and the right investment British workers can be the worlds best .

Thinking back to the industrial strife of the sixties and seventies ,wasn't it a case of lions led by donkeys .

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Sun 12 May 2013 13:42
England (actually Sunderland) beats Italy - bananastand

"Triumph Acclaim" didn't do well in Germany because its name translated as "Sieg Heil".

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Sun 12 May 2013 13:57
England (actually Sunderland) beats Italy - RT
( Who would've thought that redundant coal miners and shipbuilders could excel at car assembly? ) Why not ? It just goes to prove that with good management and the right investment British workers can be the worlds best . Thinking back to the industrial strife of the sixties and seventies ,wasn't it a case of lions led by donkeys .

The problem with the '60s and '70s was that union reps were effectively running companies because the management were powerless without their "approval" - thing is that union reps are good on workers' right but carp at management.

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Sun 12 May 2013 15:19
England (actually Sunderland) beats Italy - tony g
(The problem with the '60s and '70s was that union reps were effectively running companies because the management were powerless without their "approval" - thing is that union reps are good on workers' right but carp at management.)

Exactly, as I said poor management.that couldn't deal with the unions .

On the same subject ,I seem to to remember that during that late seventies early eighties , didn't the NCB introduce a bonus scheme that paid substantial bonus,s to miners and coal production increased dramatically .

I remember thinking that the Tory government were using the bonus scheme to stockpile coal , prior to provoking the miners strike to break union power in the UK. Am I wrong .
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Sun 12 May 2013 19:27
England (actually Sunderland) beats Italy - Ed V

I think it's more sustainable to send profits abroad to the owners, than to suffer the losses here in the UK, which is how life used to be.

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