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Dacia have had to anounce the further delay of some of its models as the demand outstrips supply.
The Renault dealer tells me the Logan may be postponed until next year as the factorys struggle to meet UK demand for the remainder of this year.
The existence of Dacia alongside Renault in the showrooms is also causing conflict as some customers are shunning Renault products and opting for Dacia, particulary the Duster.
With such success, I am suprised we have not had more manufacturers (particulary chinese manufacturers) trying to maximise the demand for thrifty motoring?
Edited by Avant on 18/07/2013 at 11:14
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Cheap purchase price isn't everything m8. There's residuals, dealer backup NCAP ratings etc to consider. Plus the hollow mocking laughter from your mates when they find out your running a 'NoDong' GTI or whatever. Having checked out the Duster I thought it was a bit ugly at the front and quite plain inside. When in the market for another SUV personally I would prefer a good used more mainstream make, Toyota / Nissan etc.
But each to their own.
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There's always a significant market for "budget" cars - and people do remember how Honda and Toyota got started in the UK - Dacia have positioned themselves well to fill the gap in the market left as Hyundai, Kia and Skoda all push up into the mainstream.
It is surprising though that budget car buyers would prefer a car built in an undeveloped part of Eastern Europe, Romania, and backed by a manufacturer with poor reputation for Q&R, Renault - rather than Chinese brands allied to mainstream European makers.
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Why build RHD when they can sell all they make in LHD?-less stock to hold,less complcation on the line.
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Why build RHD when they can sell all they make in LHD?-less stock to hold,less complcation on the line.
Yes - the UK always loses out when a model is in short supply, simply because of the RHD.
Hyundai is doing the same at the moment with 2013 Santa Fe - the Korean and US plants are at full capacity so they're limiting UK RHD deliveries to about one third of normal levels.
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I thought our Dacias were built in LHD India?
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India is RHD
Indeed, my error when writing.
Another splendid legacy of the Empire?
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The expected residuals from CAP are good for the Duster, ok for the Sandero.
The NCAP was a bit unfair as the basic Duster model does not have ESC, thus the car is unable to score more than 3 stars regardless of how it scores in a crash.
Again, the Duster has a OK image in Germany, France, Italy, Spain, etc.
In the UK brand does appear to be more important to customers, but it is a perosnal matter for how much you care about other peoples opinion and a strange sense of 'pride' in owning a vehicle which costs substancially more than it should do!
Looks are a personal matter, I think it looks fine for the price.
I would agree, a 2 year old Honda CRV would be a better choice, but a 2 year old Honda CRV would only have a year of warranty left and would still cost more than a brand new Duster.
Plus you can extend the warranty on a Duster for upto 7 years.
The view from the Autobild and another German forum is the duster is built on old proven Renault technology and the Romanian factory is not as 'undeveloped' as ignorance would allow one to percieve.
The engines are all modern and still in use in other Renault/Nissan and Mercedes A-class (1.5 diesel).
I dont know why I have felt the need to correct some of the misleading statements on the forum, I havent ordered a Dacia yet, although I am temped by the Logan MCV (estate) when it finally arrives.
What I do know is the experience of a collegue who has a Dacia Sandero, 1 month old.
It cost him £6600 for a mid spec 1.2 petrol (the old clio proven engine).
That is a 5 door as well which is fabulous value.
He paid out an extra £50 for a full size spare wheel.
So far he is achieving (from mainly town driving) 41mpg which is rather good from a brand new petrol engine.
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I thought all new cars in Europe got ESC - as part of a "gentlemans agreement" with EC Commissioners to avoid some legislation which I can't recall.
Perhaps Renault need to work on their PR if all the Q&R issues are just urban myths.
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If you are going to keep a Dacia for a long time there is no need to worry about depreciation.
As for NCAP tests, well, a few years ago no one thought about them
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There are a few RHD Dusters on ebay, all top spec with all the extras, it seems the its the Access model that is in short supply.
Its a shame they don't offer the Access model with a diesel engine, 2 or 4 wheel drive, the 1.6 looks both heavy on fuel and VED, especially the 4x4.
Would be quite tempted, quite like the thought of of cheap spartan no frills utiilty vehicle.
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The cheapest Dacia is about the closest we seem to be likely to get to a spiritual successor for Renault 4/Citroen2CV/Dyane.
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More bad news, the new Logan MCV ( estate) is proven so popular in mainland Europe, my local Renault dealer is not expecting a demonstrator until late August at the earliest.
If I ordered today, I could have one by the end of September (but cant confirm a date!).
But I want to see it in the flesh before I place my order.
Apparently, all the models are suffering from over-demand.
Especially the lower spec trims which have proven more popular than expected.
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I've seen a coupe of Logans on the road. They look pretty good. One was overtaking an Austin Allegro, sorry, I mean an Audi A1. They are so easily confused.
BTW, how do you tell the diference between one Audi and another? If it has been debadged, you can't.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one to think the A1 (particularly the 3-door) reminiscent of the Allegro!
I'm not sure BMW and Mercedes are any better than Audi in terms of models looking similar - but then there's nothing nedw under the sun, Austin and Morris in the 1930s had models from 10 hp to 20 hp with several sizes of body but essentially the same design.
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Do you blame him.
Your buying a 5 door 2008 clio with a different badge and better looking, mid spec for £6600 brand new.
Nothing compares to it for value.
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These cars seem to be doing quite badly in the TUV reliability reports:
www.anusedcar.com/index.php/tuv-model/dacia-logan
www.anusedcar.com/index.php/tuv-model/dacia-sandero
Surprisingly poor given all we've been led to believe regarding these cars' reliability.
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Do you blame him.
Well, i might be inclined to offer an alternative when recommending.
Yes they seem good value but looks and well established reliability (yet to be proven) are also usually factors in a person's decision.
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LOOKS ARE SUBJECTIVE.
The Dacias look average
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They tend to look like what they are. Cheap.
Some people will be more than happy with them and their looks.
I suppose you could call them honest cars.
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