Honda Jazz - Honda Jazz 2007 - to sc*** or attempt fix? - VengaPete

Apologies for long post but context is important to the question raised.

My daughter has a 2007 Jazz 1.4 DSi CVT with 82000 miles which she has had for 5 years and essentially got her real driving experience after passing her test.

It has a few war wound parking dings, a minor sc***e on passenger door, a ding on drivers front wing and the air con doesn't and hasn't since she had it( I suspect the condenser is holed as the front bumper is a slightly different colour so maybe had a minor prang before we had it).

As a car to learn to drive and get experience it has been excellent and I've done the yearly servicing including the CVT oil (ie: it doesn't have the notorious judder on take off)

Mechanically the engine and drivetrain have been very reliable.

On the MOT in February she had advises for wishbone bush, exhaust leak and rear suspension mounts as borderline as follows...

Seat belt anchorage prescribed area is corroded but not considered excessive

Nearside and offside rear inner wheel arch's, underseal applied and trim present. BORDERLINE (7.1.1 (a) (i))

Suspension component mounting prescribed area is corroded but not considered excessive Nearside and offside rear inner wheel arch's, underseal applied and trim present. BORDERLINE (5.3.6 (a) (i))

According to the MOT tester these are quite common areas on a Jazz and as it was done at a MOT only place, I've no reason to suspect he was angling for business.

We subsequently got ripped off by a mobile mechanic who we employed to do the MOT advises( a whole other story and yes they were a recommended person) and had to give it a new exhaust and cat at £500 from a fast fit place as he damaged the system along side having the wishbone done. For various reasons I had to ask him to stop work and leave.

At the time it was a needs must to get it back on the road quickly as she needed it for work.
So now she is thinking does she see if we can find someone to do welding to sort the rust advisories? But would we be chasing welding every year now it has started being necessary.

Or do we sc*** it (£250 offered by sc*** dealer) and find something else.

To get into a newer Jazz CVT auto, post 2011 after the ishift model(unreliable), she is looking at £6K or more which seems a lot even with the current used car inflation.

I haven't got a price for welding in replacement metal yet, but I'm guessing it will be around £1k as welding isn't cheap.

I've said maybe consider a Venga (I have one of these) or ix20, as apart from the magic seats they have similar space and aren't notorious for rust on the petrols (admittedly the diesel fuel tanks do suffer rust).

We did look at Vauxhall Zafira Tourer with the 1.4 Turbo engine and 6 speed torque converter auto but it appears they love eating head gaskets so reliability is questionable.

I appreciate its an 18 year old car, but when similar age models with more miles are advertising around £2k, it seems a shame to sc*** it after having to get the exhaust done and it having what appears to be low miles for its age. I've had a look and can probably reinstate the aircon if it is a condenser for around £150 - £200.

She needs auto / petrol / boot 350 litres or more / preferably cam chain / around £5k but can stretch for right car / not SUV stylee / working AC / not black.

To put it in her words, she wants "a car that goes brum and is as reliable as possible" (don't we all!!)

Honda Jazz - Honda Jazz 2007 - to sc*** or attempt fix? - elekie&a/c doctor
Presumably it has a current mot ? I wouldn’t do any unnecessary repairs to it . Leave it run to the next mot . Start to look around for replacement. My sister has an ix20 , very capable motor with loads of space . Unexciting but it’s functional and does the job.
Honda Jazz - Honda Jazz 2007 - to sc*** or attempt fix? - Paul Robinson

My daughter has just sold a very similar 2005 Jazz for £1,800, so I should think it's worth repairing!

Honda Jazz - Honda Jazz 2007 - to sc*** or attempt fix? - bathtub tom

You say the A/C hasn't worked since she's had it and you suspect the condenser's damaged. From my knowledge of A/C systems, it's probably got air and water vapour in the system, so it'll probably need a new dryer too and there's still no guarantee it'll work.

I'm of the same opinion as elekie&a/c doctor, run it to the next MOT.

Honda Jazz - Honda Jazz 2007 - to sc*** or attempt fix? - VengaPete


On these the condenser and dryer are a unit. So a new condenser also sorts the dryer.

Honda Jazz - Honda Jazz 2007 - to sc*** or attempt fix? - SLO76
Once it gets to this stage it’ll need welding for every Mot. I’d say run it until the current ticket is up and replace it with something newer. If it doesn’t cover much mileage and she can charge it at home a used Nissan Leaf is a very cheap reliable and easy to drive option.
Honda Jazz - Honda Jazz 2007 - to sc*** or attempt fix? - edlithgow
Once it gets to this stage it’ll need welding for every Mot. I’d say run it until the current ticket is up and replace it with something newer. .

IF it gets to this stage of needing welding for every Mot. I’d say run it until the current ticket is upand then buy a welder

BUT IF it gets to this stage of needing welding for every Mot. I’d say the welding (and associated rustproofing) it is getting for every MOT is being done really badly, pretty much by definition.

Perhaps even to professional standards of real badness

Edited by edlithgow on 03/07/2025 at 04:29

Honda Jazz - Honda Jazz 2007 - to sc*** or attempt fix? - Adampr

If it has an MOT until February, why on earth would you sc*** it? If you don't want to fix it, just sell it

Honda Jazz - Honda Jazz 2007 - to sc*** or attempt fix? - VengaPete

If it has an MOT until February, why on earth would you sc*** it? If you don't want to fix it, just sell it

The MOT is March 04th 2026.
Her job and medical issues require she has a working car.
We are trying to avoid getting into the situation where a panic buy becomes necessary so are trying to figure out if repairing is going to be worthwhile as mechanically, Jazzes are very reliable and it appears that the 82K hers has done is not that far compared with some we see advertised.

Edited by VengaPete on 03/07/2025 at 13:37

Honda Jazz - Honda Jazz 2007 - to sc*** or attempt fix? - VengaPete
Once it gets to this stage it’ll need welding for every Mot. I’d say run it until the current ticket is up and replace it with something newer. If it doesn’t cover much mileage and she can charge it at home a used Nissan Leaf is a very cheap reliable and easy to drive option.

This is where I am to be honest. Most of the miles are town but she does do cross country trips around 200 miles quite often and stops regularly as her husband has to have regular breaks.
She raises the issue of charging taking longer than a "splash and dash" which is quite legitimate along with charging stations often being out of action and more recently suffering vandalism for the copper, so maybe I'll see if a hybrid with the right body shape / size that can fit the bill.
Charging at home is most definitely possible as well and her cousin is a sparky who supplies them so she'd also get a good deal on fitting.

Honda Jazz - Honda Jazz 2007 - to sc*** or attempt fix? - badbusdriver
Once it gets to this stage it’ll need welding for every Mot. I’d say run it until the current ticket is up and replace it with something newer. If it doesn’t cover much mileage and she can charge it at home a used Nissan Leaf is a very cheap reliable and easy to drive option.

This is where I am to be honest. Most of the miles are town but she does do cross country trips around 200 miles quite often and stops regularly as her husband has to have regular breaks.
She raises the issue of charging taking longer than a "splash and dash" which is quite legitimate along with charging stations often being out of action and more recently suffering vandalism for the copper, so maybe I'll see if a hybrid with the right body shape / size that can fit the bill.
Charging at home is most definitely possible as well and her cousin is a sparky who supplies them so she'd also get a good deal on fitting.

Looking on Autotrader, Renault Zoe's with the 52kWh battery (WLTP range is circa 240 miles, expect 190-210 real world average, more if driven with an eye on efficiency) are kicking off at just under £6.5k (up to 70k miles, no ins write offs). Boot volume of 338 litres is more or less the same as a 2011 (2nd gen) Jazz (337 litres).