Lawn mower - keel
My old Petrol mower is getting very difficult for old me to pull start. Any suggestions for a push button start mower or a battery one would be appreciated. Lawns approx 150 sq M
Lawn mower - Adampr

Battery ones are pretty good. Buy one from a brand that has a battery 'system' (Makita, Stihl, Ryobi, Einhell) and you can use the batteries in other tools.

Also worth thinking about a robot mower. We have the cheapest Flymo (Gardena and Husqvarna are the same) which has been merrily chomping away for the last 3+ years.

Lawn mower - bathtub tom

Have you tried using E5 in it?

Lawn mower - Andrew-T

We have a 20-year-old Hayter with a Briggs-Stratton engine, which has a battery start because SWMBO wanted it as she used to mow then. No longer the case, and I have always used the pull-start since she stopped mowing. Usually takes only 2 or 3 pulls in warm weather. Maybe your mower just needs a service - ours gets one every other winter ?

Lawn mower - Falkirk Bairn

My McCulloch, 21" petrol power drive rotary mower - starts usually with 3/4 good pulls at the start of the mowing season - fresh E5 petrol every spring. Autumn 1/2 gallon or so goes in the car

For the rest of the summer rarely fails to start on first pull.

Never had it serviced, oil changed by me every 2 years or so.

It was £220 to buy in 2012 - servicing the local outlet wants £70+ - bangernomics although it was bought new. If it last 4 years it owes me nothing.

Although still fine at cutting the grass the body is rusting. Negotiating with SWMBO about a new one cost is around £350 - Costco usually take £100 or so off about now - that would bring it down to under £250 - we have authority to buy anything under £250 without clearing it with one another.

It's not a matter of counting the pennies nowadays - it stretches back 54+ years to when we had mortgage and then 3 kids that seemed to appear from nowhere.

Lawn mower - Xileno

"we have authority to buy anything under £250 without clearing it with one another."

Ten handbags at £249 each then... ;-)

I would clean or replace the plug and air filter. Always drain down at the end of the season as well. Then always use fresh petrol at the start of the next season. I have a cheap mower, Italian I think, but the engine is B&S and it will start after one or two pulls at the time of the first cut.

Lawn mower - gordonbennet

My dad always swore by Hayter for small mowers, so some years ago i bought one, not only did it need regular cleaning of the carb jet to ensure starting and running the thing would clog up numerous times each cut unless the grass was absolutely bone dry, spent £110 on a full service only for the same starting issues by autumn of the same year.

Enough, so already having some DW batteries splashed out on a Dewalt mower, its a bit of beast a bit like an offroader of rotary mowers but sadly lacking self drive, however it laughs at wet grass and just does the job no matter what, not cheap but very well built, probably worth the extra for self drive unless fit enough for push power.

Lawn mower - paul 1963

Sons just bought a secondhand petrol Mountfield mower, paid a very reasonable £50 for it, runs and cuts a treat.

I've only got a fairly small area of grass back and front, hesitate to call.it a lawn, got dogs! So my corded qualcast suits me.

Lawn mower - Orb>>.

I bought an Aldi electric mower when it was on sale 8 years ago. Still going strong cuts wet grass but need to clean chute into basket but easy done. £35.00.

Paid for itself many times over.

Lawn mower - Terry W

Used to have a petrol Mountfield which could be a pain to start. Quick fix was a squirt of electrical contact cleaner into the carb, then pull the cord. Big bang then motor running.

Thought about electric but they cost and most available s/h were being sold because of electric start failure. I suspect the primary cause was overwintering in a cold damp shed which kills batteries.

Subsequently moved and with a smaller garden bought a battery mower as a replacement. On a 5AH battery it will just about do front and back covering ~120sq m (much of the outside space is paved).

Lawn mower - John F

A few years ago bought an electric Bosch rotary. Ran OK for around 4yrs, then battery failed after I left it out all night and it got wet. Wouldn't recharge. Now gathers dust in shed. Avoid! Neighbour let me have his duff old Mountfield Empress roller rotary for a tenner - Briggs and Stratton engine, just needed the magnet mounts tightening, carburettor clean and a new drive belt. Always starts easily (has an electric start but can't be bothered to replace flat battery). Best starter is the old Villiers on my late father's 1960s Atco 17". Still works perfectly - only cost has been replacement chain on which a link failed and replacement fuel pipe and on/off tap.

OP does not mention which engine he has. It might just need a carb clean, or a replacement gasket if it is one of the Briggs and Stratton small engine plastic variety which has no float chamber. Common problem is grot and/or water in the float chamber. Or a failed rubber primer bulb if it has one.

Lawn mower - movilogo

I found electric lawn mowers are better over petrol or battery because

  1. uninterrupted power supply for long time (good for large lawns)
  2. almost no maintenance (except change of blade every ~3 years)
  3. reasonably priced

I use with an extended cord to cover the end of the garden. Just need to be careful that I don't run over the cable :-)

Lawn mower - Robert J.

Not a lawnmower but some Mountfield hedge trimmers with a two stroke petrol engine I have were difficult to start and keep running. The local repair man recommended using Aspen 2 petrol which is completely alcohol free and improved running no end. There is another version, Aspen 4 for four stroke engine (without oil in it).

Lawn mower - focussed
How to improve starting for your garden equipment.

Whatever it is -do this.

Don't use fuel with ethanol - Total Excellium E5 in the UK is reputed to not have ethanol in it, or use Aspen if you can afford it.

When you finish mowing, keep the engine running, turn off the fuel from the tank to the carb, keep running the engine flat out until it starts to falter, if manual choke, gradually keep closing the choke to empty the carb float chamber, then totally close the choke as the engine dies.
If it has an auto choke ignore closing the choke.
Pull the recoil starter until you can feel it's on compression and leave it there, this closes off the cylinder from the atmosphere and protects the valves from corrosion.

When you come to start it again, open fuel tap, count to ten to let the float chamber fill, set controls to start - off you go.

(if your mower hasn't got a fuel tap - some don't nowadays - get one fitted, plenty available on Amazon)

Our oldest mower from 2010 is a GGP/Mountfield small ride-on with a 6.5 hp Briggs professional motor, we bought it new for €600 from the local supermarket in a packing case. Recently we bought a bigger tractor mower to cope with long grass, so the GGP/Mountfield got parked for 12 months.
When I came to use it again, it started second pull - it's manual start, no starter motor.

Lawn mower - John F
How to improve starting for your garden equipment. Whatever it is -do this. Don't use fuel with ethanol

My two petrol mowers (Mountfield Empress -Briggs &Stratton; Atco 17" -Villiers) date from the last century and have always started perfectly well with unleaded and now E10.

When you finish mowing, keep the engine running, turn off the fuel from the tank to the carb, keep running the engine flat out until it starts to falter, if manual choke, gradually keep closing the choke to empty the carb float chamber, then totally close the choke as the engine dies. If it has an auto choke ignore closing the choke.

I have never (waste of fuel) and would not ever do this. There is a risk that the float might stick (it occasionally does on the Villers) and fail to rise to shut off the inlet valve, resulting in fuel overflow. It also exposes the interior of the chamber to cool damp air, with resulting condensation and corrosion.

Pull the recoil starter until you can feel it's on compression and leave it there, this closes off the cylinder from the atmosphere and protects the valves from corrosion.

Makes sense in theory for a single cylinder engine; in practice it doesn't seem to matter. In multi-cylinder vintage cars with infrequently used engines several decades old (obviously impossible to ensure all cylinders airtight at rest) I have never heard of 'valve corrosion'.

(if your mower hasn't got a fuel tap - some don't nowadays - get one fitted, plenty available on Amazon) Our oldest mower from 2010 is a GGP/Mountfield small ride-on...

The Briggs & Strattons in my Empress and the equally ancient churchyard Mountfield rotary (which I also maintain) have no fuel tap. They really aren't necessary (cars don't have them - and I doubt if many motorbikes do) and , in the case of the one on my 60+ yr old Atco, just something else to go wrong; I had to replace the seizing/leaky original some years ago

Here's a piece of advice which I don't think has been mentioned: at the end of the season, brush and sc***e it clean (especially if it's a cheap rotary steel deck as opposed to a quality Mountfield aluminium job) and paint exposed metal bits (and also the difficult-to-get-at back plate on cylinder mowers) with old engine oil. Otherwise a steel deck, even if galvanised, can rust through in only a few years.

I wonder if we will hear from the now well-informed OP?

Lawn mower - keel
Thanks for all the replies, much appreciated. Lots to think about but might go for a new battery powered mower. Put the £80 annual service this Autumn towards it.
Lawn mower - Random

Good decision, I've had an Ego mower for several years. Very pleased with it, so much so that at least three near neighbours have one. If one of these is too large for your needs a friend has a Stihl battery operated mower, they're good too.

Lawn mower - corax

Bought a Stihl RMA 239C battery mower recently. Very well designed. Cuts damp grass without clogging, mono handle makes it easy to get to grass box for emptying, light to lift into the car to transport, easy to push, batteries last ages on single charge. I got a deal with an extra free battery. Expensive but well recommended.

Lawn mower - focussed
"I wonder if we will hear from the now well-informed OP?"

Yes you will - What a load of r****** - Villiers? Seriously?


I am recounting what is actually the results of an experiment using the scientific method which is:-

1 Develop a theory.
2 Carry out an experiment
3 Collect the results of the experiment
4 Decide if the results of the experiment agree with the theory.
5 Conclusion - Do the results of the experiment agree with the original theory?
Yes they do.

Please feel free to repeat the experiment and publish your results.

Lawn mower - Andrew-T
I am recounting what is actually the results of an experiment using the scientific method which is:- 1 Develop a theory. 2 Carry out an experiment 3 Collect the results of the experiment 4 Decide if the results of the experiment agree with the theory. 5 Conclusion - Do the results of the experiment agree with the original theory? Yes they do. Please feel free to repeat the experiment and publish your results.

Having been an experimental scientist for over 15 years I understand and sympathise with this attitude. However it seems not to allow for the possibility that there may be more than one way to skin the cat, perhaps especially in the case of petrol mowers.

My own Hayter is not perfect, but it nearly always starts easily, tho that has varied a bit following biennial servicing. Once started, I usually follow the advice of the late lamented Paul Jennings (humour correspondent for The Observer in the 50s to 70s) : Never Let It Stop. My lawn takes just under an hour to cut on a good day, and the fuel tank is just large enough to allow that.

Lawn mower - corax
My own Hayter is not perfect, but it nearly always starts easily, tho that has varied a bit following biennial servicing. Once started, I usually follow the advice of the late lamented Paul Jennings (humour correspondent for The Observer in the 50s to 70s) : Never Let It Stop. My lawn takes just under an hour to cut on a good day, and the fuel tank is just large enough to allow that.

So if you're not letting it stop, and you're using a grass box, you must have the safety handle tied up. An appropriately sized S hook is ideal for this.

Lawn mower - Andrew-T

<< ... if you're not letting it stop, and you're using a grass box, you must have the safety handle tied up. An appropriately sized S hook is ideal for this. >>

I made my own hook from plastic-coated garden wire ! Just turn the throttle down to idle while I empty the box.

Lawn mower - Xileno

Depends how old the mower is. I think the 'Dead Man's control' law came in sometime in the mid nineties, judging by which mowers of my fleet have it and which don't.

Lawn mower - John F
"I wonder if we will hear from the now well-informed OP?" Yes you will - What a load of r****** - Villiers? Seriously?

Which bit was r******? Atco was a very good customer for Villiers. See below - scroll down to 'post-war.....'

villiersengineering.com/history/#:~:text=At%20the%...t.

Lawn mower - Falkirk Bairn

Needing or would like a new lawnmover?

B&Q have a sale of lawnmowers, strimmers etc etc

My current lawnmower is 13 year old. I had been looking to replace it.

Saw a 46cm MacAllister cut from £289/£219 earlier in the season cut to £164

Other sizes, Other makes Petrol & Electric and Battery. Worth a look IMHO

Lawn mower - Brit_in_Germany

I thought hedgehog slaughtering robotic mowers were the thing to have nowadays.

Lawn mower - Adampr

I thought hedgehog slaughtering robotic mowers were the thing to have nowadays.

I'm not sure how a robot mower is supposed to hurt a hedgehog. Just possibly a slow worm.

Lawn mower - bathtub tom

I'm not sure how a robot mower is supposed to hurt a hedgehog.

My neighbour's 'professional' gardener managed to terminally damage one with a strimmer. The poor thing crept into my garden and expired.

Lawn mower - Adampr

I'm not sure how a robot mower is supposed to hurt a hedgehog.

My neighbour's 'professional' gardener managed to terminally damage one with a strimmer. The poor thing crept into my garden and expired.

Sadly quite common. Normally from jamming a brush cutter into the undergrowth and stirring it around rather than actually looking.

Given what happens with tennis balls and my robot mower, a mower would bump into a hedgehog (assuming it didn't just walk away), stop and reverse. There is no way it could get on top of a hedgehog to cut it and the bump sensor is very sensitive.