Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - Steveieb

I vaguely remember a post on here documenting the problem with hybrid cars from Honda and Toyota refusing to start after being left unused for two or three days.

But Toyota dealers in particular identifying a flat auxiliary battery, recharging it and sending the customer on their way possibly for the fault to reoccur.

The solution i recall is to fit an auxiliary battery with increased capacity but they are reluctant to go down that path unless pressed by the customer in view of the cost to the company.

Grateful for a reminder as this is the scenario happening to a friend .

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - Xileno

Probably this thread from the Technical forum.

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=197661

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - skidpan

The solution i recall is to fit an auxiliary battery with increased capacity but they are reluctant to go down that path unless pressed by the customer in view of the cost to the company.

Not an auxiliary battery but a replacement battery which some say has an higher capacity whereas others say its the same capacity but a different make. It seems there was a bad batch of batteries fitted and its cars with these that have the issue. Toyota have been changing the batteries on cars affected but if the car is used everyday you would be unlikely to have an issue.

Ours has been left for just over a week twice with no issues, lets see what happens next week.

Quick question, where would you fit the auxiliary battery? The standard 12v battery is under the back seat along with the traction battery, no space there. No space under the bonnet either.

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - Big John

Quick question, where would you fit the auxiliary battery? The standard 12v battery is under the back seat along with the traction battery, no space there. No space under the bonnet either.

Depends on the car. Our Swace (1.8 hybrid Corolla TS in drag) has what looks like a conventional normal sized 12v car battery under the bonnet. Hybrid batteries are under the rear seat but I suppose you could fit another battery below decks in the boots area. Not that I would want to, I have a space saver wheel / jack etc and lots of "stuff" under the boot floor - surprisingly capacious. NB The 2.0 version of the Corolla TS has the standard 12v battery under the boot floor.

Having already read reports of 12v battery going flat with a full hybrid if the car left for some time I've got an emergency battery pack in a box stored under my passenger front seat. - to be honest it's a carry over from my previous Superb, never used in anger thus far.

Edited by Big John on 13/05/2025 at 16:25

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - skidpan

NB The 2.0 version of the Corolla TS has the standard 12v battery under the boot floor.

The battery in the 2 litre TS is in the boot but in the pocket on the drivers side.

Still room for a full size spare under the floor.

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - Manatee

Would one of the new fangled lithium-ion boosters be of help in starting a stranded Yaris hybrid?

I carry one but had never used it until a month ago when a neighbour called because his wife's Fiesta had been left for about 3 months and wouldn't even attempt to start.

I connected up and it whizzed over very energetically, starting almost immediately. I had been a sceptic - these things barely weight a lb. purport to be about 14Ah and charge via USB.

This is the one I have - I ordered him one. Now down to £40.

www.amazon.co.uk/4000A-Starter-Power-Diesel-Engine...N

Edited by Manatee on 13/05/2025 at 17:06

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - Ethan Edwards

Those things are great. I've bought one myself. In case the 12v on my EV flunks out. That stops the traction battery from doing it's thing. I'd hazard that Hybrids are similar situation.

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - skidpan

Depends on the car.

The title of the thread is Yaris, the Corolla and Swace are different.

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - Big John

Depends on the car.

The title of the thread is Yaris, the Corolla and Swace are different.

Agreed, but the 12v battery going flat seems to be a thing with all the Toyota based hybrids and the 12v battery location and or size varies between age, models, engine size, plug in or not etc... It's not happened to me yet but it is a bit of a worry to be honest.

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - Ian_SW

Depends on the car.

The title of the thread is Yaris, the Corolla and Swace are different.

Agreed, but the 12v battery going flat seems to be a thing with all the Toyota based hybrids and the 12v battery location and or size varies between age, models, engine size, plug in or not etc... It's not happened to me yet but it is a bit of a worry to be honest.

It happened to me, but was down to a faulty window regulator which drained the battery, rather than it running down naturally.

I can confirm that if it does happen, the car can be jump started and then driven normally. I called the Suzuki Recovery (AA) out as the car was in warranty, but if it does happen again now, having seen it done exactly as on a normal car, I'd have the confidence to do it myself.

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - corax

I can confirm that if it does happen, the car can be jump started and then driven normally.

I would still charge the battery with a smart charger afterwards to be sure, because how many miles would you have to drive until there was sufficient charge for it not to happen again, or be confident that you could leave it for a few days (without getting out the jump starter again).

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - Heidfirst

Depends on the car.

The title of the thread is Yaris, the Corolla and Swace are different.

Agreed, but the 12v battery going flat seems to be a thing with all the Toyota based hybrids and the 12v battery location and or size varies between age, models, engine size, plug in or not etc... It's not happened to me yet but it is a bit of a worry to be honest.

Not such a big issue in the Corolla as the standard fit is a 45Ah battery whereas the Yaris is a 35Ah.

(there was an issue with Corollas where the DCM wasn't shutting down properly leading to flat 12V batteries but that was resolved with a software update).

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - Will deBeast

We have a 2-year old Corolla.

We've been away for 14-16 days a few times and not had a problem.

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - Lee Power

But Toyota dealers in particular identifying a flat auxiliary battery, recharging it and sending the customer on their way possibly for the fault to reoccur.

The solution i recall is to fit an auxiliary battery with increased capacity but they are reluctant to go down that path unless pressed by the customer in view of the cost to the company.

There is a set testing procedure that Toyota dealers have to follow before Toyota UK will reimburse them for replacing the 12 volt battery.

I have seen a copy of this procedure & it's unlikely most battery's that have gone flat would fail the required tests.

I get the feeling some dealers just take the hit on the cost of the 12 volt battery as not to upset the customer.

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - Big John

My hybrid is fitted with a Varta 345 LN1-MF 45Ah CCA 286A 12v battery.

I doubt if the CCA figure is important with a hybrid as the battery doesn't operate a high current starrer motor but is there a better battery (higher Ah?) to ultimately replace this battery and would something like an AGM battery help?

In a different car I always regarded a Varta as being an excellent battery. In my old 2003 diesel the original Varta lasted 12 years in my ownership and many more years afterwards when I sold it to a colleague.

PS thus far I've had no problems.

Edited by Big John on 14/05/2025 at 18:54

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - skidpan

but is there a better battery (higher Ah?) to ultimately replace this battery and would something like an AGM battery help?

OEM spec battery should be fine unless you are very unlucky.

An AGM battery would be a bad idea if Toyota don't fit one, they charge at different voltages.

Why on earth do you want to spoil a perfectly OK car?

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - Big John

but is there a better battery (higher Ah?) to ultimately replace this battery and would something like an AGM battery help?

OEM spec battery should be fine unless you are very unlucky.

An AGM battery would be a bad idea if Toyota don't fit one, they charge at different voltages.

Why on earth do you want to spoil a perfectly OK car?

I wouldn't - I was just trying to see if anyone has "upgraded" such a 12v battery more for the benefit of others that have had a problem - eg I've spotted some mention use of a slightly higher Ah Yuasa conventional batteries elsewhere (54Ah v 45Ah).

I drive my car most days so I suspect I'm less likely to have an issue - fingers crossed.

One mistake with a car with Toyota hybrid gubbins is using Neutral for an extended period of time eg stuck in traffic. The car does not charge the 12v battery in this mode.

Edited by Big John on 14/05/2025 at 23:24

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - Heidfirst

If you are not already over there I would join Toyotaownersclub forum - imo best UK Toyota general forums

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - De Sisti

If you are not already over there I would join Toyotaownersclub forum - imo best UK Toyota general forums

I've joined the forum, as my next car will be from the brand (probably a Yaris or Corolla) to replace my BMW E46. However, with the current maintenance routine it endures, replacement could be a long way away.

Toyota Yaris Hybrid - Car refusing to start after holiday - bathtub tom

If you are not already over there I would join Toyotaownersclub forum - imo best UK Toyota general forums

I got chucked out of there, perhaps edlithgow and I should start some type of club?