Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - elekie&a/c doctor
Friend has a model x with a failed headrest motor . Sorry, part only available complete with the seat £3k . Yikes . Managed to get a s/h seat with the part for £200
Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - De Sisti
Friend has a model x with a failed headrest motor . Sorry, part only available complete with the seat £3k . Yikes . Managed to get a s/h seat with the part for £200

Where was the second-hand seat acquired from?

It would be nice to have more details on this, so that it may help others in the future.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - badbusdriver

About what I'd expect and not really much worse than adampr's Skoda headlight!

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - badbusdriver

Where was the second-hand seat acquired from?

It would be nice to have more details on this, so that it may help others in the future.

Presumably any online breaker, Ebay, etc.

About 30 seconds was enough to find this one on Ebay for £195:

145540927327

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - gordonbennet

Thats naughty and once these things become common knowledge will have some effects on used values, the more canny will be enlisting the services of workshops who specialise in rebuilding ecus and rewinding motors etc.

Those of us with large Toyotas with the electric pump driven brake accumulator know where to send the offending item to (London), they rebuild the motor for around £200, which is a bit better than the several £thousand that the combined master cyl/ABSunit/accumulator would cost if you went to the main dealer.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - daveyjp

Not that many years ago Tesla refused to give out any details of part numbers etc. Any repairs had to be done at dealers as they were the only ones who could source parts.

It meant vehicles which could be repaired by any competent DIYer were written off as dealers charged eyewatering labour rates.

As a result spare parts from written off vehicles became very valuable!

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - elekie&a/c doctor
As more and more EVs get written off for minor damage, I can see the s/h parts market becoming very lucrative. Insurance companies are not interested in repairs to these as they are an unknown quantity, with insufficient technicians to repair them .
Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - Brit_in_Germany

Insurance cost will rise first which will either have the result of Teslas becoming unaffordable, like Range Rovers, or Tesla changing their spare parts policy.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - John F

Could it be that Tesla is trying to follow the example of airplane makers who make much of their money from spares, not selling new ones? I see the average age of retirement of commercial airliners is well over 20yrs.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - Andrew-T

Insurance cost will rise first which will either have the result of Teslas becoming unaffordable, like Range Rovers, or Tesla changing their spare parts policy.

I suspect this may be part of the reason for this year's premium rises which several on here have been reporting ?

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - SLO76
Overpricing parts reveals a short-term attitude towards the business. Once dealers have been stung a few times they'll price in this factor when it comes to valuing cars. The same thing has c******d Subaru in the UK for many years. Dealer only parts are ludicrously expensive and thus used values take a hammering. EV residuals are bad enough without this sort of flawed thinking.

It also runs counter to the notion that the firm actually cares about the environment. If they wanted people to keep their cars longer and thus generate less damage to the environment then prices for parts should be lower as the car ages. Volvo (back when it was actually Volvo) used to reduced the cost of servicing and parts on cars that were older than 5yrs of age and they’d continue to manufacture components well beyond the timescale other manufacturers stopped supporting their models. It was common to see elderly 240’s and 740’s on the road and our local Volvo dealer would often be the ones maintaining them.

Tesla’s like all too many of today’s products are disposable items. They may be largely recyclable but they’d cause far less damage if they could viably be run for longer.

Edited by SLO76 on 06/03/2024 at 13:09

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - corax

I don't know how I've managed to get through life without a headrest motor :-)

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - Steveieb

Cleveley Electric Cars based in Cheltenham will attempt to repair EVs down to component level but they are I understand finding it difficult to engage Main Dealers in allowing access to their software to register used parts onto the vehicles system. They are building up a stock of used parts and now have a mobile service operating Nationwide.

On one occasion involving an I3 with a battery fuse fault, they replaced the main fuse , saving the customer thousands due to a wrong diagnosis only to be refused assistance in allowing the part to talk to the cars main computer.

A call to the companies Head Office solved the problem eventually.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - Terry W

Owners spending £40-60k or more on a car are generally unconcerned about the long term cost of spares. It is probably a company purchase or lease, offset against tax. Car may be kept for no more than 3-4 years when failure will mostly be covered by warranty.

In the event of an accident the insurance company will pay. That manufacturers price spares unreasonably high does increase insurance costs but this is something of an incidental cost.

The owner (company or individual) of the £40-60k motor may spend ~£10k a year on a lease, or suffer a similar depreciation cost. That high priced spare parts may put a few £'hundred on the insurance premium is relatively trivial.

The real problem rests w ith 2nd and 3rdowners who buy a high spec vehicle, probably have a more modest income, and will find the costs of insurance or OEM spares difficult to afford.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - pd

Car manufacturers, in Europe and the UK anyway, have to allow independent dealers access to parts and service information and usually coding of parts as well.

They are allowed to charge for it but if they block it completely long term then they'll get in trouble.

Of course with EVs only selling in volume for the last 3-4 years it is probably only now demand will start to pick up for non main dealer services as, until now, the vast majority of EVs on the roads have been under main dealer and warranty service.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - movilogo

What was the age the of the? I presume it was outside warranty.

Many manufactures have similarly priced components.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - John F

The real problem rests with 2nd and 3rdowners who buy a high spec vehicle, probably have a more modest income, and will find the costs of insurance or OEM spares difficult to afford.

Not necessarily. My 18yr old high spec A8 (briefly Audi's halo quattro sports saloon in 2004) is not particularly expensive to insure (just abandoned LV= and paid £303 to Swinton classic) and it is not necessary to have Audi OEM replacement parts. IIRC the front brake pads from (I think) 'autodoc' only cost around £35 and were easy enough for an amateur septuagenarian mechanic (me) to fit.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - John F

I don't know how I've managed to get through life without a headrest motor :-)

...and a steering wheel position adjustment motor :-)

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - Engineer Andy
Friend has a model x with a failed headrest motor . Sorry, part only available complete with the seat £3k . Yikes . Managed to get a s/h seat with the part for £200

They'd better hope they don't keep the car too long - I've already heard tales from the US where Telsa themselves refuse to maintain older cars of theirs. I'd bet also that they won't be making parts after that 10year period once production ceases, no matter how many cars they've sold.

So many modern things are not modular and you have to spend a fortune to repair what often is a tiny part. Many parts appear to be deliberately (not just one make either) made so that you cannot replace or repair sub-components, especially bit known not to last.

I'd rather pay more at the start for something where it could be easily and cheaply repair (and was highly reliable) and for a LONG time.

Manufacturers (not just cars) behaviour makes a mockery of supposedly better engineered products. They may do more and better whilst the work, but aside from corrosion protection in cars, they don't last any longer and over a lifetime, I'd bet you now end up paying more just to keep buying new things or major components than repairing the small sub-components as used to be the case 40+ years ago.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - pd

I suspect it a headrest motor failed in a BMW, Kia, Mercedes, Volvo, Mazda, Audi or whatever the main dealer solution would be any different to replace the seat.

A quick look on eBay suggests Tesla used parts prices are very, very similar to any other manufacturer.

I had to pay £350 for a used headlight for a 14 year old Volvo last week.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - gordonbennet

Our ageing 2 door Merc coupe has electric seat belt presenters, when you close the door the appropriate selt belt is pushed out of the B pillar and when you clip it in the presenting arm then retracts into the pillar.

The only real wear part is the end piece which the belt slides through, the one on our driver's door became brittle and snapped, visited the glass palace and near enough every part of the mechanism has its own part number, the end piece was £16, the car was probably 18 years old at that point.

I think having to replace a complete seat at that frankly ridiculous cost for a head rest motor (pointless tat anyway) just about takes the biscuit, if i was in any mind to consider a battery car Tesla has ruled itself straight out.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - Adampr

Headrest motor indeed!

Still, these prices are stupid. After the alarm of my £900 headlamp (story to be completed at hopefully much less cost in the near future), I am considering ditching my Karoq and buying something older and cheaper that costs normal money to fix.

I have no objection at all to paying labour, but parts costing crazy money is problematic for me. So are motorised headrests...

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - Chris M

Isn't part of the problem the lack of ability within the workshop? The seat would presumably need dismantling, motor fitted and then reassembled. Replacement seat is probably a connector or two and four bolts.

Your headlamp fix Adampr, would require finding a technician who was capable of using the repair kit. The dealer is on the hook if they cock it up and the headlamp falls out after two weeks.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - pd

A quick check of the Tesla electronic parts catalogue (which, credit to them, is freely available and you don't even need to register for) shows the vast majority of seats parts are available just as any other manufacturer including motors, runners and individual seat parts.

It is just the headrest motor which seems to be absent possibly because it comes integrated into another seat part.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - pd

It seems like this might be r****** anyway as on most model years anyway you CAN replace them:

service.tesla.com/docs/ModelX/ServiceManual/en-us/...l

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - Brit_in_Germany

I read an article today from 'This is Money' via MSN to the effect that BYD Seals are very difficult to insure, with most insurers refusing to quote due to a lack of availability of spare parts. BYD said they are taking this matter 'very seriously'.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - gordonbennet

Headrest motor indeed!

Still, these prices are stupid. After the alarm of my £900 headlamp (story to be completed at hopefully much less cost in the near future), I am considering ditching my Karoq and buying something older and cheaper that costs normal money to fix.

I have no objection at all to paying labour, but parts costing crazy money is problematic for me. So are motorised headrests...

They all have their oddities and downsides.

Just had an MOT failure on the ageing Forester, rear shock absorber leaking.

Not a great issue except these appear to have one off self levelling shockers (i've found these before on Volvos and they cost a fortune) which are made to order in Japan for Subaru and there are no self levelling aftermarket parts available, the self leveller allows weaker springs to be used as they have a spring effect of their own.

So i'm now waiting for two new standard rear shockers to arrive, the stronger springs to suit and new dust covers and bump stops (£250 so far), the other issue is our model is the facelift, the last 3 years of that shape and comes with Xenon lights which have a rheostat sensor attached to the rear suspension, here's hoping i can sort something out if the necessary fittings are missing from the replacement shock absorbers.

The other shocker (hoho) is that the indy we've used for years refused completely to repair the vehicle, we would have left it there for them to fix, the woman behind the desk (whom my wife hasn't laid eyes on before) said to SWMBO they've had trouble with people who've never turned up when they've ordered parts in etc...as if we were total strangers, so one size fits all and all our previous custom means nothing, rather insulting.

I don't think they had time to suss out the parts involved, either way with the attitude they've lost a customer.

I've got to fix it or the car is effectively sc***, the XT (2.5 turbocharged versons) are still worth decent money, they are more or less an Imprezza in a box shaped estate frock.

Rare cars can be a headache, had to replace the exhaust on the Forester, must be 4 years ago, OE is out of the question 4 figure sum, aftermarket mild steel are all wrong despite being sold as suitable, the turbo versions have a 2.5" bore system, all of the aftermarket are 2" only and meant for the more common 2.0 litre NA version, we ended up getting a cat back stainless system custom made and fitted, which incidentally was cheaper than the wrong mild steel system would have been.

Sometimes you can see why people go PCP/lease and effectively rent cars for 3 years and hand them back.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - corax

So i'm now waiting for two new standard rear shockers to arrive, the stronger springs to suit and new dust covers and bump stops (£250 so far), the other issue is our model is the facelift, the last 3 years of that shape and comes with Xenon lights which have a rheostat sensor attached to the rear suspension, here's hoping i can sort something out if the necessary fittings are missing from the replacement shock absorbers.

I had to do that to mine, although thankfully it didn't have the Xenon lights. I was quite pleased with the new set up as there wasn't much change in the ride quality.

There's a lot to be said for owning commonplace cars if you're using them daily. My Subaru, although I enjoyed it, could be a pain when something needed replacing. Some young kid cracked my door mirror hurtling around a blind corner too close, and I ended up sticking a cheap replacement over the top because it was hard to get a genuine one. When I had a windscreen replacement, they did away with the original rubber seal around the edge and put an aftermarket one on. It was constantly coming unstuck. Had I known I would have asked them to give me the original because I couldn't find another. It was a pain anyway, as at high speed, air would force itself through a gap and the sudden high pitched noise would scare the daylights out of me. It was only cosmetic, nothing to do with sealing the windscreen itself.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - gordonbennet

I had to do that to mine, although thankfully it didn't have the Xenon lights. I was quite pleased with the new set up as there wasn't much change in the ride quality.

Just sat down having removed both shockers and seperated the springs and shocks, re-using top mounts and rubber bottom spring seat.

Pretty straightforward and no snapped bolts or rounded nuts, no rust on the body at all, hoping everything turns and is correct so can get it back in within the 2 week period.

What kit do you use Corax? i've bought KYB shocks and the necessary stiffer springs as recommended by MrB on the Subaru forum.

Thankfully the Xenon height sensor is nowhere near the shock absorber, though if the car sits slightly higher at the back (possible as the leaking self leveller won't have been doing its job efficiently) then i might have to adjust the length of the sensor.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - corax
What kit do you use Corax? i've bought KYB shocks and the necessary stiffer springs as recommended by MrB on the Subaru forum.

What kit did I use you mean, I sold the car over 3 years ago.

Exactly the same on recommendation of Mr B, a very helpful guy regarding Foresters. I think the original self levelling units were around £500 each.

You should find the KYB's pretty similar to the originals, no nasty surprises.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - gordonbennet

What kit did I use you mean, I sold the car over 3 years ago.

Exactly the same on recommendation of Mr B, a very helpful guy regarding Foresters. I think the original self levelling units were around £500 each.

You should find the KYB's pretty similar to the originals, no nasty surprises.

Thats good to know.

Cost doesn't surprise me, Volvo 7 and 9 series estate Boge self levellers were very expensive circa £350 each rings a bell which was a lot of dosh then, luckily i managed to find a pair of new ones on a wreck back when we used to be allowed to prowl breakers yards, the chap obviously didn't know the difference between standard shocks and self levellers because he charged me something like £20 for the pair, result, also lucky enough to find a new pair on the cut off rear end of a Renault Savanna which did me a turn when i had one of those.

Feel sorry for the youngsters in some ways they'll never know the joys of exploring breakers yards, real excitement when you found £££worth of good parts and the chap charged you a tenner, it was the only way young working class chaps and families could keep a car going without reverting to the never never (my dads would have had a fit if we borrowed for anything other than to buy the roof over our heads), having a garage work on your car was almost unheard of.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - Steveieb

GB do you remember Charlie Perkins at Cohens Yard at Kettering?

Spent many enjoyable hours in there . Struck lucky with a Honda Accord fuel pump and Espace headlamp but bought lots of parts just in case and sold the car before o used them.

The other useful tactic was to do a trial run in removing door panels etc before attempting the job on your own car.

But at closing Charlie simply locked the gate and left . So who know how many diy customers were left under cars !

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - gordonbennet

GB do you remember Charlie Perkins at Cohens Yard at Kettering?

Superb yard that, there were lots of yards in the county back then, never found the ones at Northampton to be much cop but between Welly ( 2 yards), Kettering Irthlingborough (Jupps) and Old Weston the chances were we could find whatever we needed.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - Metropolis.
GB it is still possible to explore sc*** yards, and I agree it is a real joy!
Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - gordonbennet
GB it is still possible to explore sc*** yards, and I agree it is a real joy!

Really? i thought it was all internet based these days, not decrying internet, when you have a rare model its a must, managed to drop something and smash a rear light unit on the Forester a few years ago, managed to get the unit for £23 but from an older model so i transferred all the slightly modified wiring over, easy because its screwed into place on the back of the unit...those old fashioned assembly methods are what keep me preferring cars made in Japan.

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - madf

Our 2003 Yaris D4D is kept going cheaply with ebay parts.. eg heater hedgehog resistor burned out due to blocked filter (my bad). New about £30. Ebay £10.

Not that it needs much.. Drop link bushes are every 4 years .. but new of course..

I used to sc***yard rummage in Scotland as a student to keep my Austin A30 and then Rover 75 alive.. Exhausts a few £s would last a couple of years... the life of the car! I disliked the ones with alsatians on chains at the gate: they used to hide in the kennels, wait till you came in reach and then scare you to death by leaping on you. Got scars to prove it..

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - corax
I used to sc***yard rummage in Scotland as a student to keep my Austin A30 and then Rover 75 alive.. Exhausts a few £s would last a couple of years... the life of the car! I disliked the ones with alsatians on chains at the gate: they used to hide in the kennels, wait till you came in reach and then scare you to death by leaping on you. Got scars to prove it..

:-)

I have had similar. There used to be a sc***yard for Rovers near me. I turned up and couldn't find anyone to ask about parts. There was a house nearby where I thought the owner might be living. Halfway up the path, a doberman launched itself out of a kennel (it had been totally quiet up until now), and snapped to the end of it's chain before it got to me, barking ferociously. Decided to retreat and have another look for the owner in the sc***yard, who finally appeared.

"You didn't go to the house did you? Be very careful of the dog"

Now you tell me...

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - Steveieb

Surprised that we all survived the experience.

Remember seeing one customer so desperate to retrieve a part for his Bedford Rascal that he climbed up nine stacked cars and then unbolted the part.

The whole stack was wobbling just like the event in Spain where the locals form a human stack crowned by a small child !

Tesla x - Tesla parts expensive? - bathtub tom

I've been getting the head off an Austin Devon that's on top of another car before now. Had to chip the ice off first. Now I don't wash the car unless the temperature's in double figures.