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I got a couple of Maxxis MA-P1.for 800 NT each (about 20 quid)
One of them has ECC 0717 (irritatingly, on the inside as mounted, probably NOT a coincidence) which I think means its 2.8 years old, with 72% of a nominal 10 year life span left, which is OK-ish
The other has ECC 1015, which I think means its 3.9 years old, with 61% of a nominal 10 year life span left, which is not so good.
Both have about 60% of the legal tread left, measured with a cheapo plastic vernier caliper for the 4 circumferential grooves at the 4 bolt holes, so 16 measurements.
Calculating the residual value against an ebay new price of 1800NT, and averaging it for lifespan and tread, (I now have a mildly complex spreadsheet) it seems the used discount on that is about 30%.
Not great. I was hoping for 50%, but I wasn't really in a position to haggle. Still likely to outlast the car and/(or me, here at least.
Less tread for a lower price would probably have madei sense, and I might try for that if/when I replace the other tyres
My impression is that the UK is cheaper, perhaps because there's less competition here because Taiwanese don't generally buy used stuff, and are generally clueless.
Edited by edlithgow on 03/12/2019 at 13:35
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Mistako.
Ebay price (found by GF who can search in Chinese) was 1500NT,( though that doesn't include mount and balance.)
So the used discount on the calculated residual value works out at about 16%, which seems poor.
Will have to try and haggle next time
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Oops
Someone found a new price of 1200 on't nyet. Ad might as well be in Chinese, because it was, so extras/location unkown, but that would be a better deal for most people.
Objectively its probably not a better deal for me, but they do make the used ones overpriced, since the used discount on the residual calculated value is now -5%.
Will have to try and haggle next time, but taking the measurements and reading the codes takes a while. Might be more practical IF I could find a scrappie that'd let me wander around, as in days of yore in the yook.
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as in days of yore in the yook.
No good talking medieval language, no idea what you mean. or on't nyet its called the internet last time I looked assuming thats what you meant, but could be wrong ;)
are there many scrap yards out there or only a few?
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I think he means the UK.
Or possibly Prince Andrew - the Yook of Dork.
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as in days of yore in the yook.
No good talking medieval language, no idea what you mean. or on't nyet its called the internet last time I looked assuming thats what you meant, but could be wrong ;)
are there many scrap yards out there or only a few?
Most scrapyards now have parts stacked on racks/shelves, not many let you wander around looking for what you want.
I suspect this is a result of 'elf and safety' rules and fear of lawsuits if you were to break a fingernail (or worse) taking parts off.
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as in days of yore in the yook.
No good talking medieval language, no idea what you mean. or on't nyet its called the internet last time I looked assuming thats what you meant, but could be wrong ;)
are there many scrap yards out there or only a few?
Most scrapyards now have parts stacked on racks/shelves, not many let you wander around looking for what you want.
I suspect this is a result of 'elf and safety' rules and fear of lawsuits if you were to break a fingernail (or worse) taking parts off.
That was my impression, and was probably the case before I left about 15 years ago. It probably increases profit margins too, since I'd guess its more expensive than pick n pull.
I spent quite a few days of yore in scrapyards in The Yook (should really be capitalised if we are being picky) but those days of yore were probably about 30 years ago, mostly in Yorkshire.
Here HnS is likely not much of a concern for scrappies as a rule, but they will never deal with the public directly, there being absolutely no direct public demand for parts, since there is absolutely no DIY, apart from me.
So they probably wouldnt be willing to allow it.
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I spent quite a few days of yore in scrapyards in The Yook (should really be capitalised if we are being picky) but those days of yore were probably about 30 years ago, mostly in Yorkshire.
Ed, It seems the traditional Yorkshire philosophy of "HOW much?" when buying has stayed with you after all these years.
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I spent quite a few days of yore in scrapyards in The Yook (should really be capitalised if we are being picky) but those days of yore were probably about 30 years ago, mostly in Yorkshire.
Ed, It seems the traditional Yorkshire philosophy of "HOW much?" when buying has stayed with you after all these years.
Think that should be "Ow much!?"", partly because of the accent, but mostly because of the pain.
I remember saying exactly that to a scrappy near Leeds who had quoted us a price for a Triump 1300 tranny (which also formed the sump bottom for the engine, a heavy combo) then more than doubled it when we got them separated. If we'd have walked away I suppose he'd have then had a more saleable unit, so he wasn't bothered.
We paid up.
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as in days of yore in the yook.
No good talking medieval language, no idea what you mean. or on't nyet its called the internet last time I looked assuming thats what you meant, but could be wrong ;)
are there many scrap yards out there or only a few?
Most scrapyards now have parts stacked on racks/shelves, not many let you wander around looking for what you want.
I suspect this is a result of 'elf and safety' rules and fear of lawsuits if you were to break a fingernail (or worse) taking parts off.
yes taking parts was the norm for some, and probably why they stripped the car themselves, most did a good job, one advantage was, because they stripped and tested parts you got a 14day warranty on parts but paid for the labour on top, though included in parts price
Kept a few in work though, not many left around my way now, all sold and built on now after ground cleanups
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as in days of yore in the yook.
No good talking medieval language, no idea what you mean. or on't nyet its called the internet last time I looked assuming thats what you meant, but could be wrong ;)
are there many scrap yards out there or only a few?
Most scrapyards now have parts stacked on racks/shelves, not many let you wander around looking for what you want.
I suspect this is a result of 'elf and safety' rules and fear of lawsuits if you were to break a fingernail (or worse) taking parts off.
yes taking parts was the norm for some, and probably why they stripped the car themselves, most did a good job, one advantage was, because they stripped and tested parts you got a 14day warranty on parts but paid for the labour on top, though included in parts price
Kept a few in work though, not many left around my way now, all sold and built on now after ground cleanups
So what happens to scrapped cars? They can't just go straight to the smelter, surely?
IF this was the case it'd imply low demand for parts, which would in turn imply/confirm that cars aren't fixed so much now, which would be bad environmentally..
This tended to be the case with low-demand cars even in those days of yore. LADA's were more fixable than most, but also more despised than most, so it was quite hard to find one (especially a Mk1) in a scrappy, though they were being scrapped on a large scale.
Edited by edlithgow on 10/12/2019 at 06:03
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So what happens to scrapped cars? They can't just go straight to the smelter, surely?
No they have to be totally stripped at large dismantlers yards around London, just another name for scrapyards really, not many left, everything is stripped to the shell and sent for crushing, then sent to port where a large hammer machine breaks the lot into small pieces which are then loaded onto large ships and taken abroad for smelting
parts are sold by the dismantlers after testing usually....at least they used to no idea now though!
the fluid is sold for recycling
as for fuel you can probably guess
WBAC are good at buying near scrap cars, often pay more than scrappys pay, or used to?
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There is a big dismantlers at Doncaster where I went for a part for a son's car, they have a huge warehouse with 3-high racking full of engines/gearboxes, a yard full of cars awaiting stripping, you place your order at the counter and in due course an order picker turns up in a little electric truck with your part and others for waiting customers.
A far cry from the old days of climbing among precariously balanced cars with your toolbox in hand.
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There is a big dismantlers at Doncaster where I went for a part for a son's car, they have a huge warehouse with 3-high racking full of engines/gearboxes, a yard full of cars awaiting stripping, you place your order at the counter and in due course an order picker turns up in a little electric truck with your part and others for waiting customers.
A far cry from the old days of climbing among precariously balanced cars with your toolbox in hand.
You can order parts from these dismantlers and they have been doing this for years, (Just Google it)order what you want and they search for the parts you need, if they find it they quote a price including shipping and send to you or the garage you want to do the work
personally I found them to be almost as expensive as buying the parts new, but others could find them cheaper and find a part quicker that way than ebay can. (sometimes)
Only one reason for taking toolbox in and it wasn't to hold tools ;)
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A far cry from the old days of climbing among precariously balanced cars with your toolbox in hand.
With some nutter driving too fast on a forklift passing within inches of the stack and hasn't noticed you. Ah, the old days.
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Spent many a happy if mucky hour rooting about in scrap yards, found some gems of parts for my cars, ie a near enough brand new set of self levelling rear shocks for my Volvo 9 series estate, these were a staggering cost at the Volvo dealer and no cheaper via factors being Boge were the only supplier anyway.
Son had an E28 5 Series for a while, found a gem of one in the local scappy so got an armful of useful parts as well as what he needed, charged me about £20 the lot for what would easily have been well into 4 figures at the dealer, sadly that superb scrappy is now yet another industrial estate with its own set of traffic lights which will cause even more misery on the already walking pace if you're lucky 2 lane A43 in mid Northants.
Ebay is your friend now for used parts, just keep a regular eye open on the ads when you know something needs replacing, i recently managed to smash a rear light casing on the Forester, didn't even bother asking the dealer parts desk, lots of scrappers trying to charge £50 or more, after a couple of weeks a scrapper in Dumfries had a Foz in, complete lamp unit for £23 incl postage there in two days flat, you need to shop about and not be in a hurry.
I've tried those request online forms before for used parts which are supposed to go out to all scrappers, or rather presumably those who subscribe, never had any joy whatsoever so won't bother again.
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