Any - Buildings & contents insurance - nick62

Just had my renewal for my buildings & contents insurance.

I've been with the same company for a long as I can remember (10+ years) and always "have a go" at them every year when the premium goes up. This has usually resulted in a "discount" of some sort. They are a well known company and in fairness have no silly clauses (I have several mature trees close to the house within my boundary for instance). Last year I upped my excess to get the cost down to an acceptable price, but the new quote has gone up by 31% (£656 to £858 including Ken Clarke's £92 IPT). This is despite me never having claimed, ever.

The letter apologises for the increase and even though I have never claimed, it states it is due to the unprecedented pay-outs for burst pipes and water damage.

Almost makes me wonder if it's worth the bother!

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - Falkirk Bairn

Same thing happened to me - car premium up 60% after being with Esure 15 years and not claiming, apart from 1 x glass - moved to Aviva as they were about the same as I had been paying.

Been with Aviva nearly 2 years.

1 month later House Insurance leapt by 50%+, again Esure - so I moved to Legal & General - paid significantly less for "more cover". Again coming up for 2 years and still paying the same as I did back in 2012 or thereabouts.

My son has had a similar experience to you with house & contents - 2 months back £400 / yr upped to nearly £600. He is now back with Esure having left them 2 years ago when they played silly beggars. IIRC he now pays Esure £320 - £340 ish.

He has now left Aviva for his car insurance as it went up markedly - now Direct Line IIRC

It pays to shop around. Tips on MSE for comparison sites & haggling. My Sky would have been £120 TV & BB now but after cancelling they came back 10 days later, dropped Cinema (£12) and now paying £67 inc Sky Sports, an additional SkyQ box & 4K for the football!

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - concrete

I think the experience that Nick describes is quite common. For years I was with LV for car and house. Then they went silly and I changed to Tesco, who were very good for a couple of years, then they went silly. Back to LV which is very competitive and just renewed the house insurance with them. I think we all are aware enough to trawl the internet for a decent quote from a decent company, but it now seems essential to do that or be taken for a loyal fool. My house hold insurance is a fraction of Nicks' at approx £100 for buildings and contents. We now only inhabit a small house, 3 bedrooms etc etc fairly box standard construction. Excess is £200 mandatory and £100 voluntary but we do not have accidental damage cover or any other frills. Even our old house with 5 bedrooms, double garage, large gardens with trees was only a couple of hundred in total. £600 plus seems excessive, although you may have a house that would be very expensive to rebuild it still seems a high premium.

Cheers Concrete

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - sammy1

Must be living in Buckingham Palace to pay that money. have you tried compare the meerkats!

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - nick62

Must be living in Buckingham Palace to pay that money. have you tried compare the meerkats!

Generous Victorian semi (semi's are usually cost more than a detached due to possibility of collateral damage IMOE), large mature trees close to house within boundary, large city postcode and conservation area. It couldn't be worse really (unless it was London)?

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - concrete

Must be living in Buckingham Palace to pay that money. have you tried compare the meerkats!

Generous Victorian semi (semi's are usually cost more than a detached due to possibility of collateral damage IMOE), large mature trees close to house within boundary, large city postcode and conservation area. It couldn't be worse really (unless it was London)?

Sounds like my old place when the kids were growing up. Victorian terrace of five houses.12" skirting boards, internal doors thicker than most new external doors etc etc. We had trees within the boundary. The nearest big tree was 40 feet away which seemed to satisfy them. Still only paid a couple of hundred all in. A good trawl around could save you the price of a hundred pints!! Worth considering.

Good luck Concrete

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - nick62

Just got alternative cover via John Lewis (the same as the store) for £485, (so I've saved more than £370).

As far as I can see the cover is virtually identical, except I have reduced my excess liability by 50% (from £1,000 to £500) which is a bonus.

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - nick62

My travel insurance company is at it now.

Renewal for annual cover up more than 34% (was £158, renewal cost £213).

I know IPT was increased to 20% on taxable travel insurance, but that was in 2011. Nice stealth tax when it was 2.5% at introduction.

I'm sure they have a cartel.

Edited by nick62 on 20/06/2019 at 13:10

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - nick62

Well, well, here we are again, doesn't time fly.

John Lewis got the boot last year (2020) for the usual massive second year premium hike and I ended-up with Halifax and the cover is good. Second year renewal though is a 27% increase! Just called them up and they've offered to discount such that it's almost 8% less than last year, so for cover last year at a cost of £376, the renewal was £478, but a 2 minute phone call has reduced that to £349.

The insurance industry is a shambles.

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - Engineer Andy

Well, well, here we are again, doesn't time fly.

John Lewis got the boot last year (2020) for the usual massive second year premium hike and I ended-up with Halifax and the cover is good. Second year renewal though is a 27% increase! Just called them up and they've offered to discount such that it's almost 8% less than last year, so for cover last year at a cost of £376, the renewal was £478, but a 2 minute phone call has reduced that to £349.

The insurance industry is a shambles.

The problem is that unless you change insurer practically every year (at least every three) for each policy (car, breakdown, home, other), they believe that any 'threats' to leave are just the proverbial boy crying 'wolf!'

I'm in a similar circumstance with my home contents insurer (I don't pay buildings insurance directly as I live in a flat and it's paid via the annual service charge), whom I've been with for about 5-6 years now. Not the end of the world in monetary terms (£25) but is in percentage terms. I managed to get them to take £10 off this time around. This probably means I'll have to go elsewhere next year.

I found the same (getting harder to get any over-the-phone discount after the premium goes up despite no policy change and no claims) for my car insurance up until just over a year ago, and last year they jacked the price up by another 10%.

I used a screenscraper and changed to a well-known insurer and saved myself around £100 for the same cover. I've stuck with them at last month's renewal as they reduced the premium by 10%+ compared to last year and were in the top three quote prices (only beaten by a few £).

Insurers will only change their ways if people vote with their wallents en-masse, just like any other business - including car manufacturers. Amazing how many people complain about certain brands, and yet they have queues of people, both existing and new, just waiting to buy a new shiny model and a premium price just because it's fashionable to do so.

More fool them.

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - skidpan

Our insurance had changed little since moving here in late 2016. This year it dropped by 10%.

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - concrete

I read recently that it will be illegal to offer cheaper insurance to new customers while fleecing the loyal ones. I dare say their answer will be to charge everyone the highest price and take the risk of losing some. The trouble is if they all do it we have nowhere to go. The law of unintended consequences kicks in again. Twas ever thus. Better get used to the notion that we are simply targets to be taken advantage of.

Cheers Concrete

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - nick62

................... and here we are again. Just had the Halifax reminder, £349.92 last year, renewal a whopping £553.12 (>58%), madness.

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - Andrew-T

................... and here we are again. Just had the Halifax reminder, £349.92 last year, renewal a whopping £553.12 (>58%), madness.

You just need to get on the phone.

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - SLO76
£858!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’ve a 4 bed detached house and I pay less than £200 P/A. I always shop around if it goes up by anything more than inflation. Yes houses in Scotland are generally worth less but unless your home is in the multi-million pound range you’re overpaying.
Any - Buildings & contents insurance - nick62
£858!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was in 2019.

One of the joys of a Liverpool postcode!

It was also Hiscox, who did lose a shed load of customers at this time over their price hikes.

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - daveyjp

Hiscox are genrally considered gold standard and gold isn't cheap.

I would also advise anyone to get an up to date cost for rebuild. Building costs have gone up signifcantly in the last 2 years.

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - Engineer Andy

Hiscox are genrally considered gold standard and gold isn't cheap.

I would also advise anyone to get an up to date cost for rebuild. Building costs have gone up signifcantly in the last 2 years.

According to my housing development's property manager, homes should generally (flat blocks included) should have revaluations every 10 years minimum, preferably 5 years to take changes in rebuild costs. And that's with the insurer upping the 'value' by an 'inflationary' figure each year.

Our resulted in the flats' buildings insurance (part of our annual service charge) doubling for the existing provider, but luckily he managed to find a good alternative where the cost only went up by 15% (sounds bad but for the past 5 years or so it had remained about the same).

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - Ethan Edwards

Reading this thread made me anxious. So I got a quote. Current cost 150 quid. Quote was surprisingly good. 82quid. 1m building 50k contents. Pays to live in a small house !

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - nick62

Renewed for £277 with the same cover (with Aviva)!

What a lottery, I suppose I'll be back with my existing insurers in a couple of years?

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - Engineer Andy

Indeed - insurance companies (like Utility companies, before the current shennanigans) rely on people who cannot be bothered to change provider for the majority of their profits.

It doesn't mean we should should necessarily change each year (especially as the quality of service is difficult to quantify without actually claiming at some point), but still, with a bit of luck and useful advice from others who have had experience of claims we can often make a reasonable judgement on value for money.

Oddly enough after esure kept upping my car insurance for 3 years straight (no claims generally since 1999) and me dumping them for Quote Me Happy for the next 2 years, esure suddenly dropped their quotes for 2022-23 on the screen scraper sites (no 'extra' offers to skew the result) and was within £20 of my renewal quote from QHM, which I still went for, far less than the difference the previous two years.

It'll be interesting to see whether they drop their quote any more next year. I wouldn't be surprised if your original provider eventually 'gets the message' and drops their quotes within 2-3 years.

The only time I think they wouldn't is if your personal circumstances changed, e.g. moving home to a 'higher risk' area, added something new onto the house policy or more likely turning 70/75 (whatever the 'being old' age is for them) - for some insurers, they don't like insuring certain groups of people becasue they believe they are a higher risk.

I had my dad on my car policy as a named driver just for emergenecies (in case I was not able to drive it home) and when he turned 75, the premium jumped by about 10%. I now have my sister on as the named driver instead.

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - _

Just got our renewal (LV) down fron £112 to £91. accepted..

Also car insurance with LV.

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - MarcMM

Hi all, I'm new here... Hopeful for a bit of direction...

My father passed away recently and I now have his home which I've allowed

His granddaughter to move into, she's not paying rent or any other bill

At the moment and won't be going forward... I need to get building insurance

But due to the fact I don't live in the house, it's not a rental or holiday home

And I own another house which is my primary residence... None of the standard

Insurance policies quite fit. Has anyone ever come across this type of setup?

Any advice welcome,

Thanks,

Marc

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - Chris M

Are you the sole beneficiary of his Will, i.e. will the house be yours when the will is sorted? It's the beneficiaries who have the insurable interest and should insure it in their name. Possibly difficult getting an answer from an insurance company call centre, but a broker will know where to go. It must be an everyday situation. Or approach his current insurer to see if they can help.

Edited by Chris M on 13/02/2024 at 08:43

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - MarcMM

Thanks for that. Appreciated

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - nick62

Its that time of year again.

Aviva renewal up 46%. Time to go shopping!

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - Heidfirst

Try Prvilege (part of Direct Line Group).

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - nick62

Try Prvilege (part of Direct Line Group).

Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately they wanted £1,027 for equivalent cover, (more than double the renewal, and nearly 3x last years premium).

Are we all being mugged?

Edited by nick62 on 15/04/2024 at 16:26

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - Terry W

4 bed detached in goodish area - just been quoted £258 vs £290 last year with Direct Line.

This is the first renewal having moved last year - it may be they leave it 3 or 4 years before trying it on with renewal premiums.

Otherwise price increases all seem very erratic - it is difficult to believe that costs in some areas have increased by 40%+ yet gone down in others by 10%.

Any - Buildings & contents insurance - Orb>>

Last month renewed my landlord policy for the 1 bed flat that is rented out .

Have used simply business for 8 years, phoned, Premium DROPPED from £230 to £97 . They are a specialist broker and administer all the claims process themselves.

Whoopee!