Any - Renault - barney100

I've never had a Renault but I know a few who have ranging from very old to quite new and they don't seem to be outstandingly troublesome. Is the Renault reputation for low quality warranted?

Any - Renault - gordonbennet

They went through a phase in the noughties especially of producing too complicated by half cars, but then they weren't alone in having a bad spell, and German maker's own results of thinking themselves too clever by half to make a mistake are still materialising, just a decade or so later, but ignored my many motoring journalists (not here noted) and seemingly by the buying public who can't invest in DSG's and timing chains of cheese fast enough...insert face palm here.

Half of Renaults problems was that stupid credit card key, a fragile and temperamental thing that cos a lot to fix when the system went on the blink, and early adoption of pointless toys like tyre pressure monitoring...that alone kept half the renters out of action at the time i was involved in rentals, plus being a pioneer of the biggest folly of the last 20 years, the electric parking brake from hell....note here how Toyota/Subaru/Honda were late adopters of such things, and note how their reputations as used cars differ, the big difference is Japanese electrics are better than the others..

Laguna 1 was a fine car, hampered due to lack of electronics, they badly needed ABS which wasn't fitted to many and were prone to locking the front wheels on the slightest damp patch, so loads of them had front end crash damage, with Lag 2 they went completely overboard with the toys, presumably untested on Britains annual salt bath roads.

If you ran older Renaults, and i had a Diesel 21 Savannah estate which never gave any issues, they were superb cars, soft sprung and comfy seats but could hold the road and keep up on the twisties with any concrete sprung pretend hot hatch, and i think if you bought from about 2009 onwards, you will get a car every bit as reliable as most from the mainstream makers, cheap too because the previous generation models were the troublesome ones which ruined their reputation.

I'd quite happily buy a Laguna 3 (especially if it wasn't such an ugly brute, though estate looks prettier), cheap as chips because Lag 2 reputation infects.

People say they don't stand the test of time, but then if you risked keeping half the German cars made at the same point in time as long you'd have some seriously eye watering bills to keep them going, especially when that white elephant DSG spits its dummy out, or one of the faulted engines from the same mob rushed out decided to rattle its balance shaft to pieces or the buried inaccessible EGR fails or whatever else their list of fragile motors usually fails on.

The more upmarket German marque made some right ropey stuff in the noughties too, that rotted before your very eyes, and some of their later designs have problems the dealers seem to ignore, but they were soon forgiven by the (who? motoring press or buyers?), Renault not forgiven, not high enough image presumabl or is it simply a case of German = good quality, French = not?.

Alfas are forgiven for being a pita, because apparently they look the part and image sells no matter how short it's life might be, well they don't look the part to me but then i think Landcruisers and Hino trucks are good looking as well as reliable durable vehicles :-)

Much of the problem of modern cars isn't the cars themselves its how they are driven, and how they are simultaneously abused and neglected by so many owners who can't even be bothered to check the oil level now and again, let alone think about helping clean off salt ingress into the over-complicated underbellies of modern cars... simpler cars last and the more complicated generally don't unless they are valuable enough to be kept well maintained by the well heeled.

Any - Renault - barney100

This seems to sum up the issue very well. I have a mate with a 2002 Renault petrol Scenic and it's not bad. Drinks fuel a bit but is reliable and BIL has a 2015 Scenic diesel which has been no bother but does few miles. Another has a Laguna which seemed ok. Reason for the post is BIL may go down to one car and offer me the Scenic..1.5 D and if it comes about I may take a punt.

Any - Renault - retgwte

you may as well buy a dacia

same car but cheaper

Any - Renault - daveyK_UK
Agree with the Dacia comment
Any - Renault - SLO76
The Dacia would be more reliable. It’s based mostly on previous gen Renault tech which has mostly had any faults ironed out. Yes the trim should a bit fragile and rattles are almost guaranteed but you can forgive it for the bargain bucket price. Renault however is dearer and more likely to drive you mad.
Any - Renault - retgwte

proper keys on the dacia too, not the renault keyless entry which goes wrong repeatedly leaving you unable to get into your own car

Any - Renault - gordonbennet

proper keys on the dacia too, not the renault keyless entry which goes wrong repeatedly leaving you unable to get into your own car

Don't Renaults still come with a door key built into the credit card or whatever the latest models use? that can be slid into the hidden slot in one of the front door handles? These had to be used regularly to get into Renaults during transportation, because the alarms were often going all the time in transit and flat batteries very common.

This is or was a an issue with other cars too, a hidden key slot inside one of the door handles, but on some you had to unclip the door handle cover to reveal it and i suspect unless lubed and used now and again would probably be seized solid by the time it was needed.

Any - Renault - Ian_SW

The brand new Captur I had as a hire car the other day looked like it had exactly the same type of "key card" I remember using on a Laguna about 10 years ago. I didn't need to get the emergency key out fortunately, but I think it was there.

In the Renault's favour, there was a slot in which to put this key card, they still have the really good radio controls on the side of the steering column, and it had a real handbrake. However, in every other respect, the i30 I'd had the week before was better. The i30 was quicker, used less fuel, didn't bounce around as much at speed, had more comfortable seats, and a (marginally) better satnav/radio/tv thingy.

Any - Renault - retgwte

same radio controls and handbrake on dacia :)

Any - Renault - John F

proper keys on the dacia too, not the renault keyless entry which goes wrong repeatedly leaving you unable to get into your own car

A good example of a design designed to boost the Renault garage's income.

This is or was a an issue with other cars too, a hidden key slot inside one of the door handles, but on some you had to unclip the door handle cover to reveal it and i suspect unless lubed and used now and again would probably be seized solid by the time it was needed.

Thanks for the reminder. Although my old flagship Audi recognizes not only its electronic key but also my fingerprint (once inside), there is a proper (hopefully) functioning mechanical lock in the door and the steering column. Must check.

Any - Renault - gordonbennet
Thanks for the reminder. Although my old flagship Audi recognizes not only its electronic key but also my fingerprint (once inside), there is a proper (hopefully) functioning mechanical lock in the door and the steering column. Must check.

Car knows your fingerprints?, ye gods, ahm oot !

very easy to forget to lube locks, doubly easy to forget when they're hidden under trims where probably most owners don't know such a thing even exists.

Not had too much to do with Audis over the years, my lot did carry them but being as we mostly specialised in two or three makes it all depended on which was your home depot area, it made good sense to specialise not only do you know the product intimately, you knew the customers too, making the job more efficient with far less potential for problems mainly damage....until, yes you guessed it, the new suits got involved, got rid of the old guard suits and couldn't wait to fix what was never broken in the first place, two or three years later it was all going to hell in a handcart and the company was sold on for peanuts.

Edited by gordonbennet on 19/02/2019 at 14:34

Any - Renault - johnnyrev
Our Logan is coming up to 3 years old now and is doing okay. The trim looks and feels cheap but it still looks as new, there are no squeaks or rattles and isn’t falling apart (unlike our 2 year old Doblo with bits of trim falling off!).

Apart from a freak gearbox fault, nothing has gone wrong or needed replacing and with a good polish it looks as good as new. After being tempted by an old Merc, I can’t think why we won’t keep it for good while yet!
Any - Renault - badbusdriver

I have a real soft spot for the Twizy, i'd love one as a fine weather runaround!.

Any - Renault - andrew bairsto

No it does not.

With regards to the keys.

Edited by andrew bairsto on 19/02/2019 at 17:36

Any - Renault - KB.

you may as well buy a dacia

same car but cheaper

I've mentioned the Dacia Duster a few times recently here but no-one's added much to the topic so I vowed not to mention it again.

But there's no hint that they have a petrol automatic in the pipeline. I confess I'll pop down to the dealer and drive one if they ever do.

Edited by KB. on 19/02/2019 at 18:50

Any - Renault - dan86

I'm sure Dacia are fine cars but that low rent interior kustcdoesntcdo it for me. I do like a cheap car but it looks like it was lifted from a 25 year old car.

Any - Renault - badbusdriver

I'm sure Dacia are fine cars but that low rent interior kustcdoesntcdo it for me. I do like a cheap car but it looks like it was lifted from a 25 year old car.

Well that probably means Dacia's are not for you then, they'd be for people who understand that you can't have your cake and eat it. If you want an expensive looking high quality interior, then you have to buy an expensive high quality (or at least percieved high quality) car.

Any - Renault - dan86

You're right dacia isn't for me as I do like to have some features on a car it would be a boring world if we all drone Honda jazzes and dacias.

Some people like the bare minimum others like a bit of luxury in their lives.

Any - Renault - SLO76

You're right dacia isn't for me as I do like to have some features on a car it would be a boring world if we all drone Honda jazzes and dacias.

Some people like the bare minimum others like a bit of luxury in their lives.

True... plenty of other options other than Renault, Dacia or a Honda Jazz mind. Get a nice Mazda, Toyota or Honda and you’ll usually have years of pain free motoring and as many toys as you can play with.