Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - robinhood1701
Hi,

I’m thinking of changing my car, the Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel look good, and the specs sound good, but what are they like ? any like engine problems?

Edited by robinhood1701 on 15/02/2019 at 17:16

Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - FP

"any like engine problems?"

If it's a very recent example, the jury is still out.

Older Mazda diesels have a dire reputation.

Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - badbusdriver

If buying new and getting rid of before the warranty is up, fair enough.

Otherwise, a resounding NOOOOOOOOOO!

Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - SLO76
This engine has a terrible reputation for failure I’m afraid and there’s no proof the latest examples are any better. If you’re doing less than 15k p/a the petrol is a far better bet. It’s lighter, is capable of 50mpg easy enough, it also handles better without that heavy lump up front and unlike the diesel has a brilliant record for reliability.

If you absolutely must have a diesel despite all of the recent DPF related reliability woes then go for a Honda Civic 1.6 DTEC instead.
Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - robinhood1701
Thanks guys, my garage says beware, anyone know what the problem is ?
Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - FP

The problems are: excess fuel contaminating the sump oil during DPF regeneration, in some cases overfilling the sump. Also, there have been problems with the oil pumps.

Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - robinhood1701
Ok thanks, thought the mpg figures looked to good to be true, is the 2.0L petrol engine ok ?
Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - SLO76
Ok thanks, thought the mpg figures looked to good to be true, is the 2.0L petrol engine ok ?

Yup. No turbo to worry about, it’s chain driven so no timing belt. Mazda petrol motors are very robust - excluding the flawed but turbine smooth rotary units. They just lack the low speed pull of a good turbocharged engine.

Edited by SLO76 on 15/02/2019 at 22:59

Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - robinhood1701
Thanks, might have a test drive in a petrol model to compare against my ‘06 2.2 icdti Civic, I like the level of equipment you get in a Mazda, seems better than others ?
Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - robinhood1701
It seems that it’s just the early ones that have trouble, I’ve heard reports of early skyactiv soft camshafts ?
Like all diesels, if not looked after correctly, they get to dirty, but, if premium diesel is used with engine oil and filter changes at half the recommended intervals combined with regular 60mph+ runs for at least thirty minutes, and monitoring of when the dpf is regenerating,
Like this -
www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/mazda/3-2014/good/
Mazda did make the 2.2 Diesel for a few years, so they can’t be all bad, people didn’t stop buy the Focus because of the dual mass flywheel problem ?
Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - coopshere
The problem with your theory is not everyone reads reviews or forums such as this or even do any kind of research before buying. It is fair to say though that not every owner has a problem model, we only get to hear about the ones that owners do complain about.
Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - badbusdriver
It seems that it’s just the early ones that have trouble, I’ve heard reports of early skyactiv soft camshafts ? Like all diesels, if not looked after correctly, they get to dirty, but, if premium diesel is used with engine oil and filter changes at half the recommended intervals combined with regular 60mph+ runs for at least thirty minutes, and monitoring of when the dpf is regenerating, Like this - www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/mazda/3-2014/good/ Mazda did make the 2.2 Diesel for a few years, so they can’t be all bad, people didn’t stop buy the Focus because of the dual mass flywheel problem ?

No they probably are not all bad (same as the Ford 1.0 ecoboost). Personally i wouldn't go near one in case mine turned out to be one of those many bad ones. You came on here asking for advice and were given it (to not buy one). Now, inexplicably, you are back arguing the case for the Mazda and i'm not really sure why?.

Up to you what you buy mate, you can lead a horse to water etc......

Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - gordonbennet

Indeed, personally i'd rather not risk one of these, and the maker (like so many others) hasn't exactly covered itself in glory with looking after its customers when issues have arisen out of warranty, behaviour i'd rather not endorse by buying into even if used.

Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - Engineer Andy

If you're not buying brand new, keeping it for under 3 years (warranty length) and doing regular long-distance driving, it's not worth the risk. Don't forget that if you switch off the car whilst it is actively regenerating the DPF, then those problems mentioned will occur EVERY TIME. Don't forget that the aftermarket DPF cleaning methods don't always work, sometimes meaning the unit has to be replaced.

People concentrate far too much on the mpg benefit of modern DPF-equipped diesels but not enough on the poor reliability compared to petrols of the same era. if you do mainly short trips from cold, the mpg benefits will be miniscule, but the risk of regular DPF cleaning is high, and the risk of a major issue costing £0000s is also quite reasonable, easily wiping out any mpg gains even for someone doing 10k - 20k miles.

It's a different story if you tow (e.g. a caravan or heavy trailer) regularly, but if I were you, best to go for a petrol engined car (not necessairly a Mazda [and this is coming from a Mazda car onwer of 13 years]) if you don't need (say) an automatic and are doing under 20k miles pa.

Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - robinhood1701
Thanks Andy, sound advice ??
Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.2 Diesel - What are they like ? Thinking of buying? - Avant

No need for question marks: coming from Andy, it will be sound advice.

In his second para he sets out very clearly the risks of buying a used diesel car.

Edited by Avant on 04/03/2019 at 23:01